I do wonder if May will face any backlash from voters. People seem pretty burnt out on politics.
And it all took was for them to get everything they ever wanted.
And it all took was for them to get everything they ever wanted.
Theresa May Statement: June 8th General Election requested
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Goldfishking
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Just Registered.
My vote probably won't make much of a difference but it'll matter even less if I dont vote.
Yeah, but the percentages are different.
No need. They know they have no control over this election. Farage is better spent in the US.
You're supposed to be the one who talks me out of my doomsday scenarios
Seriously guys, Vote, even if you already think whoever your voting for will win, that sort of thinking have lost elections.
It's good to know that I wasn't the only one that saw that when she said that exact line, it couldn't have sounded more ruler of the galaxy.
It's good to know that I wasn't the only one that saw that when she said that exact line, it couldn't have sounded more ruler of the galaxy.
Herr Schwarz
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Sigh Theresa. There are no fucking rival parties that can take you on.
No rival party outside of Tory that could champion Brexit. It's shitty UKIP ideology.
So just announce brexit won't happen because it's s bad idea. Be a leader. Not asthough you're gonna lose power.
No rival party outside of Tory that could champion Brexit. It's shitty UKIP ideology.
So just announce brexit won't happen because it's s bad idea. Be a leader. Not asthough you're gonna lose power.
Where is Nuttall running, Stoke?
Do UKIP even have the funds to stand in say 200 plus seats?
Putting this directly after the Local elections is doubly duplicitous for the Tories, they're the only ones bankrolled enough to be able to afford to go hard for both (and most the Local election spending is baked in now)
Why? The party with all the Leaver nutsos is leading in all the polls.
The people who abstained from voting in the EU referendum are the reason BREXIT is happening.
You have the right to VOTE and you should use it.
CyclopsRock
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Ashcroft's released some polling the other week that showed most people don't know who Farron is, those who did don't like him and they don't even know the LDs stance on the EU.
The lib Dems are fucked. Labour are even more fucked. Their lunch is being eaten from both sides. Corbyn has somehow turned the Tories great Achilles Heel into Labours biggest weakness, united the right behind the Tories and they have leadership with its head in the sand. The only question is over/under 100 majority.
The future is blue!
The lib Dems are fucked. Labour are even more fucked. Their lunch is being eaten from both sides. Corbyn has somehow turned the Tories great Achilles Heel into Labours biggest weakness, united the right behind the Tories and they have leadership with its head in the sand. The only question is over/under 100 majority.
The future is blue!
MrMysterio
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Wow, clever power grab right there - quite surprised she actually pretty much straight-up said it is exactly that.
Anti-Brexit people now need to decide which party to jump on VERY pragmatically and it looks like the Lib Dems are the party for that, if you live in England.
Anti-Brexit people now need to decide which party to jump on VERY pragmatically and it looks like the Lib Dems are the party for that, if you live in England.
Daffy Duck
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Yeah, they've just said as much on Sky News.
She said no election until 2020, then here we are.
About the only silver lining I could imagine from a Labour wipeout is maybe then we could get all the left-wing parties to team up and push for PR.
JonnyDBrit
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You think Putin would pass up the chance to disseminate misinformation in a major European power's election? Really?
paradox121
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I'm dying to know what the turnout for this will be. Not only has it been years of constant voting that has depressed a large majority of people, but its not as if either Corbyn or May are political juggerheads that make appealing PMs.
So essentially this becomes Brexit Round 2. LibDems fight against Brexit, Tories argue for hard Brexit and a 'continuity' of leadership, and Labour shrug their shoulders and say something quietly about the NHS.
So essentially this becomes Brexit Round 2. LibDems fight against Brexit, Tories argue for hard Brexit and a 'continuity' of leadership, and Labour shrug their shoulders and say something quietly about the NHS.
I will vote LibDem, the only decent ones in this mess. I'm in a safe Tory seat, so it won't make much difference, but I hope they finish above Labour who deserve to fade away into oblivion. Let someone else become the official opposition.
The Corbynistas can go play Marxist to their hearts content
The Corbynistas can go play Marxist to their hearts content
He doesn't need to, he got brexit
The rUK flag won't have much blue in it mate.
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Last I checked, they were deeply in debt after paying back that EU fine, so I doubt it. They still lost their deposits in about a sixth of the seats they stood in for 2015, and times are much worse for them now.
Labour's finances are okay at the moment, actually. It's the Liberal Democrats under the most pressure, because my understanding is they'd gone to break the bank on the locals already to raise profile.
Audioboxer
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Remember Labour had a red wedding in Scotland. Seats held for ages, lost. Not really to do with non-voting but an example of how things can swing. Red seats can go Blue.
Voting takes 15-30 mins out of your day. Or there is postal votes. Just do it. There's enough lazy or dumb people who don't vote ever, year on year. It's your choice but it's hardly something to celebrate if you don't use what little power you have as an individual.
Voting takes 15-30 mins out of your day. Or there is postal votes. Just do it. There's enough lazy or dumb people who don't vote ever, year on year. It's your choice but it's hardly something to celebrate if you don't use what little power you have as an individual.
But why she can't just step down in 2020 if she wants to avoid taking the blame? I don't understand how calling a GE now helps her to avoid the fallout from Brexit.
Labour campaigning on the NHS is (in the words of a very senior labour person I am good friends with) a sure sign they are losing. It's the fail safe position when they are struggling to find a message. It also has lost a huge amount of resonance, as Cameron inoculated the tories on the NHS quite well and ongoing disaster hasn't quite sunk in yet.
Also, this is a Brexit election. That's the battleground the tories will fight on, and unless an external event happens that's how the vote will go down.
If Ashcroft's polling about Farron is true then it kills the Lib Dems pretty much stone dead, given a Clegg-style bump was about all they could hope for.
The party that actively destabilises Europe is already in power and even leading in the polls. I'm sure they are laughing their asses off whenever Davis opens his mouth. Putin LOVES the UK of today. Why change it? Unless the polls change dramatically for some reason I don't see a lot of reasons to really invest resources into this election. UK is already done.
I honestly don't see any good outcome from this. There would have to be a truly massive shift in public opinion, and I just don't see it.
I also got banned the last time I said something like that. Very poor form.
I also got banned the last time I said something like that. Very poor form.
Just going to point out its those supposed champagne socialists without ideology who are still fighting against Brexit more than anyone else on the left or right. It's the supposedly morally firm left wingers like Corbyn who are tacitly supporting Brexit and doing fuck all to stop it happening.
Lagspike_exe
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I would say that petty politics are the last thing UK needs right now. Uncertainty is already very high. Conservatives seem to be in dire straits. They made their name on nation building and now they're throwing everything down the drain to win a few more years as the lead party.
Because the negotiations for Brexit and the EU/UK relationship are taking place now, and she's realised that we're fucked whatever the outcome?
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Yeah, this election will all be about who can lead the country through Brexit. Labour is already fucked on this, because two-thirds of their current support are pro-Remain, but most of their lost voters from 2005 to the present date are pro-Leave, so they can't win either way. The NHS just isn't the hot topic at the moment.
I mean, this election is basically a foregone conclusion. The main question is just: how many seats will the Conservatives win in their majority? 100 seems a fair minimum, but could we hit 150?
openrob
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MrMysterio
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Lib Dem slogan should be "Not because you want to, but because there's no other choice".
MrS
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Read the first sentence of my post again.
autumnleaf
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Policies are one thing you but also need to be a leader which he is not.
JonnyDBrit
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Yes, and he can further screw up the electorate and shift the political spectrum of the UK to the right, to further distance it from Europe and screw up its relations there (though I suppose we don't need much help in that regard).
I suppose in some ways one small benefit from this is that, for a generation, it will be a clear affirmation of people's voting tendencies and how they relate to Brexit - they will have to own that shit. You can't just say you voted Leave but oh you were misled if you go on to vote Conservative in the 2017 General Election.
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Flintty
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Whilst this may be true, it's still not a fair example to set. People often get banned for telling people to fuck off. Or is there a special rule set for when it's appropriate that I'm not aware of?
A bold move my May but honestly, it would take a miracle for them to lose.
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