NFL Week 13 2010 |OT| Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?
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Buckethead
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If I had a nickle for everytime someone said that..... :lolTalon- said:
I know I'm just kidding but other Falconers aren't so legitimate.
sweetvar26
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For the love of god Pats, please win this game tonight.
I don't care if we lose the Bears game and the Packers game, you can go easy on it.
Just don't lose against the Jets.
I don't care if we lose the Bears game and the Packers game, you can go easy on it.
Just don't lose against the Jets.
eznark said:
Bitching about injuries is a common thing to do and I can understand it but when Green Bay can get it done missing a ton pf players and the Pats defense can get it done with practice squad players getting starting roles because we don't have anyone else healthy or not healthy, it comes off as pretty whiny.
DeaconKnowledge
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They fired Josh "We're just trying to win the motherfucking game!" McDaniels?
Ditka's kind of missing a point that winning tonight has no meaning, Jets take a dominating division record lead if they win tonight so Pats can't let them have that. Its the difference between a #1 or #2 seed and playoff homefield or a wildcard spot. Yeah both team's still need to win next week, and the week after etc. but this game does have major implications, a Pats win puts the AFC East back in play, a Jets win essentially locks it up.
Buckethead
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Jay "Herbert" Cutler will be meeting God on December 26th.Mrbob said:
Clearly Peyton Manning sucks. I think about 14 of the 32 starting QBs in the league were 1st rounders. Almost all these guys (with the exception of Matt Cassell) have shown sustained success in college, whether it's Schaub at UVA setting the completion percentage mark, Ben leading the way at Miami of Ohio, Ryan leading subpar talent at BC, etc. Brady and Romo are the exception to the rule.bionic77 said:
I have my doubts about Cam because you simply can't shrug off defenders like that in the NFL (unless it's the 49ers). It's hard to have sustained success when your QB takes a lot of hits. Also, his footwork is really sloppy as Danielson likes to pick on. We'll see, though.
His throwing motion is a lot more natural than Vince's, though. The arm slot is higher.
It's better than Troy Smith's year for sure.eznark said:
Even at that rate, Luck reminds me of Bradford. A greater athlete at the position with a great mind. I give Moore a chance in the NFL because of his accuracy and timing.
The only thing that gives me pause on LaMichael is that he's horrible catching the ball out of the backfield. Stone hands at times - it's really shocking. That said, he has such a powerful lower body, and he's so tough with all that speed that he'll definitely start in the NFL.
Cam's obviously an unknown property considering he's only really played this year.
yankeehater
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Talon- said:
How many QB's are drafted in the 1st round every year? That has got to be a really big pool to pick from, and only 14 are starting. That doesnt seem like that many to me, especially considering how long teams will hold onto a guy before giving up. Hell small hands was still a starter this year.
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bionic77 said:
Pretty much, it is rare to see one that is dominate in college, play in the national championship and actually translate well to the pro game.
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Also it may sound silly but I think the winning of the coin toss is huge in tonights game. :lol
I really think it is going to be a full four quarter affair and whoever starts out the second half is going to be glad they did and whoever starts on that half on defense is going to wish they weren't.
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h1nch said:
Trading Cutler definitely was the correct move. It seems odd in hindsight because he's matured just enough at Chicago to not be an ultra mega douche like he was in Denver. Now he's just a douche.
So like I've said, Cutler trade was good. What was done with the draft picks not so good.
So who's left that needs to get sacked?
Singletary? Anyone else?
Cam might be able to run around college players, but he isn't fast enough to out run NFL players. Also NFL defenders are big and strong and can take him down. I don't see him doing well in the pros unless he becomes an amazing pocket passer.
Edit: What I find funny about the whole Cutler situation is how bad he is considered in Denver as a teammate. Maybe he was that terrible, but ever since he came to the Bears he has been nothing short of gracious with his teammates. Yeah he has the Rivers douche face in public but there has never been any issues his team in Chicago. In fact he gets along well with the rest of the team from all reports. Even with all the sacks he is taking this year he isn't causing any trouble. Maybe it is the smooth pimp hand of Lovie Smith?
Edit: What I find funny about the whole Cutler situation is how bad he is considered in Denver as a teammate. Maybe he was that terrible, but ever since he came to the Bears he has been nothing short of gracious with his teammates. Yeah he has the Rivers douche face in public but there has never been any issues his team in Chicago. In fact he gets along well with the rest of the team from all reports. Even with all the sacks he is taking this year he isn't causing any trouble. Maybe it is the smooth pimp hand of Lovie Smith?
yankeehater
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wienke said:
Kubiack.
I just did a recount. It's 17 (Sanchez, Flacco, Palmer, Roethlisberger, Manning, Young, Campbell, Rivers, Manning, Vick, McNabb, Cutler, Stafford, Rodgers, Ryan, Freeman, Bradford) - admittedly with the Raiders being iffy.yankeehater said:
Henne and Favre were 2nd rounders; McCoy and Schaub 3rd rounders. Orton was a 4th.
My point was that all these guys - even the later round guys - had sustained success in the college ranks. Henne is an all-time great at Michigan. McCoy is arguably the greatest player in Longhorn history (where that ring at?). Orton was a stud at Purdue. Schaub completely 67% of his passes at UVA. And so on.
Of course, this goes for every quarterback. That said, I didn't think he was as fast as Vince until that one play where he just flat outran Peterson in the LSU game. Football speed and whatnot.Mrbob said:
Well considering Orton was feeling up a freshman chick up at Northwestern, there was nowhere to go but up.
I know that last year there were some funny stories about Cutler being a prick at some clubs downtown.
DeaconKnowledge
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TheFatOne said:
Why? It's pretty clear Belicheck doesn't need him.
McDaniels will end up as an O-coordinator somewhere. He's just not head coach material.
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modernkicks said:
That is the easy part! Make with drinking! :lol
yankeehater
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DeaconKnowledge said:
I bet he will be in crazy demand in the off season, there passing attack this year was so good with Orton and no running.
DeaconKnowledge said:
McDaniels is a great offensive coordinator. The Pats have some real playcalling problems that he could fix immediately. Although the offense has been better the last couple of games they struggle making adjustments, and they are predictable at times.
Edit: The stream I was watching just died and it now shows the Tyree catch FML.
DeaconKnowledge
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TheFatOne said:
The Pats were the number 1 (or 2? Can't remember off-hand) offense in the league. They had to make a huge adjustment after losing Moss, and Belicheck has made it clear that he's not interested in letting wandering sheep back to the flock, so I think you're wasting your breath.
I wish we could have had a fly on the wall give us feedback from halftime of yesterday Bears/Lions game. All the Bears fans who say Lovie has no fire or passion or that garbage could have had audio of him ripping the team apart. Players are saying it might have been the most angry Lovie has ever been at the team. Especially the defense. As Briggs says, "Lovie was hot." When you give up 260 yards in the first half to a Drew Stanton lead offense would probably make any head coach mad. Especially the two play 19 second 91 yard drive with under a minute left in the first half. Bears defense only gave up 48 yards in the second half so I guess the message was received!
I suppose this is why players love him as a head coach. He'll never rip them in public. Only behind close doors where no one else can see what is happening.
I suppose this is why players love him as a head coach. He'll never rip them in public. Only behind close doors where no one else can see what is happening.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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So does Tebow get cut next season? Has a first round pick ever been cut after just one season in the NFL? Maybe trading away starting QBs and WRs for a QB who can't throw and a WR who can't catch was a bad idea.
Nah, that's probably just the reason they want to give so they can fire McDaniels with "cause" like Davis did with Kiffin. That way, Bowlen doesn't have to pay two coaches for not coaching.Seda said:
Firing coaches mid-season is the new hotness with the media calling for coaches' heads this year. When Davis did it, it was unheard of and crazy to do it in the regular season (even though there was precedent)! Now, it's all like "they should have done it even sooner!"
Btw- we still have the same HC that came from the mid-season change!
DeaconKnowledge
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I doubt Tebow stays a QB long.
yankeehater
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
No way. They already paid him most of his money, so no point in cutting him.
DeaconKnowledge said:
To give you a specific example look at the Colts game. They dominated the Colts for 3 quarters. In the fourth quarter the play calling was conservative and they almost lost the game because of it. In the Lions game they only played well for 2 quarters. This is the real test for the Pats offense for me. Can they make adjustments in the second half against the Jets. Last year in both games they played terrible in the second half, and this year they played terrible in the second half. The offense can be inconsistent within games.
Edit: You do have a good point though I don't think Belichick will let McDaniels back in.
Buckethead
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WTF at this Burt Scott thing.
yacobod said:
I don't know what to think about Lovie Smith. Yes he has his issues and I don't think he is an elite head coach, but looking at the stats we really can't say he is bad. He is the second most successful coach in Bears history, and actually has one of the best win/loss records for any head coach in the last decade.
I'm more commenting to the people I hear on the radio who always complain Lovie has no fire or passion for the game because he doesn't show emotion or scream on TV. He does but only uses it when it is appropriate but never in front of the camera.
Having said this, I'd go all meat ball and dump Lovie in a second to get the fire and passion coach Bill Cowher.
yankeehater
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Godslay said:
Totally depends on the coach. A lot of coaches are loyal to their guy, or will want to draft a guy since the team is in total rebuild mode.
yankeehater said:
Bowlen will give Tebow a shot after Orton. From what I understand he liked the pick (at the time of course) and has stated that Tebow was the future at QB. Things can change, and they certainly have.
I still think that Bowlen views Tebow in a different light than Orton and Quinn. Specifically, as the future QB of the franchise. Orton and Quinn buy sometime for his development.
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