Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!

That GAF meme "Thanos is in this" should now be "Thanos is not in this" which, funnily enough, some people would probably consider an actual spoiler for vol 2.

Speaking of which, I really appreciate that they decided to make a film with the guardians without relying on "the build up" or a macguffin. I'm also glad they cut down on hand-to-hand fight scenes because that stuff was not good in vol 1.
 

Kumquat

Member
See, what threw me was beardless Kurt. Flawless effect, but early 80s Kurt without a beard or stubble looked weird to me.

Dude. ya know what threw me is I had watched Death Proof with my girl a couple days before we went to see the movie and I wasn't even aware Kurt Russell was in it. Rocked my world! (I was on media blackout for this movie)
 
Dude
Issue 1. Peter Quill? Peter CHILL more like.

O this is some baloney

Quill was half celestial at the time

Ya but it was still doin all the blood eye stuff and his face was all fucked up just goddamnit

The scene where Mantis touches Drax while he is thinking about his kid is amazing. Drax sitting there with no outward show of emotion while Mantis emotes for him. It was really powerful.

I watched the movie again last night and this still hurt :(
 

DeathyBoy

Banned
Dude. ya know what threw me is I had watched Death Proof with my girl a couple days before we went to see the movie and I wasn't even aware Kurt Russell was in it. Rocked my world! (I was on media blackout for this movie)

Watch Hateful Eight. The career resurgence of Kurt recently warms my heart. I mean he was still making sporadic great stuff (Vanilla Sky), but he's really back with full force now.
 

SaviourMK2

Member
Just watched this last night with my girlfriend and friends. I absolutely lost it when
Drax screamed "AHHHH MY NIPPLES"
 
The scene where Mantis touches Drax while he is thinking about his kid is amazing. Drax sitting there with no outward show of emotion while Mantis emotes for him. It was really powerful.

I'm hoping Mantis latches on to Drax as a surrogate father, and we see more of that in the next film.

It's weird, but I honestly think GotG might be the first MCU film to get two trilogies. There's so much you could do with the inter team dynamic. Family.
 

HeySeuss

Member
You dirty dog..

Don't judge lol

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Yooooooo! My man!

I'm also waiting on a gif of Nebula fixing all her joints when after her ship explodes when she chases after Gamora with it.

Very cool scene.

Yeah that's pretty slick how they do that. She did it in the first one too when Drax hits her with that bazooka type weapon.

I know some people are complaining about it but I like how character driven it was. We really got to do a deep dive on these characters that you couldn't do in the first one and really get a sense for what drives them.

The scene where Mantis touches Drax while he is thinking about his kid is amazing. Drax sitting there with no outward show of emotion while Mantis emotes for him. It was really powerful.

Really powerful scene giving you a glimpse of the turmoil he has on the inside. Showing him just staring off into the distance like no big deal and Mantis weeping uncontrollably was probably one of my favorite scenes in the movie. Mostly because Drax is my favorite character and it was cool seeing that development.
 
The scene where Mantis touches Drax while he is thinking about his kid is amazing. Drax sitting there with no outward show of emotion while Mantis emotes for him. It was really powerful.

It's such a well done scene. It worked well to make Drax an even stronger character and it was a really cool showcase for empathic ability.
 

JB1981

Member
Most overlooked joke in the movie is at the end when Quill's in the copilot seat next to Yondu, spots Ego outside the ship turning into like a fucking celestial planet and goes:

"Yea of course I have issues. That's my freakin' father!"
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yeah, i didnt care for this as much.

There was too much humor that fell flat. didnt help that the tuesday night audience sucked. i watched the first one on opening night and it was a blast. a lot of the jokes like the extended title sequence with groot dancing felt forced. taserface was funny the first time but they tried to make it like a five minute comedy routine and it came at the worst time with Yandu half-dead mourning his crew. and it's not like Rocket uses that humor to outwit him and escape. that scene is just there for comedic purposes.

And while that would be ok in a comedy, in a movie about character development it's distracting and pretty much tells us not to take it seriously. one minute a character is pouring her heart out revealing her horrible childhood, the next minute it's used as a punchline. the best scene in the movie is when that girl feels Drax's sadness and doesnt say a word. there is no punchline. She just sits there and sheds a couple of tears.

There was also a lot of loud arguing in the movie. in the first one, they were mostly quipping and it came off as hilarious banter. here it's just curb your enthusiasm style yelling at each other and it got old fast. Rocket/Quill, Rocket/Yandu, Gamorah/Sister, Quill/Gomorah, it felt forced and tbh i have no idea why after all these years they are still yelling at each other all the time.

Splitting the team for pretty much the entire movie was also not a great idea. the Yandu/Quill relationship felt forced. he's his daddy now? come on. they could've done a better job setting that up. his funeral doesnt feel earned. Quill's speech about cherishing what's infront of you doesnt feel earned. the last shot of a teary eyed rocket doesnt feel earned.

With all the negatives out of the way, i'd say this James Gunn guy brought this sense of style and character missing from most Marvel movies. the movie looks absolutely gorgeous, every action scene is shot at this really energetic pace with a visual flair missing from again, most marvel movies. i do like that he tried to focus on character growth, but his decision to make everything a joke just took me out of the movie. And looking at the muted reactions from the audience, i would say i wasn't the only one.
 
a lot of the jokes like the extended title sequence with groot dancing felt forced.

Rocket/Quill, Rocket/Yandu, Gamorah/Sister, Quill/Gomorah, it felt forced and tbh i have no idea why after all these years they are still yelling at each other all the time.

Splitting the team for pretty much the entire movie was also not a great idea. the Yandu/Quill relationship felt forced.

Dude are you trying to kill half the thread, that's like six shots you committed them to
 
Yeah it was really cool to see Kurt Russell at his peak again circa Escape From New York. Kurt's been saying it was mostly him shaving and his makeup guy that did the work and ILM did a few CG touch-ups and that was it, which is totally what they should have done with other "de-aging" characters in the past, because this didn't have an uncanny valley effect at all for me.

CG Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy looks so bad now comparatively, even Michael Douglas in Ant Man and Robert Downey Jr. in Civil War look worse in hindsight.

I must not be that sensitive to uncanny valley because I thought Douglas, RDJ, Carrey, and that other dude in RO all looked great.
 

AndersK

Member
'You guys do nothing but yell at each other. You're not friends.'

'No, we're familiy'

On point, even though the sentiment has been run into the ground by Fn'F. And possibly Jersey Shore. Anyways, it makes sense.
 

Bunta

Fujiwara Tofu Shop
'You guys do nothing but yell at each other. You're not friends.'

'No, we're familiy'

On point, even though the sentiment has been run into the ground by Fn'F. And possibly Jersey Shore. Anyways, it makes sense.

That was the first thing I thought of as soon as they said that, haha. Vol 3 confirmed to be space racing! lol
 
The scene where Mantis touches Drax while he is thinking about his kid is amazing. Drax sitting there with no outward show of emotion while Mantis emotes for him. It was really powerful.
I read that scene a little differently to you.

For me Drax had an amazingly subtle mix of sadness and happiness. While thinking about the horrible fact of his loss is bad, remembering the good times with them still brings him happiness.

Because of his stoic nature and the fact he has been living with the pain his reactions are subtle but because mantis hasn't experienced such loss its overwhelming for her.

One of the best moments in the film for me and helped reinforce that batista is a lot more capable then people give him credit when it comes to acting.
 
Wow quite a few people in here saying they found Guardians 2 to be emotional.

For me, Logan raised the bar so damn high that other than finding scenes funny I never found anything in Guardians 2 to be emotional or that sad coz from what I remember, any emotional attempt was quickly followed by a joke.

Will def re-watch when it's released on streaming.
 

Kumquat

Member
I read that scene a little differently to you.

For me Drax had an amazingly subtle mix of sadness and happiness. While thinking about the horrible fact of his loss is bad, remembering the good times with them still brings him happiness.

Because of his stoic nature and the fact he has been living with the pain his reactions are subtle but because mantis hasn't experienced such loss its overwhelming for her.

One of the best moments in the film for me and helped reinforce that batista is a lot more capable then people give him credit when it comes to acting.

Entirely possible that was it as well. A very good point.
 

Saganator

Member
Wow quite a few people in here saying they found Guardians 2 to be emotional.

I think it depends on one's life experience to find the movie emotional. As a step dad, the ending gave me some feels. Overall though, I found the movie to be pretty damn funny. Drax is my favorite character by far, his laugh is infectious. I left the movie wishing I had a friend like Drax. Everyone could use a friend that laughs at all your jokes, is brutally honest with you, and always has your back.
 

Zen Aku

Member
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I watched the movie again last night and this still hurt :(

Drax was in pain but you can see that it wasn't really expressive. Like he learned to hold in his pains. Meanwhile Mantis took in someone else's pain and wasn't prepare for a feeling that powerful. It really show how emotionally strong Drax is.
 
Really powerful scene giving you a glimpse of the turmoil he has on the inside. Showing him just staring off into the distance like no big deal and Mantis weeping uncontrollably was probably one of my favorite scenes in the movie. Mostly because Drax is my favorite character and it was cool seeing that development.

About this, I notice how when Mantis is projecting Drax's feelings, it is very literal and exaggerated which suits Drax's personality. She didn't become aroused or sultry when pointing out Peter's sexual desires for Gamora for instance. Great moment.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Watch Hateful Eight. The career resurgence of Kurt recently warms my heart. I mean he was still making sporadic great stuff (Vanilla Sky), but he's really back with full force now.

I'd recommend Deep Water Horizon too. That and Bone Tomahawk.

And I don't see how you can't get a bit emotional with GOTG2. It probably had one of the best scenes in a while, with Yondu stating that he may of been your father, but he wasn't your daddy. It really runs home that family is who you make it to be and who cares for you. Which, isn't always the people who are your blood.

Completed with Yondu's old family returning to see him off and Rocket's speech at the end, even if you act like an ass and try to push them away. Your family is still going to be there at the end for you and there is always time to redeem yourself.
 

y2dvd

Member
Wow quite a few people in here saying they found Guardians 2 to be emotional.

For me, Logan raised the bar so damn high that other than finding scenes funny I never found anything in Guardians 2 to be emotional or that sad coz from what I remember, any emotional attempt was quickly followed by a joke.

Will def re-watch when it's released on streaming.

I thought Yondu's death was handled extremely well and I felt more emotional than Logan. Spoiler for Logan I suppose.
Charles dies outta nowhere, and it was from a clone lookalike of all things. Logan had a slight arc and in all honesty, he didn't make a sacrifice. He just dies in battle and was on the verge of death anyways. Yondu gets a complete arc. You see him at a low point pondering his life. He runs into his old crew and is ashamed of his status. You think he's been a shithead to Peter but learn in his own tough love way, he always watched out for Peter. He sees his own self reflection in Rocket and how self destructive it is to the relationships around him. He then makes the ultimate sacrifice to save his "son" when he could've selfishly lived.

Yondu has one of the best arcs in CBM, period, so it's easy for me to find his death emotional.
 
Drax was in pain but you can see that it wasn't really expressive. Like he learned to hold in his pains. Meanwhile Mantis took in someone else's pain and wasn't prepare for a feeling that powerful. It really show how emotionally strong Drax is.

Ya, Drax looks like he's either at peace or very stoic with those particular emotions and Mantis doesn't know how to deal with it
 

Mr. Robot

Member
Splitting the team for pretty much the entire movie was also not a great idea. the Yandu/Quill relationship felt forced. he's his daddy now? come on. they could've done a better job setting that up. his funeral doesnt feel earned. Quill's speech about cherishing what's infront of you doesnt feel earned. the last shot of a teary eyed rocket doesnt feel earned.

I don't know, the first movie left me with the impression that Yondu protects Quill above everything else, he just acts all tough about it, i mean, Quill screwed him out of their deal with the infinity stone and Yondu just laughed it off.
 
Ya, Drax looks like he's either at peace or very stoic with those particular emotions and Mantis doesn't know how to deal with it

The insinuation is that Drax is constantly feeling that level of anquish that would wreck anyone else, yet he still retains his stoic demeanor (outside of battle) and avoids most outward emotions. Like he told Quill, there are those who dance and those who do not.
 
Wow quite a few people in here saying they found Guardians 2 to be emotional.

For me, Logan raised the bar so damn high that other than finding scenes funny I never found anything in Guardians 2 to be emotional or that sad coz from what I remember, any emotional attempt was quickly followed by a joke.

Will def re-watch when it's released on streaming.

Oh God.

Peter screaming "NO" as Yondu died in front of him was more emotional than anything that happened in Logan.

Most hard-hitting moment in that movie was Laura making the X over his grave at the end. Fitting end for Jackman's run, but gimme a fucking break otherwise.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
I thought Yondu's death was handled extremely well and I felt more emotional than Logan. Spoiler for Logan I suppose.
Charles dies outta nowhere, and it was from a clone lookalike of all things. Logan had a slight arc and in all honesty, he didn't make a sacrifice. He just dies in battle and was on the verge of death anyways. Yondu gets a complete arc. You see him at a low point pondering his life. He runs into his old crew and is ashamed of his status. You think he's been a shithead to Peter but learn in his own tough love way, he always watched out for Peter. He sees his own self reflection in Rocket and how self destructive it is to the relationships around him. He then makes the ultimate sacrifice to save his "son" when he could've selfishly lived.

Yondu has one of the best arcs in CBM, period, so it's easy for me to find his death emotional.

If you're talking about Logan.

That's what works for the flick Logan was going for. Charles just dies... unheroically. It's all about the last of days and the end of heroes. It wouldn't make sense for him to have a heroic death. It's actually even more cruel since it's Charles finally opening up about what happened, what he is sorry for, showing his selfish side with wanting to stay with the people for one normal night, etc. Basically the father on his death bed opening up to the son.

And it's to a clone. I mean, it's a cold fucking mean death that reinstate what Logan is about. It works for the type of flick it is going too and it does wrap up his arc beautifully. Just... it's not the good type of death like Yondu was.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
Oh God.

Peter screaming "NO" as Yondu died in front of him was more emotional than anything that happened in Logan.

Most hard-hitting moment in that movie was Laura making the X over his grave at the end. Fitting end for Jackman's run, but gimme a fucking break otherwise.
Logan is a joke compared to this
 
I mean don't get me wrong, Logan was certainly an emotional film but I can't compare the two. Logan was so emotionally draining that by the end of it you're glad that Charles and Logan finally get some much needed rest from all the horrors they faced.

Yondu's death was sacrificial like Logan's but it was also untimely, just at the moment where he and Peter finally connect as father and son to one another. It hit me a lot harder personally. I get that something similar did happen for Laura and Logan but it felt more like Logan was at peace to understand and accept fatherhood and Yondu and Peter had so much more to go through.
 

AndersK

Member
Awww shiiiiet unmarked spoilers on unrelated recently released movie. I missed it in the cinema mang :-(

I'll live. I suppose.
 
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