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Skullwaker
Member
I would at least expect them to call it MH5 in Japan. I understand not doing it in the west.
Also, a main team can also make spinoffs in addition to mainline entries.
Also, a main team can also make spinoffs in addition to mainline entries.
Jon Carter
Member
A Switch Monster Hunter would be $60 too, and it would be portable. Making a big PS4/XBO/PC Monster Hunter is not the risky move here, it's making a big Monster Hunter on everything but the Nintendo handheld. It just seems like a bad move.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I mean they can both be mainline.
Like Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne: main team works on new idea, other team continues the series.
That's right, after Super Mario Bros 3, they named their next title Super Mario Wor...
Mother of god!
/Joke
Skullwaker
Member
I agree that they both can be mainline. I think it's really too early to call and many people are jumping the gun here, lol.
Gotdatmoney
Member
You're literally so eager to flaunt you don't even know who you made a bet with :/
It is honestly any riskier than making a brand new big Monster Hunter for the Wii instead of the PSP at the peak of MH popularity?
technically New Super Mario Bros is the sequel to Bros3
frankie_baby
Member
Yeah. I expect MH World series to be a series targeted for the Western audience (newer fanbase), while traditional numbered MH series to be targeted towards Japanese audience (existing fanbase).
OrbitalBeard
Member
jeremy1456
Junior Member
It's likely going to sell like a spin-off in Japan.
This means its going to be a bomb for a 'mainline' game.
This means its going to be a bomb for a 'mainline' game.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I usually recognise posters by their avatar. Woops. Getting late here, though I was sure it started with g.
This looks good but why is it blurry? Not direct feed?
he is drown in happiness, let him be
I would suspect they care more about WW sales, but we'll see how this matches up. They made bank off of MH4 and Ultimate.
brilliant
jeremy1456
Junior Member
With Nintendo's advertising of course.
We'll see how they can do without it, but I'm not expecting much.
The visuals in general are a mixed bag. The Monster looks pretty good as you would expect as does some other elements but you can see they also made sure to minimize work when it comes to the overall world.I usually recognise posters by their avatar. Woops. Getting late here, though I was sure it started with g.
This looks good but why is it blurry? Not direct feed?
Looking more and more like this is pretty much traditional MH with a few updates and tweaks that you would expect of a sequel jumping to a new platform. Changing my expectations of how this will be received little by little here.
From the MH Community Manager:
-All 14 weapons confirmed
-Health, Stamina, Potions, Sharpness all present
-Most importantly, well done steak jingle is there!
Looking forward to the stream on the 20th.
From the MH Community Manager:
-All 14 weapons confirmed
-Health, Stamina, Potions, Sharpness all present
-Most importantly, well done steak jingle is there!
Looking forward to the stream on the 20th.
Jon Carter
Member
I wouldn't say it's riskier as the franchise will once again survive just fine, but it's more baffling. Capcom had no idea how a home console mainline game would sell post-franchise explosion, so they tried. They went right back to handhelds and to making loads of money. Now they're trying home consoles again while excluding the one home console that doubles as a handheld. I don't think that's very smart. The logical business decision was Switch/PS4, and maybe XBO and PC.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Indeed
he is drown in happiness, let him be
Lol at least we can move on from this topic now.
Very genuine apology there lol.
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June 20th we get an extended look. I'm pretty excited to see more now that the details are coming out.
I mean it really depends on what you think their aims here are.
Laplasakos
Member
This sounds better and better. Can't wait for the stream now.
i suppose out of all possibilities, this platform and game choice makes the most sense
it means mainline mh5 should be switch and maybe ps4, maybe depending on how it sells on ps4, while we know mh is guaranteed to do well on the switch
i don't think capcom expects it to sell well in japan, but i think it could surprise us, considering western games are trending upwards in japan and mh has done well on consoles, even ports
1m is alot to ask, but 500k+ is reasonable, it isn't mainline after all
it means mainline mh5 should be switch and maybe ps4, maybe depending on how it sells on ps4, while we know mh is guaranteed to do well on the switch
i don't think capcom expects it to sell well in japan, but i think it could surprise us, considering western games are trending upwards in japan and mh has done well on consoles, even ports
1m is alot to ask, but 500k+ is reasonable, it isn't mainline after all
congrats, until next time ^^
Of course not, Super Mario Bros 4 was the mainline title
It's not Monster Hunter 5: Monster Hunter World in Japan.
This argument is silly since it's by the main team, so it's still a traditional MH whether or not they ever make a MH5. The curious thing will be sales.
This.
Not claiming it's not a major title. It is. But calling it Monster Hunter 5 in Japan would have sent the message loud and clear "This is the future of the Monster Hunter series". I think this is them hedging their bets. If this game does very well, then there doesn't need to be a Monster Hunter 5 and this the World branding takes over. If it does not live up to expectations, Capcom can announce the "real" successor as MH5. Kind of the Nintendo "third pillar" strategy.
And I know the MH team behind the title gives it a status above that of something like Frontier but I don't think it automatically removes the possibility of it being a spin-off game. Several Tales games were announced as flagship titles but that status was scaled back when they sold poorly.
And as an extreme example, meant for comedy, "Link's Crossbow Training" was made by the same team as Twilight Princess. Is it mainline now?
obviously
This is why the whole idea of categorizing something as 'mainline' or a 'spinoff' is ridiculous when it's fluid in retrospect and doesn't even matter.
Monster Hunter Portable was the original 'spinoff.'
So let's say MHW sells 2m on the west and only 1m in Japan,do you honestly believe that Capcom will abandon Nintendo(handhelds)?
I know this isn't Media Create Sales thread anymore, and it became the official MH thread, but changing topic.
After Sony E3, I've just realized that PS4 line up after summer is weak. The typical western games and... Ni no Kuni 2?
I guess GT Sport will release some day this year, but regarding to sales, weak line up.
After Sony E3, I've just realized that PS4 line up after summer is weak. The typical western games and... Ni no Kuni 2?
I guess GT Sport will release some day this year, but regarding to sales, weak line up.
Okami and I discussed this earlier, a few weeks back, but E3 hasn't changed the scene other than adding NnK2 which isn't anything exceptionally notable (after all, its a title for the west more than it is for Japan).
Not much added/announced for the rest of this year.
Monster Hunter Discussion: Week 22, 2017 (May 29 - Jun 04)
I mean there's exclusive MH coming next year
At some point, your charade stops being tolerable. Posting nonsense like this is approaching that line. You're in a sales thread, you should know why this isn't "good" even with your likely unlikely estimate of six months. Try more like eight.
After months of a relatively weak software line-up. That is the point that hiska was making, we've been through this song and dance before, and the "promise" of software does not solve an absence of it.
Odds are this isn't the case and that's a really big gap
it does matter because they determine sales
u aren't gonna find many games where the mainline doesn't sell the most vs spinoffs
and mhp is a poor example, considering it is basically mhg with very minor differences, that isn't the case with mh:w compared to the mainline on handheld, unless you think there is a possibility it sells more
2m sales right there huh
thats the possibility of 2m ps4 consoles!
bonus indeed
Laplasakos
Member
TGS probably.
On another note, it really shows how much the console market has gone in Japan now that Sony has a system with established million sellers Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid and Gran Turismo yet selling a fraction of as well as PS2 is the ambition.
They made a 'spinoff' and got lucky. It's now the 'mainline.' This is why these labels are useless.
So when Capcom made MHP you think they were making a conscious effort to move the 'mainline' series to PSP? lol. Then why didn't it have a number in the title?
They made a 'spinoff' and got lucky. It's now the 'mainline.' This is why these labels are useless.
No. No I don't. I think it would need to sell 5 million+ for it to make any logical sense for Capcom to kill the golden goose.
But then again this is Capcom...
How the hell is it nonsense? Those are literally the two biggest third party franchises in Japan, all they need it a little bit of stuff in between.
That wasn't "instead of the PSP", that was instead of the PS3. MH Tri had been announced (and shown) for the PS3 before the "big betrayalton". MHP3 still happened after that.
(And I don't believe MH Tri Wii was riskier than MHTri PS3 knowing the state of the japanese home console market in 2008)
Gotdatmoney
Member
Most of the major franchises have kind of been played already and we don't see the volume of retail games we once did. But yeah, the line up is pretty soft as of right now. I do think Ni No Kuni 2 is gonna perform pretty solid though.