Transformers: The Last Knight review thread

You're not wrong. It's easily the third best in the series, but it seems that any blockbuster not Marvel or Star Wars has to go above and beyond any and all reasonable expectations to avoid becoming this week's worst movie of the year. I'm not a fan of Bay's Transformers, but come the fuck on, these reviews are just clickbait hyperbole.
It has nothing to do with Marvel, Star Wars, or somehow needing to above reasonable expectations to not be shit on.

Blockbuster is more than just spectacle. See The Mummy most recently. It's not the critics' fault that most blockbusters this year so far have been so poor in so many aspects.
 

GAMEPROFF

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You're not wrong. It's easily the third best in the series, but it seems that any blockbuster not Marvel or Star Wars has to go above and beyond any and all reasonable expectations to avoid becoming this week's worst movie of the year. I'm not a fan of Bay's Transformers, but come the fuck on, these reviews are just clickbait hyperbole.

I hope I can live long enough to see the day where people ackowlege that this has nothing to do with specific brands and more with how much the film maker invest and care about the certain franchises.
Cause if Bay would invest himself more into Transformers and the origin of the property and wouldnt make one murderbots product placement explosiaton, he would also get better reviews.
 

Kaban

Member
Well, that was terrible.

First hour was surprisingly less awful than I was anticipating... in fact, it was tolerable.

Then when the focus shifted to the humans and their awful dialogue, it just kept getting worse. I haven't been this mortified watching a film since I saw Spider-Man 3.
 
Well, that was terrible.

First hour was surprisingly less awful than I was anticipating... in fact, it was tolerable.

Then when the focus shifted to the humans and their awful dialogue, it just kept getting worse. I haven't been this mortified watching a film since I saw Spider-Man 3.

Bad dialogue? Suicide Squad is what that comes to my mind! Spiderman 3 was actually fun and I actually liked the emo peter parker!
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
You're not wrong. It's easily the third best in the series,

"Transformers: The Last Knight is the third best movie in the series!"

I want that quote to be used in a commercial.

but it seems that any blockbuster not Marvel or Star Wars has to go above and beyond

You're trying to paint Michael Bay's Transformers as some kind of victim, as if critics are out to get it, but the reality of the situation is simple:

Transformers movies are blockbusters. They are also bad movies.

Marvel Studios and Star Wars movies are also blockbusters. But they're usually not bad movies.
 

PowderedToast

Junior Member
It might be time to retire the word 'cringe.'
eh, I feel like it's an appropriate usage, seeing critics try to one up each other is kind of lame

regardless of the films quality they should still do their job without giving into hyperbole. it's their cultural responsibility.

this comes from a position of someone invested in criticism rather than the transformers series itself
 

clemenx

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Lmao, GAF is so hilarious regarding Transformers. The holiest art of cinema is getting brutally murdered by Michael Bay! someone call the cops.

I have never seen these movies at the theatre btw. But I always watch them if I catch them on cable. They're fun to watch + my kid loves the toys. What's not to love.
 
The "this movie was written by people who's only exposure to England was Monty Python" description was very apt.

And yeah, Bay filmed that teenage girl like eye candy for a few very uncomfortable shots.

In fairness, I don't think Bay is mentally capable of filming in any way other than objectifying. A women who is not eye candy simply does not register in his brain.

What does this even mean?

Its a junior trying (and failing) to defend Michael Bay. Just ignore.
 

jman2050

Member
eh, I feel like it's an appropriate usage, seeing critics try to one up each other is kind of lame

regardless of the films quality they should still do their job without giving into hyperbole. it's their cultural responsibility.

this comes from a position of someone invested in criticism rather than the transformers series itself

What does this even mean?
 
In fairness, I don't think Bay is mentally capable of filming in any way other than objectifying. A women who is not eye candy simply does not register in his brain.

I said it in the spoiler thread but Female British lead came across like Bay still had hangups about working with Kate Beckinsale.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
eh, I feel like it's an appropriate usage, seeing critics try to one up each other is kind of lame

regardless of the films quality they should still do their job without giving into hyperbole. it's their cultural responsibility.

this comes from a position of someone invested in criticism rather than the transformers series itself

According to people in this thread who have seen the movie, it apparently isn't hyperbole: it's really that bad.

And when you're in the fifth movie in the franchise, which has almost consistently been trash the entire time, I don't think critics need to act very respectful of it.
 

ryseing

Member
Lmao, GAF is so hilarious regarding Transformers. The holiest art of cinema is getting brutally murdered by Michael Bay! someone call the cops.

I have never seen these movies at the theatre btw. But I always watch them if I catch them on cable. They're fun to watch + my kid loves the toys. What's not to love.

Bay has some very real issues, particularly how he views women and the military.

I'd rather not support those beliefs, particularly when they're wrapped in a horrible film.
 

Hitman

Edmonton's milkshake attracts no boys.
One of the shittiest movie franchises but they'll keep making them because people have bad taste and think shitty action and explosions are "fun"
 
Lmao, GAF is so hilarious regarding Transformers. The holiest art of cinema is getting brutally murdered by Michael Bay! someone call the cops.

I have never seen these movies at the theatre btw. But I always watch them if I catch them on cable. They're fun to watch + my kid loves the toys. What's not to love.
Sure, when you don't have to pay for them and as long as kids are enjoying it, job well done.
 

dankir

Member
All you guys who support these films realize the fucking Transformers are barely in any of them.

They are and have always been secondary characters according to Bay.


Hot Rod is a Lamborghini who's French..... what the fuck.
 
"It's just like Marvel and Star Wars" well no, I'mma stop you right there.

Those two things have this novel concept called a "plot".

Sure, it's not high theater, but it. At the very least, makes fucking sense.

Bay's movies are nonsensical, they disregard the previous movies on a whim, the entire first movie might as well have never happened. Nothing in them makes any sense what so ever and unlike Fast and the Furious it's actually trying to take it's narrative seriously. When it doesn't even HAVE a narrative.
 
If I put every scene where a transformer was the POV character, not just action scenes, from all 5 movies, you probably still wouldn't get a full 1 1/2 hour runtime on a single movie.
 
"It's just like Marvel and Star Wars" well no, I'mma stop you right there.

Those two things have this novel concept called a "plot".

Sure, it's not high theater, but it. At the very least, makes fucking sense.

Bay's movies are nonsensical, they disregard the previous movies on a whim, the entire first movie might as well have never happened. Nothing in them makes any sense what so ever and unlike Fast and the Furious it's actually trying to take it's narrative seriously. When it doesn't even HAVE a narrative.
This is the thing, why is a franchise about robot toys so joyless? Compared to Fast and Furious, Baby Driver, Wonder Woman, and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 from this year, this movie franchise just doesn't know how to have fun or humour. Snyder and Bay are appropriate bedfellows.
 
This is the thing, why is a franchise about robot toys so joyless? Compared to Fast and Furious, Baby Driver, Wonder Woman, and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 from this year, this movie franchise just doesn't know how to have fun or humour. Snyder and Bay are appropriate bedfellows.
It's a movie about selling toys to kids that has more cussing in it than some adult oriented comedies I've seen this year.
 
Devil's advocate here. Why is everyone so hard on what essentialy is a well known commodity. It's a dumb action flick and it knows it. Isn't that what Fast and Furious gets praised for?

Absolutely no difference between both franchises.
 

ryseing

Member
Devil's advocate here. Why is everyone so hard on what essentialy is a well known commodity. It's a dumb action flick and it knows it. Isn't that what Fast and Furious gets praised for?

Absolutely no difference between both franchises.

Fast and Furious has these things called characters and watchable action.

There's a ton of differences.
 
Devil's advocate here. Why is everyone so hard on what essentialy is a well known commodity. It's a dumb action flick and it knows it. Isn't that what Fast and Furious gets praised for?

Absolutely no difference between both franchises.
Yes there are. The characters in fast and furious are meant to be likeable and together, not a random mish mash of pretty people that Bay likes. Fast and the Furious has a plot. A stupid ass plot, but a plot, a narrative, the movies all tie together. Transformers might as well just be fan fiction for how they treat even the preceding movie.

And no, it really doesn't know it's a dumb action flick, and even if it did, it's one done BADLY. The editing, sound direction, scene pacing, set pieces, dialogue and direction are a fucking mess. Fast has proper pacing, it's set pieces are all easily discerned from one another. It's clearly shot and well edited.
 
Devil's advocate here. Why is everyone so hard on what essentialy is a well known commodity. It's a dumb action flick and it knows it. Isn't that what Fast and Furious gets praised for?

Absolutely no difference between both franchises.

Please stop with the false equivalency bullshit.

Fast and Furious has a coherent plot, likable characters, funny dialogue, and well structured action sequences

Transformers has had NONE of that since arguably the first film.
 
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