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A screaming black Woman throwing things gets called ghetto and ratchet, not mentally ill.
A screaming black Woman throwing things gets called ghetto and ratchet, not mentally ill.
Having a mental illness can potentially cause people to say or do irrational things.
She can very likely be racist, and her mental illness caused her act crazy pike this and blurt out stuff.
Would you feel a little bit worse about her if she was a mentally ill racist?
She is prob racist but that video reminds me of psychosis.You think a racist can be mentally healthy?
Every racist is mentally ill.
Sure, idiots say stupid things on videos all the time.
Agreed. We should start with this idea that mentally ill people randomly call people sand niggers
😂This is where my mind's at on this. Otherwise, a lot of posts seem to imply that there are extenuating circumstances around calling people sand niggers.
I'm not 100% sure she has mental health problems, that's for a doctor to decide. But the behavior she's displaying should and I hope landed her in a hospital bed where she's being observed to make that determination.
Anyone that goes into a store and throws stuff around like that while screaming is 99.9% of the time is being influenced by something. It could be drugs, alcohol, or mental illness. The signs she shows could very likely be the third one, but can't be said for sure.Every asshole MIGHT be a good person that just needs help, I dont see the point of watching a youtube video of a violent racist asshole and assuming the best. Do you guys give every belligerent racist this benefit of the doubt? Its also very silly to watch this and try and diagnose her mental health from whats available in the video, based on stereotypes of mentally ill peoples behaviors, what is it that makes her a victim here? Every terrorist and criminal could be a person with issues that needs help, what the fuck is the point here?
What? I don't think the two things I said are at odds at all. I expressed my frustration at the poster who seems to believe all we want to do is laugh and point at a racist, And then I stated another purpose to pointing out her racism besides to laugh at her.
Anyone that goes into a store and throws stuff around like that while screaming is 99.9% of the time is being influenced by something.
A screaming black Woman throwing things gets called ghetto and ratchet, not mentally ill.
You know what, at the end the woman says she will leave if the security dude releases her, so she acknowledges her wrong behavior. That weakens the argument of a mental illness causing her to say all that racist shit.
And racists scream and do irrational shit all the time.
Whynotbothand what's the appropriate response to that? public scorn and mockery or getting someone the help the need before they hurt themself or others?
Two things:
1. This isn't like the majority of times where the footage just shows a person shouting racist shit without any other factors on display and people using the "mental health" defense.
2. Negative perception of mental health is a real issue that needs talking about.
Racism doesnt make someone scream at the top of their lungs or have an off speech pattern, or go into a store and throw stuff. Racism and mental illness aren't mutually exclusive.Yeah...
Like maybe RACISM
No it doesn't.
Especially as the look of irrational fear on her face presents a heavy argument that shes experiencing some kind of psychosis and doesn't fucking understand what she's done.
Again, look up videos of people being angrily racist, even drunkenly, see the way they respond to being caught etc... they don't usually scream "I didn't do anything" in such a desperate way because they /know/ they're racist pieces of shit and they just lost control of their carefully placed mask.
Then compare it to the look on this woman's face at the end of the video.
Then look up people suffering mental breaks and compare everything. Outside of people suffering from severe mental issues, It's very rare you see this kind of deluded hyper-exaggerated reaction /at all/.
Whynotboth
A member of my family has severe mental health issues. Perhaps as a result of long hospital stays during which they had run-ins with mental health nurses, who happened to be predominantly West Indian, they often throw blood-curdling racist slurs around when they're in the middle of a psychotic episode.
When they're lucid they're a very different person, and express contempt for racism. It really is like a Jekyll and Hyde situation. In reference to Bruce Banner's alter ego in The Avengers, they've taken to referring to this other side of themselves as "the other guy."
Judging by that short video I feel it's more of a mental issue than a racism issue really.
Whynotboth
As someone with mental issues I'd like to personally thank you for associating my issues with racism on no evidence whatsoever. It's nice to know if I bring up my issues people will automatically think is this person...
Going to shoot people
going to go into a racist tirade
A sexual predator
Thank you for raising awareness on this subject.
Racism doesnt make someone scream at the top of their lungs or have an off speech pattern, or go into a store and throw stuff.
This is where my mind's at on this. Otherwise, a lot of posts seem to imply that there are extenuating circumstances around calling people sand niggers.
You have no idea what mentally ill people do during episodes and without help. Doesn't matter if their actions are racist or not, they're still mentally ill and need help.
As someone with mental issues I'd like to personally thank you for associating my issues with racism on no evidence whatsoever. It's nice to know if I bring up my issues people will automatically think is this person...
Going to shoot people
going to go into a racist tirade
A sexual predator
Thank you for raising awareness on this subject.
No, it doesn't. Racism is the feeling that a specific race is lower, it's not a diagnosable mental illness regardless of what some people say.What? Yes it does.
No, it doesn't. Racism is the feeling that a specific race is lower, it's not a diagnosable mental illness regardless of what some people say.
If a racist happens to act crazy, then they very likely are mentally ill, and also happen be racist.
We have people that do worse shit than this online on a daily basis. Don't see them getting called mentally ill. Actually wait, when they are white, I do.
Being a loud asshole doing weird things doesn't automatically make you mentally ill. Like I said, you'll clearly don't know what some people will feel emboldened to do by their racism.
People's racism has been used as a justification to enslave, rape, toture, experiment on people and children, sic dogs on people, throw acid at them, shoot them, beat them, lie and say they commited a crime to get them arrested or executed.
All by people completely sane.
Sure I do, I spent two years working with autistic children, ive seen them go into episodes, even seen their anxiety turn to unintended violence. My mother is also schizophrenic, OCD, and has bipolar disorder. My grandfather was suicidal. I have mental health issues of my own, and have had manic episodes. Also its not some secret? It isnt impossible for someone with mental issues to lose control or do something they wouldnt normally do. That doesnt mean everyone being a racist asshole is a good person that needs help, nor that every person that throws a temper tantrum is mentally ill. Thats not how it works. Im not advocating against empathy for the mentally ill, im saying you cant watch a video of a woman being an asshole and yelling "sand nigger" and then bargaining with security to be let go and assume the best of her and associate that shit with mental illness. Maybe shes just a fucking asshole? Most criminals and deviants are people with issues that need help, whats the point of watching someone yell racial slurs at target workers and throw a tantrum and defending her or even lumping her in with mentally ill people? Based on what evidence can you make that assumption? Because she didnt just calmly whisper nigger into someones ear? Fuck that bullshit even if shes mentally ill she can be an asshole
Yall can fuck right off with this armchair psychiatrist bullshit of watching a youtube video and talking about the "signs she displays" and "can confirm, based on what ive seen mentally ill people act like" bullshit. The spectrum of "mental illness" is so vast and her behavior could be explained by a billion normal things even something as simple as shes a spoiled entitled brat or drunk that its fucking ridiculous to be drawing these conclusions. She could VERY easily just be a big asshole. There are millions of mental ill people who dont "act" how shes acting and millions of mentally healthy people who do, so fuck that.
Maybe you should read the video description? It clearly states:
6. I don't think the lady was on drugs, but if she was, she was also mentally ill. She talked a lot about terrorists keeping prisoners in a 'Flesh Cave' down in the basement prior to the video.
Do you feel sorry for the guy who shot up the pizza shop in DC because he believed in pizzagate? He was insane, what about his poor mental health? He was rambling on about a pizza shop and sex trafficking to pedophiles, total loon
Do you feel sorry for the guy who shot up the pizza shop in DC because he believed in pizzagate? He was insane, what about his poor mental health? He was rambling on about a pizza shop and sex trafficking to pedophiles, total loon
Judging by that short video I feel it's more of a mental issue than a racism issue really.
How ironic she is yelling "please help me" to the people 1 minute ago was berating.
It's a racist person with mental issues. I'm not sure why some try and separate the two. It's both in this case.
How ironic she is yelling "please help me" to the people 1 minute ago was berating.
You can believe crazy shit, say crazy shit, and be an asshole, and still not be entitled to a mental health defense. Look at TrumpI'm not saying I feel sorry for anyone. I'm saying that the video and context given strongly suggest that the person in question is mentally ill.
How come the mental health discussion never comes up with POC?
She may have a diagnosed, or undiagnosed condition, I would require receipts before rendering an opinion on her mental health. I frankly don't care that much.
What does strike me as galling in this perpetually pedantic argument of Ill vs. Bigoted, is the fact she was well acquainted with the slur, enough to know that she was targeting it at people who she perceived to be vaguely Sub-Saharan.
In a fog of mental illness, drugs, whatever, she knew who her targets of hate were. She pointed them out for rebuke in connection with her flesh cave fantasy. The same spaces she absorbed 'sand nigger', she fed her bigoted fears. The overlap between conspiracy and hate is real; let's stop trying to atomize, or obscure their interplay and symbiosis.
Do you have examples on gaf where you think it should have been but wasn't?
You can believe crazy shit, say crazy shit, and be an asshole, and still not be entitled to a mental health defense. Look at Trump
Why do people think you have to be mentally ill in order to throw things and say crazy things in a public place?