Hopefully not. Move on from that bullshit. They shouldn't be killing everyone at every turn but it shouldn't be left off the table.Did the island full of warriors with sharp swords and arrows not kinda give this away?
She was raised a warrior! But I get your point. It will be interesting to see in JL if Supes pushes this morality on the entire league.
Wonder Woman |OT| The World is Ready for You, Gal Gad [SPOILERS]
- Thread starter 3N16MA
- Start date
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
I loved Wonder Woman, but buddy...
If that's the best movie you've seen since Fury Road you need to watch better movies. :0
Hey, that sort of works.
Bring on Circle and/or Hades. Bring in Barbara Ann Minerva as Wonder Woman's tag along and mythology expert. Let the morale of the story be that messing with the natural order of things having disastrous consequences.
Did the island full of warriors with sharp swords and arrows not kinda give this away?
She was raised a warrior! But I get your point. It will be interesting to see in JL if Supes pushes this morality on the entire league.
FYI, if BvS is any indication, Bats has NO problem at all with killing.
Don't see how DC could given the body count in MoS and BvS.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Here's the thing: we know that Steve loved Diana... but did Diana love Steve?
Did the island full of warriors with sharp swords and arrows not kinda give this away?
She was raised a warrior! But I get your point. It will be interesting to see in JL if Supes pushes this morality on the entire league.
FYI, if BvS is any indication, Bats has NO problem at all with killing.
Well, I went into this movie knowing absolutely nothing about WW and the comics lol. I didn't know she rolled that way haha.
BronsonLee
Member
Diana is like Cap, she knows what needs to be done and isn't a little bitch like Batman
Important Note: Diana is the one who kissed him, not the other way around
Important Note: Diana is the one who kissed him, not the other way around
Duh, dude. Homegirl went bezerk when Steve died.
I think she loved that Irish dude, judging by the way she smiles at him.
Or the actor guy.
Or the Native American.
Maybe she just has a love for all.
From the research I'm doing so far, you're right. She will kill, but only if she has to. Whereas Bat and Supes try to avoid it at all cost.
TheTylerDurden
Member
Yes.
1. Her reaction when he died.
2. Her touching of his photograph on the wall at the end of the war, almost in tears.
3. Her note to Bruce Wayne at the end of the movie.
There were other indicators beyond this, albeit subtle.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
I don't see what is so wrong about the romance. Steve is a good guy who's trying to do the right thing and WILL do the right thing. He's just unable to because either he's physically incapable or forbidden to. He still does them and Diana likes that in a person. In a world full of crappy generals, soldiers, and what not, he'll still risk his life for good. Diana being for good is why Steve loves her. They both have a desire to help people so it's not nonsense that they'd get together.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Dude is Scottish.
Steve is in a squad of people who opt to act selflessly.
It's hard to shake the feeling that the only reason why Diana loves him is because she met him first.
I think I've had his accent change everytime I try to recall the movie.
Yeah, I think it was Scottish, but for some reason I'm hearing him as Welsh now.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Yeah, this is actually what I'm driving at. I think she loved everyone, and especially loved Steve just not in a "you're my one true soulmate" kind of way.
Basically, I don't think the "falls in love with the first guy she meets/born sexy yesterday" trope exactly fits here.
I'd do this over a friend I didn't fuck, though. There's lots of different kinds of love is my point.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Means nothing overall. You learn more about Steve because the others play roles to show you how good / bad humanity can be. Saying Diana would be with any guy she first met just shows you didn't actually pay attention to Steve and Diana's characters. It's not like every guy out there is Steve. In the bar, Diana didn't like how they worked for money.
I mean I think that it appeared to be capsizing for no particular reason. But there was plenty of weird things like that in this movie.
The Germans that went after Diana and Steve when they got to britain... Only one took a cyanide pill, but the others were just knocked out. But because one did... They couldn't get info and just left them there?
Overall a good movie, but still has plenty of the weird continuity and editing issues that most DC movies seem to have. It's good in spite of those things, not because it fixed them(though admittedly they're not nearly as prevalent).
Edit: to chime in on the romance aspect. Yeah it was uneccesary but not forced. What would have made it better is if pine actually had some kind of back story about his life so you could understand the things he's feeling towards her in the same way. He's maybe a bit better than the typical female love interest because he has his own agency but he still suffers from flat writing of his character.
All dead giveaways. Especially, the "thanks for bringing him back to me" message.
Brian Griffin
Member
Haha, I guess I should have noted that I don't watch many movies and watch even less in the theater. Rogue One was the last movie I saw in the theater. Since Fury Road I've watched probably less than a dozen movies, not for lack of want, but lack of time. There's also a lot of good shit on TV nowadays.
Also, I did say my opinion towards it was in terms of how I felt immediately after seeing it, which is one of the few instances where I wholly embrace my in-the-moment emotional opinion over any logical criticism.
Yep the destroyer hit the reef and started sinking.
elrechazado
Banned
My biggest gripe with the movie:. How do you get from the Mediterranean to the British isles in a tiny sailboat during a major war?
Pilgrimzero
Member
TheTylerDurden
Member
I'll just go with Occam's Razor here.
The filmmakers want us to believe she loved him, at least that's what seems obvious to me. You can argue contrary and that's fine, but I'll just go with what was on the screen.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
They were towed. Steve stole the plans from the Ottoman Empire but was shot down overseas. They never said where the island was.
elrechazado
Banned
Umm, themyscira is clearly in the Mediterranean. It's one of the reasons they shoehorned in the secret Turkish base. They were towed is fine I guess.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Steve flies off after stealing the notebook. We don't know what direction he flew. They never said where the island was. We can only assume that Steve was flying back to London but was shot down by German ships. If anything, the island isn't in the Mediterranean but somewhere off the coast of Europe close to the UK.
Galactic Specter
Member
Just got back, this movie was really good and is probably the best DC movie since the Dark Knight.
Dr. Poison was too goddamn kawaii.
Dr. Poison was too goddamn kawaii.
WW was good.
But they still have to establish some sort of track record.
Justice League still looks very dull to me.
And 1 good movie out of 4 doesn't convince me just yet.
methane47
Gold Member
saw it last night...
i thought it was good.. not great
First act was great... second act was ok.. third act was pretty mediocre..
I actually dozed off for a second in one of those lengthy dialogue scenens sigh.
Better question is... How did a destroyer and some row boats chase down a freaking PLANE lol seriously?
i thought it was good.. not great
First act was great... second act was ok.. third act was pretty mediocre..
I actually dozed off for a second in one of those lengthy dialogue scenens sigh.
Better question is... How did a destroyer and some row boats chase down a freaking PLANE lol seriously?
This is, however, a fair attitude to take. Warner Brothers is in a position where they have to prove themselves.
I know I'm supposed to look at the image on the cover, but my eye keeps getting drawn to that price of ONE FREAKIN' DOLLAR.
Man, I miss the good old days.
Joe Prodigy
Member
Saw this earlier today. Holy moly. I wasn't too hyped for this movie. I think Wonder Woman is ok, I thought the trailers looked decent.
I was blown away. Absolutely loved the movie. Gal Gadot was fantastic. Great chemistry with Chris Pine. Awesome action scenes.
I think they did a great job of having a strong woman lead without beating the audience over the head about it.
I'm super excited for Justice League.
I was blown away. Absolutely loved the movie. Gal Gadot was fantastic. Great chemistry with Chris Pine. Awesome action scenes.
I think they did a great job of having a strong woman lead without beating the audience over the head about it.
I'm super excited for Justice League.
layzie1989
Member
The telling of the history of mankind and the Amazons had AMAZING art direction. Looked like a classical Renaissance painting come to life. My mouth was agape.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Best DC film since Dark Knight. No contest. Great action and Gal was a great WW. Script was tolerable to good in parts. I think I'm a WW fan now.
CloudyTuba
Member
Adjusted for inflation, that's the equivalent of $3.75. Aren't most DC comics right now between $3-$4?
You're in the good old days. Many of your comics now are cheaper than that issue was in 78.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
- Jenkins
Ares is literally the antithetical embodiment of that view in the third act, and the one Diana grows to counter. Humanity has free will and all it takes is one little push to set them over the cliff of their own doing. Very TDK Joker esque when you think about it.
I love this quote. I'm so glad DC played it straight. I like my Marvel movies, but they wouldn't be able to do this movie. They'd have WW slingling one-liners left and right.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
It was $3.75 for 68 pages of comic. Nowadays you only get about 20.
elrechazado
Banned
Greek names, Greek goddess, near turkey. It's the med.
Also, effective flight time for WW1 planes was max of about three hours. Top speeds in the 150s. It's the med.
I think there's something to this. The Synderverse version of the DC universe is undeniably dark, a carryover from the Nolanverse, I guess. Marvel's got smart-alecky all tied up, which ultimately paid off by getting Joss Whedon to do the Avengers movies. But there's a lot of unapologetic sincerity and hopefulness in Jenkins' approach. You got a little of that in the first Captain America movie as well. There's just something about setting a movie in the past that makes it okay for an audience to accept sweetness and optimism without a dollop of sarcasm of snappy one-liners.
CloudyTuba
Member
Ah, so the price hasn't changed much but the amount of pages is what's changed.
I did not realize it had so many pages! Makes sense since the modern expected art style is usually so much more demanding and time consuming.
You're supposed to post a movie that disproves their point
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I kind of wish the first part of the movie was longer. It was basically Moana + Little Mermaid, and that was the best part. Then it turned into a dreary Star Wars remake, complete with "I AM YOUR FATHER BROTHER" "NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!" hand sword getting cut off scene with Dragon Ball Z style action and my brain refused to contain itself and I just started uncontrollably giggling for 10 minutes.
I also think the logic of the world is stupid, because this implies humanity is willing to commit atrocities after Ares - WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, 9/11, etc, etc, and Wonder Woman just says fuck it and lets it happen.
Also, Gods exist, for some reason. lol
Oh, I think the movie for me works if I think of it as Star Trek 4 and Pine is actually Kirk undercover after flying around the Sun to change time. He even rides a bike like Kirk (which I'm sure someone can splice in SABOTAAAAGE when the Bluray comes out), and you can just pretend that Spock beams him out seconds after he blows up the gas tanks and restores the original Timeline.
I also think the logic of the world is stupid, because this implies humanity is willing to commit atrocities after Ares - WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, 9/11, etc, etc, and Wonder Woman just says fuck it and lets it happen.
Also, Gods exist, for some reason. lol
Oh, I think the movie for me works if I think of it as Star Trek 4 and Pine is actually Kirk undercover after flying around the Sun to change time. He even rides a bike like Kirk (which I'm sure someone can splice in SABOTAAAAGE when the Bluray comes out), and you can just pretend that Spock beams him out seconds after he blows up the gas tanks and restores the original Timeline.
To be fair, you're right about the art. The kind of stuff guys like Jim Lee can crank out now when they return to penciling is quite a bit different from the heavy hitters back in the day like George Perez or John Byrne.