Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!

brianjones said:
Lol for real.. when that's the first thing you think of that's not a good thing

also wrt to Mantis I couldn't help but think of the born sexy yesterday trope
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???
We have no idea how old Mantis is?
Her Innocence isn't supposed to be sexy, it's just played for gags.
 
If seeing Pac-Man in a movie reminds you of Pixel and not the game Pac-Man, than that's on you and not the movie. James Gunn can't control that you watched Pixels.

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How can Mantis be sexy if she was so ugly?
 
For what it's worth the Pac-Man thing is at least consistent characterization; Ego makes the shape of a larger version of himself whereas Peter makes the shape of something he knows that puts up a fight.
 
Einchy said:
If seeing Pac-Man in a movie reminds you of Pixel and not the game Pac-Man, than that's on you and not the movie. James Gunn can't control that you watched Pixels.

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How can Mantis be sexy if she was so ugly?
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She's beautiful...
on the inside.
 
brianjones said:
Lol for real.. when that's the first thing you think of that's not a good thing

also wrt to Mantis I couldn't help but think of the born sexy yesterday trope
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That trope isn't about the girl but rather the washed out middle aged man whose purpose in life is to teach her the ways of the world with his penis.

Mantis is more Drax's surrogate daughter figure than anything else.
 
Einchy said:
Ego's ego is so fucking huge that he actually thought that was a tragic story where he was the victim. Oh I loved her so much that I had to murder her so I could focus on my work. What the fuck

Not often I hear audible gasps from a theater but that got some. Also, like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I fucking love that Peter just unloaded on him the second he heard that. Didn't even think twice.
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Classic psychopath/narcissist trait.
 
Kin5290 said:
That trope isn't about the girl but rather the washed out middle aged man whose purpose in life is to teach her the ways of the world with his penis.

Mantis is more Drax's surrogate daughter figure than anything else.
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There's enough leeway that their story could go either way to be honest.
 
Can't really rock with an opinion that thought this was worse than the first one. But, opinions.

Yondu scene at the end was powerful. Jesus.

Also, I really thought Ego was a great villain. Some people claimed he was another weak MCU one.
 
Thought this was kind of uneven, but still pretty fun.

A lot of the jokes fell flat, and some of them dragged on forever.

It was also missing much of the grimy space outlaw/pirate vibe of the first movie, despite hitting a lot of the same beats.

Yondu was great though.

And young Kurt Russell is probably the best de-aging I've seen. Although it is starting to seem a little funny that Disney is using that tech so much. In the last 2-3 years, we've had young Michael Douglas in Ant-Man, young RDJ in Civil War, young Kurt Russell in GotG Vol. 2, young Carrie Fisher in Rogue One, and young Johnny Depp in PotC: DMTNT. It's like they have a quota or something. But they keep getting better at it, so it doesn't bother me.
 
Drax absolutely killed it, and carried the comedic scenes in the movie so well. It was nice seeing more of Nebula too!
Film also made me a fan of Yondu.


Lightning strikes twice. The Director needs a raise.
 
There's tons of emotional "serious" moments in the movie that are played completely straight. The tumor reveal, Mantis and Drax on the steps, Yondu's death etc. Of course there's humour in it. If you've seen the first movie, you should know by now that these are all individuals that hide behind jokes because they can't or are afraid of relating to other people in normal ways. Hell, Yondu practically spells it out. But of course, since it's a Marvel movie people will just complain about the quips without thinking about the purpose of the humour. You guys have become parodies of yourselves with this shit.

Reizo Ryuu said:
He literally has a conversation with ego where he says he'd make a giant pac-man.
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That too! But it worked even better with the conversation he has with Yondu before.
 
For the record:
Pom Klementieff on her character said:
You mentioned that James [Gunn] is approaching this character in his own way. She has a long history in the comics. Did you look at any of that?

You're going to think that I'm crazy, but I haven't read the comic books. I wanted to and I asked James if I should and he said, "No, you don't need to." Because I knew his version was so different from the pictures and drawings that I saw ... but I remember when I had the audition, I was creating a character in my mind, in my head and reading the lines, I knew like which way I wanted it to be and it's so well written that it was a really different flavor. When I saw the pictures on the internet, I was like, What?! Really?! No!! ... I don't want the character to be, like, sexual and, like, usually they're always like that. The girls are always like — [gestures sexily] And it was different because it was different. I think we're creating something different.
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James Gunn on Drax and Mantis said:
It’s about Dave Bautista and Mantis together, who become on the one hand close friends, and then on the other hand she’s a surrogate daughter for the daughter that was murdered.
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I don't Gunn has ever intended for Drax and Mantis to be taken as romantic, especially when that notion is played for laughs during the film.
 
brianjones said:
yeah it was good

must be really weird for the actor themselves to see that

soon aging won't mean a thing in movies!
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I'm 99.99% sure Johnny Depp is getting de-aged in all his scene in the newest Pirates. In real life and in the newest Harry Potter movie he looks completely different than in the new Pirate movie, watching those trailer, you'd think he hadn't aged a day since the first one came out.
MarkMclovin said:
I don't get the Ego / Mantis relationship.

Why did she stick with him knowing what he was doing?
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Probably didn't have much of a choice. She didn't know anyone and he'd know if she tried to escape since he literally has eyes everywhere.

Also, I think she just might have not understood how bad it was until she touched Drax and learned the pain of seeing someone you love die.
 
I have seen it in theaters yesterday evening. Had some time to play the movie over and over in my head and I have come to the conclusion that the sequel is better than the first, except for one thing: the soundtrack.

The story and ultimate enemy is by far much more enjoyable. Kurt Russel played the part so well. His love for Quill's mother was huge, but his 'Ego' was by far the biggest love. The ocean kept calling for him, and it was this urge that makes him go full on evil in the end.

Drax, Yundu and Mini Groot stole the show for me. Especially Drax. The last time I laughed so much in theaters was because of Deadpool, but Drax is just on a whole other level. His interactions with Pom were the better part.

I agree that the better parts of the movie was with Yundu. Shame that they killed him off, but I guess it was necessary.

I can't wait for the 3rd one.
 
Infinite Stars said:
Am I wrong to hope that come Phase 4 we'll get Annihilation Conquest to pay off the teases made by Gunn? Getting Stallone/The OGs/Guardians/Anyone else fighting a full on Galactic menace will be aces.
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I may be wrong, but I think Annihilation is with Fox and F4. But I would've said the same thing about the Watchers before seeing this.

Choosing to believe F4 has changed hands and Marvel's holding it close to the chest until the next phase. Idc.
 
There were a few great tracks in this soundtrack, but vol 1 is easily better. In vol 1, every track was great and enhanced the scene. I hated how forced this movie felt with the music.. especially that scene where Rocket stops and asks someone to play some music.

I also hated how they kept teasing The Chain, and didn't even play the guitar solo section. It's gonna be interesting to see volume 3's soundtrack now they have 90's and 00's music to play with.
 
MarkMclovin said:
I don't get the Ego / Mantis relationship.

Why did she stick with him knowing what he was doing?
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Quoting myself from earlier in the thread.
Renpatsu said:
Edit: Tangentially related - For similar reasons why pairing Mantis with Drax is interesting I think that there is a very specific contrast being cast by having Mantis, an Empath, accompany Ego, a Celestial with a lack of empathy for mortal beings. When Mantis refers to herself early in the film as akin to being Ego's "pet" at first it feels like a joke, but it also calls into question the role she occupies among Ego and foreshadows his climactic revelation on life beyond his own. With hindsight by introducing the two characters together Mantis becomes another avenue for Gunn to subtly highlight Ego's character deficiencies.
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She sticks with Ego initially because like his 'pet' she isn't exactly in a position to exert her own agency over a Celestial. She's also been raised by him alone since being orphaned in her larvae state so it's literally a case of innocently not really knowing any better until she comes into contact with the Guardians whereupon she has a new frame of reference to compare her situation with.
 
Did they release the movie version of 'Come A Little Bit Closer' yet? I loved it when the chorus kicked in during Rocket and Yondu's rampage.
 
number11 said:
It's gonna be interesting to see volume 3's soundtrack now they have 90's and 00's music to play with.
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I can already picture Chris Pratt dancing to Diddy and Mase.
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Anyways. I'm Mary Poppins y'all.
 
Glass Rebel said:
Vol 2. is 4 months after Vol. 1 and Infinity War is 4 years after Vol. 2 so yes.
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Shit, you're right. Be trill if they just showed up to fight Thanos with Adam Warlock in tow.

ZeoVGM said:
Ego admitting that he killed Peter's mom was such a punch to the gut moment. For most of the movie, I was thinking that was where they might take the story. But the abrupt way he said it was just brutal.
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It hit so hard because he didn't even seem to give a fuck. He just dropped the bomb and thought Peter would understand, because they're both technically gods.

ZeoVGM said:
I didn't think it was possible to dislike that magical opening. My theater was laughing throughout the entire scene.
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Loved it, but I honestly was just starting to think "aight, this is running a bit long" as it ended. But outright disliking it? That was such a Guardians opening lol

Spinluck said:
I caught that too.

First thing that came to mind.

Loved the characters in this.

Can't wait to see them interact with the Avengers.

That film will totally be bloated though.
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I don't know. I feel like we keep saying this is gonna happen when a stuffed MCU movie drops, but only Age of Ultron felt so. And that was less because of the amount of characters in it and more Whedon trying to cover too many plot points.

Infinity War, thematically speaking, could be the most focused movie in the MCU.
 
I guess i'm one of the few that almost all jokes landed on me (only the Tasserface was a little overplayed but they did something cool there in the Spanish dub).

Honestly, having jokes left and right is what it makes GoTG so fresh to me. Take out that and it may as well be a new NuStar Trek movie (not saying they're bad, but we already have that, or Star Wars). I like that is just half comedy/half space adventure.
 
MugiwaraCole said:
I don't know. I feel like we keep saying this is gonna happen when a stuffed MCU movie drops, but only Age of Ultron felt so. And that was less because of the amount of characters in it and more Whedon trying to cover too many plot points.

Infinity War, thematically speaking, could be the most focused movie in the MCU.
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I just really enjoy a lot of the characters in this universe.

There are a lot of them that can help carry a film, and even more that make an excellent supporting cast. You may be right, perhaps the Russo's find a way to do it. Nearly everyone had their moment to shine in Civil War, and yet it still felt like a Cap movie at heart to me.

I think I'll keep having this doubt until I know for sure what the focus of IW will be. When I see these guys in their own movies, and the Avengers in theirs; there are just so many standouts that it's hard for me to picture them all together and fitting properly.
 
Awesome movie. Probably second favorite after Winter Solider.

Only gripe was having Peter's father be Ego. I much prefer J-son over Ego, but if I hadnt read the books I probably wouldnt care at all.
 
Was anyone else expecting an Avengers cameo when they switched over to those Earth scenes? Also, it was weird as shit seeing modern day Earth in a Guardians movie and it's gonna be even weirder seeing the Guardians on Earth for Infinity Wars.
 
Spinluck said:
I just really enjoy a lot of the characters in this universe.

There are a lot of them that can help carry a film, and even more that make an excellent supporting cast. You may be right, perhaps the Russo's find a way to do it. Nearly everyone had their moment to shine in Civil War, and yet it still felt like a Cap movie at heart to me.

I think I'll keep having this doubt until I know for sure what the focus of IW will be. When I see these guys in their own movies, and the Avengers, there's just so many standouts that it's hard for me to picture them all together.
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The bolded is why Civil War might be the best in the MCU franchise to me. It feels like the popular thing is to say Cap 3 was basically an Avengers movie, but I never felt that way about it. It's a Captain America movie featuring a huge chunk of the in-universe characters. We don't call solo books with other characters and teams appearing in them "basically a *insert team* book", it feels disingenuous to do the same with Civil War, even if Tony was basically the co-star.

Still, I have complete confidence in Infinity War not being too big for its own good where the heroes are concerned. My worry is Thanos being a center of attention. He needs to be a main character like Loki was in Avengers, not just a means to get these heroes together.
 
I really liked their take on Ego.

The eeriness surrounding him and his motivations sat well with me. I'd say he's easily one of the better MCU villains (not saying much).

Who's Starlord's actual father? And how did fans of the comic feel about MCU SL being half Celestial?
 
Spinluck said:
I really liked their take on Ego.

The eeriness surrounding him and his motivations sat well with me. I'd say he's easily one of the better MCU villains (not saying much).

Who's Starlord's actual father? And how did fans of the comic feel about MCU SL being half Celestial?
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J'son. King of the Spartax. Universal jobber.

Beats the shite Daddy stuff from Bendis.
 
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