UK General Election 2017 |OT2| No Government is better than a bad Government

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I think we'll get a Labour government this year. Frankly I wouldn't be too cut up about it.

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NeoGAF propaganda works
 
Some Tories who voted against are already saying they want change in the Autumn. So why the fuck vote against it now? 🤔😂
 
I can see Corbyn getting closer, I just can't see him winning outright without a collapse in the Tory vote.

I can only speak for myself but with things as they are I'd probably prefer a Labour majority to a Tory minority. Sending May to Brussels to negotiate our future is going to look so weak, but we're stuck with her. Ugh.

Labour would still go through with Brexit. If Jezza gets rid of Dianne Abbott and learns to do his tie up properly (not confident in either of these things happening btw), it might not be a complete disaster.

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The granola is working!

Honestly, it's delicious. Way better than supermarket cereal.
 
As a public sector worker, I just want to say - fuck anyone who voted no to a pay increase for the public sector (and anyone who is ok with it).

I just want to slap every Tory voter, it's infuriating.

Yes. Fuck them all.

The end of austerity. But only when it suits the DUP Magic Money Tree.

Absolute cockends
 
Remember that MP for South-East Cornwall who said she was "really pleased" that there were food banks in her constituency during a hustings, got booed/heckled by the audience, and then threatened to phone the police and throw out a woman in the crowd?

Now I don't condone any of the stuff she mentioned here, but maybe she should have a think about why she got such a reaction instead of bringing up some half-arsed point about intimidation putting off good people from becoming MPs just so she can play the martyr.

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Why do they keep using the phrase "kinder and gentler politics" as if Labour MPs can do anything about it?
 
Thanks! Do you have a google alert for posts in this thread btw? You turned up suspiciously quickly.

While we're talking about economics, Carney was on the radio again this morning harping on as usual. Apparently the Bank of England wants people to borrow less. Maybe increase interest rates jerkface?



Well yeah that makes sense. This public sector workers could always leave if they're not happy (I did lol). I always thought the low pay was balanced by having a job for life and being basically unsackable.

The message isn't that the Bank wants people to "borrow less". Monetary policy has stimulated lending as desired, and the Bank doesn't want to suddenly row back on that. What it does want is lending to be extended (as it has been) whilst maintaining underwriting standards. In other words, the message isn't "stop lending so much", it's "make sure that the lending you are doing is of good quality". Dealing with that is not a question of raising interest rates, it's a question of making sure underwriting standards stay high.
 
I can only speak for myself but with things as they are I'd probably prefer a Labour majority to a Tory minority. Sending May to Brussels to negotiate our future is going to look so weak, but we're stuck with her. Ugh.

Labour would still go through with Brexit. If Jezza gets rid of Dianne Abbott and learns to do his tie up properly (not confident in either of these things happening btw), it might not be a complete disaster.

Labour winning mid-negotiation and taking over whatever Davis has cooked up in his department sounds like a recipe for disaster to be honest.

The tories don't have a good track record on planning for all eventualities.
 
I dunno, wouldn't be surprised for them to change their position again and call for another review just to appease some backbenchers/the public who will crucify them come the next general election. By which point it just becomes a squiggly line, I prefer the O-turn.

It will be a lying (no pun intended) figure 8 before you know it. ∞
 
Labour winning mid-negotiation and taking over whatever Davis has cooked up in his department sounds like a recipe for disaster to be honest.

The tories don't have a good track record on planning for all eventualities.
Whoever is left holding the bomb when brexit goes off is fucked long term politically.

Nobody is going to be happy with the outcome. Not remain, not leave and not even "don't give a fuck".
 
Whoever is left holding the bomb when brexit goes off is fucked long term politically.

Nobody is going to be happy with the outcome. Not remain, not leave and not even "don't give a fuck".

Definitely, but you at least want some time to negotiate, fuck all work will have been done on anything other than the Tory version of Brexit in Whitehall.
 
The message isn't that the Bank wants people to "borrow less". Monetary policy has stimulated lending as desired, and the Bank doesn't want to suddenly row back on that. What it does want is lending to be extended (as it has been) whilst maintaining underwriting standards. In other words, the message isn't "stop lending so much", it's "make sure that the lending you are doing is of good quality". Dealing with that is not a question of raising interest rates, it's a question of making sure underwriting standards stay high.

We'd all love for banks to only lend to those that can afford it - that'd be great. Unfortunately that's not really a lever that the BoE can just pull.

Labour winning mid-negotiation and taking over whatever Davis has cooked up in his department sounds like a recipe for disaster to be honest.

The tories don't have a good track record on planning for all eventualities.

We're not exactly mid-negotiation right now as far as I can see, but I take the point.
 
Definitely, but you at least want some time to negotiate, fuck all work will have been done on anything other than the Tory version of Brexit in Whitehall.
You would hope they have contingencies in place but they didn't have anything post result last year...so yeah, you're right.
 
We'd all love for banks to only lend to those that can afford it - that'd be great. Unfortunately that's not really a lever that the BoE can just pull.



We're not exactly mid-negotiation right now as far as I can see, but I take the point.

I mean, that is expressly the point of the loan to income limits that the Bank has in place on mortgages. On consumer credit, ensuring underwriting standards remain high is the best way of doing so.

It's all being overblown anyway, the Bank's view is basically that there are potential risks from consumer credit growth, particularly if standards do slip further, not that consumer credit is an imminent threat.
 
We'd all love for banks to only lend to those that can afford it - that'd be great. Unfortunately that's not really a lever that the BoE can just pull.
Well that is part of what finance regulation aims to achieve. Ensuring banks follow correct procedure when lending money keeping overall risk to sustainable levels.
 
Judge has been named for the enquiry.
Let's see what a nice chap we have.

'ruled that a single mum of five who Suffered from diabetes and hypertension, and is HIV-positive was fine to be moved 50 miles away from her home. Her lawyers denounced the move as "ethnic cleansing" and the supreme Court ruled the initial decision wrong and overturned it'

Sounds like just the man for the job.
 
Let's see what a nice chap we have.

'ruled that a single mum of five who Suffered from diabetes and hypertension, and is HIV-positive was fine to be moved 50 miles away from her home. Her lawyers denounced the move as "ethnic cleansing" and the supreme Court ruled the initial decision wrong and overturned it'

Sounds like just the man for the job.
I can imagine the outcome now

"no criminal charges necessary. How would the council know that poor people are quite flammable?"
 
So people voted so that Northern Ireland can get 1B that Wales, Scotland, and those "forgotten" areas in Northern England for some reason never could get because it was so hard to find the money. The money suddenly pops up now that the conservatives have to pay their way into rule.
 
Bets on what May will offer the DUP to not throw a hissy fit when this passes?

I say when like it's assured...I should know better, but I can't believe there'll be many who vote against it.
 
Let's see what a nice chap we have.

'ruled that a single mum of five who Suffered from diabetes and hypertension, and is HIV-positive was fine to be moved 50 miles away from her home. Her lawyers denounced the move as "ethnic cleansing" and the supreme Court ruled the initial decision wrong and overturned it'

Sounds like just the man for the job.

Feels like their paedophile enquiry. Either through complete incompetence or perhaps even deliberately they select people who have controversial backgrounds so one by one these people get dismissed, a new one selected, and you're 6 years later and the enquiry hasn't even started properly yet...

I FUCKING HATE THE TORIES AND EVERYTHING THEY ARE. Please for the love of Christ can Corbyn win the next election and we can dispatch with the Tories and their bullshit for the rest of all time (oldies dying off, woop).
 
Bets on what May will offer the DUP to not throw a hissy fit when this passes?

I say when like it's assured...I should know better, but I can't believe there'll be many who vote against it.

It'll have to be steep, the DUP have been actively blocking that for what feels like the better part of a decade now.

Bernie Smyth might spontaneously combust.
 
Bets on what May will offer the DUP to not throw a hissy fit when this passes?

I say when like it's assured...I should know better, but I can't believe there'll be many who vote against it.
Doesn't matter. If it passes the government falls.
So Tories will vote it down. At great humiliation. Though one would argue it's a devolved matter.
 
Predicting Murdoch is going to get ownership of Sky.

Rupert always gets his way, especially when he has flunkies woven through Government.
I was listening to LBC on my way to work and they had some expert on talking about the potential purchase and he was right up Murdochs arse.

Making it clear how he thought Fox had done wonderful things saving The Sun and Telegraph (I think it was that one) but not once did he mention the idea of a monopoly or any actual pertinent facts. Funny that.
 
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