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[Easy_D]

Looks exactly how I envisioned it. I like it. It's incredibly faithful to the SNES artwork, except in 3D , even if it's a low-budget effort, there's a lot of heart put into this. Can't wait to get my hands on this!

Hopefully it's less 1:1 than Adventure of Mana was though, SoM has quite a few bugs that need fixin'. Also excited to see what the new translation's like.

 

[Brandon F]

People who love Secret of Mana, how does it compare to Ys Oath / Origin?

Boss fights, difficulty and combat systems?

Always seems rather slow and dull to me.

They are quite different despite both being action adventures. Mana is larger, a bit more freeform(somewhat open world in dungeon order, to a minor degree), a slew of weapons and magic to wield for three characters(also co-op).

Combat had issues though. Hit detection was roughshod. Special attacks required charging by holding a button down that grows tedious. Grinding a bit necessary for certain skills/magic(level skills with use like Skyrim). Bosses were impressive but had specific weakness requirements and weren't very flexible in approach. Ys is more polished here, but far more condensed.

Regardless, it's a wondrous game. The adventure is memorable and filled with great enemies and the music is some of the best chip tunes ever produced.

 

[Mcdohl]

Not digging how the 2d translates to 3d here. It certainly looks accurate, but it looks too chibi/cute/kiddy for my taste.

2d for life yo.

 

[Xetherion]

Got no idea what the haters are disliking. It looks bright and simple and wonderful.

Same here!

This was the game that got me into Square games, so hyped for this remake!

 

[Rei dos Vermes]

I never understood what's so appealing about Secret of Mana. I'd rather have a Terranigma remake in the same style.

 

[Easy_D]

The original game is extremely buggy. It's high on my list of games that need a remake just to be playable with peace of mind.
It'll also be nice to play a version of the game where the melody channels in the music don't cut out to play sound effects.

That's actually possible to do on emulator these days, I think someone made an MSU-1 patch with the original music so sound effects wouldn't constantly mess the awesome music up. If they haven't, someone should make one. But it's at least theoretically possible.

 

[momshotdad]

Half Life died so other dreams could live

Half Life 3 died for this.

 

[Garlador]

I screamed.
I audibly screamed.
I woke up everyone in the house.
I don't give a shit.
Holy fuck.
Legend of the Holy Fuck
Day negative one.
Seiken 3 after this, but it needs to do well.
In for Steam.

Don't even mind the voice acting.
We're finally getting a new translation.
The bosses in 3D.
The music remastered.
More people will be able to play this incredible game.

This is the right attitude to have.

 

[Phatcorns]

Pretty surprised at the first page's negative reaction to the art style. I think it looks fucking great! This is way out of left field and I'm totally digging it. Can't wait and not long to wait either!

 

[Ralemont]

The original game was extremely vibrant and full of color and life. These bland, low-poly visuals don't really capture the spirit of the original or look good on their own merits. I mean... there's more detail and realism in the original SNES version:

Look at the care put into the shading on that pixel art to make the architecture look rounded and deep, now look at how flat and plain the actual 3D version looks in comparison. Details like the keystones in the arches are also missing, and the way those bricks awkwardly wrap along that bottom corner is pretty lazy. It just looks cheap as hell and doesn't do justice to the quality of the original art.

The screenshot of the old version is honestly hard to look at. It's blurry and contrary to what you say looks a lot more flat than the new version, to the point where elevation is extremely hard to gauge.

 

[BouncyFrag]

Yay! Will enjoy on my Vita.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

No!

Goddammit... No!

 

[pCeSlAyEr]

so uhhh does it still support coop like on SNES?

 

[DarknessTear]

so uhhh does it still support coop like on SNES?

Yeah, but offline as far as I know.

 

[Phatcorns]

Ohhh my god the Japanese collectors edition. Square Enid store exclusive and no word of us release. What do I do?
http://store.jp.square-enix.com/sp/seiken2_som/index.html

 

[DarknessTear]

Ohhh my god the Japanese collectors edition. Square Enid store exclusive and no word of us release. What do I do?
http://store.jp.square-enix.com/sp/seiken2_som/index.html

DAMN. I want that.

I'd go as far as to use their shitty store to get it.

 

[Peltz]

Crazy how polarizing the game is already just from the art style. I don't know.... I think it's kinda nice even if simple.

 

[Keym]

I like it, even if the low poly models make my eyes bleed a little. Will it still have the wonkiest hit boxes ever designed in a game like the original?

 

[dan2026]

Looks like a cute anime game.
Have they confirmed dual audio?

 

[Lunaray]

Honestly, I'll buy it, but when it's $20.

I'm a little disappointed to see this, knowing that Grezzo and Brownies (studios with Mana pedigree) have both made games with much better looking 3D aesthetics. They should have contracted one of them instead of the Adventures of Mana team.

 

[ForkNetwork]

It could be better, but if this helps get Seiken 3 outside of Japan then I"ll fully support it

 

[Kneefoil]

Wha-? This came out of nowhere.

 

[NoKisum]

Is there something extremely offensive about Seiken 3 that's keeping it from coming West? Like with Mother 3 & the Magypsies?

 

[Anarky]

They should throw some cel shading on this to make it look a bit better

 

[wtd2009]

I was hoping for a more invested upgrade but I think this looks pretty cool regardless. I loved this game in snes so I'm definitely looking forward to this.

They should throw some cel shading on this to make it look a bit better

Something like this would have been very well-suited.

 

[Alec]

I like that they're using "Secret of Mana" as a subtitle for the Japanese version.

 

[Orin GA]

I hope they handle the final weapon orbs better

 

[Radiant Silvertuna]

Did you play the iOS version? They added frames to magic spells so you can't spam, but they completely broke physical attacks. Evade is through the roof so most attacks miss. As opposed to SNES where hit detection was wonky but at least when you landed a hit it didn't miss 90% of the time.

No, I grew up with the SNES cartridge. Replayed it just last month and, man, I like it but the game has issues.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

Fuck. Lol

 

[.Anema]

Wow, looks like shit.
I'll play this again on SNES a month before the release lol.

 

[HStallion]

That art style is not doing the game any favors. Yeesh.

 

[ultra7k]

Day 1 on the Vita for me.

Really had fun with Adventures of Mana on the Vita last year. I imagine this will be better!

 

[Orin GA]

That's a terrible call to make in SoM! Not leveling up your magic leaves you incredibly underleveled when you genuinely need it for bosses that can only be hurt by magic.

Let the magic carry you!

Nah, magic spamming made the game way too easy. So I just stopped using it.

 

[bounchfx]

and still no seiken densetsu 3 in the west
fuck yourself s-e

 

[Raven117]

Not digging how the 2d translates to 3d here. It certainly looks accurate, but it looks too chibi/cute/kiddy for my taste.

2d for life yo.

Yup. agreed. And I love Secret of Mana.

 

[Nohar]

I would have prefered a new (good) Mana game.

Not interested, honestly. Secret of Mana is a gem that didn't really need to be polished. While I appreciate the Goldsmith's work, I'd rather see him making new treasures, assuming he still has the skill to do that.

I am also partial to 2D. The SNES had some fantastic games on it, and nowadays there are quite a couple great games which exalt 2D.

 

[Feep]

How else should it look? It's a classically anime styled fantasy game from the 90s.

I don't know, like someone on the art team gave a shit.

This barely textured, generic, chibi style is hurting more than it's helping.

 

[BasilZero]

I hope this game is successful so they can do the same for seiken densestu 3

 

[red13th]

Super excited at this, day one. I hope they bring Seiken Densetsu 3 too.

 

[PfantzyPantz]

I think it looks great, though I never was able to play the original version despite wanting to. Either way I'm always excited for more cute/colorful RPGs with good music

 

[tsundoku]

if the animation is as bad as the last mana game they shit out on vita then no thanks. Sometimes just a couple sprites and swooshes is so much more expressive then bland tweened models

 

[xmajinjoshx]

Ohhh my god the Japanese collectors edition. Square Enid store exclusive and no word of us release. What do I do?
http://store.jp.square-enix.com/sp/seiken2_som/index.html

I really hope we get this edition!

 

[SuperChoco]

I'm hyped! I'm a sucker for low poly chibi models and the original game, so a definite buy from me!

 

[Contica]

I think I might be getting this on PC. Someone should be able to mod in some proper shading to make it pop a bit more. It just looks so flat. Just look at what proper shading did to FFXII, and it's eady to see how this game could be much prettier without too much work.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

We had this 17 years ago ...

sigh

 

[Lunaray]

We had this 17 years ago ...

sigh

Still one of the prettiest games I've ever played, along with SaGa Frontier 2.

 

[Teknoman]

I just bought an snes multitap too. But I do like the snes visuals more than here. Nice that it's getting a remake though.

 

[nampad]

Vita is dead!

 

[Yukinari]

Capcom and Square really dont like the Switch huh

 

[DarknessTear]

Capcom and Square really dont like the Switch huh

I am Setsuna
Dragon Quest Heroes 1+2
Octopath
Dragon Quest X
Dragon Quest XI
Lost Sphear
Re:Legend
Mana Collection
Dragon Quest Builders 2

Damn it, S-E! How dare you not support the Nintendo Switch!