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[Joeku]

Nvm wrong reply

 

[Diabelli]

Boogie:

What a pathetic defence for an adult. I'm growing severely tired of the social weight these people carry and the juvenile opinions they put out.

Literally PDP's words: "I wanted to find the worst word I can think of"

But, you guys, he doesn't understand...

 

[leeh]

Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.

Well considering I can't see this on Reddit for example, this needs publicity to get this racist twat booted of YouTube.

People forget how many kids look up to this guy and grow up watching people like him these days.

Its appalling. He should have a huge sense of professionalism and not stream like he's a spoiled teenager in a bedroom.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Maximilian should definitely be thrown off YT for using language like that.

It's like these idiots run to twitter/Reddit and get a list of bullet points to regurgitate ad nauseum.

 

[Boke1879]

We all have, I'm saying it's not such a big deal here. It's not nothing, he used it pretty horribly, but we wouldn't start a witch hunt over something like this. Plus, having a word you can't say is kind of weird.

Bottom line, I agree, he shouldn't have said it. It was tactless, it wasn't funny. And that's all there is to it from someone around here.

So what point are you trying to make. You know it's wrong and he knows it's wrong. He knows what it means.

He's 27. He's not ignorant. Stop trying to portray him as someone who's ignorant to the word.

 

[VariantX]

Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.

How bout you just go to another thread and not worry about this one? Moderation will decide when this thread has run it's course. If you don't see anything to discuss then feel free to refrain from pulling the thread back to top of the page complaining about it in a post in said thread.

 

[Toxi]

These top youtubers have to stick together. PDP is the most subbed person on the platform. If everyone calls him out and holds him accountable, then surely whatever consequences befall him is going to set a precedent and create a trickle down effect.

These are the same youtubers who are pissed at WSJ for kicking off the Apocalypse that involved an issue that was sparked by PDP's antics

They know if they don't stand by PDP or at least remain complicit, that it has the means to affect their bottom line and their livelihood.

Wouldn't it be more logical to cut the ball and chain that is PewDiePie when his behavior is threatening their livelihoods?

 

[disappeared]

Ugh, how the fuck is this 41 pages long?

Some idiot said something racist and offensive, should people be angry? Yes. Should he be demonitised? Sure - but ultimately, that's for YouTube to action upon.

I don't see what more there is to discuss, this shit needs to be shut down.

Yep let's all just shut the fuck up and let shit like this continue unabated.

Perfect response. A+ would subscribe again.

 

[Yeoman]

The fuck is Boogie on about here, LMAO. Calling someone a "fucking nigger" is personal politics? Alright then.

You mean people might not be able to make money playing computer games in front of their webcam?
How terrifying!!

I've said it previously - YouTubers/streamers are some of the most toxic people on the internet. The fact that they have managed to convince people that what they do is worthwhile and actually takes any sort of hard work is fucking laughable.
There is nothing that either Boogie or PewDiePie does that takes any sort of skill or work ethic. They just happened to get lucky.

 

[JohnMatrix]

I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

He's a media personality with a global audience, one of the biggest there is and has made tons of money doing it over several years... faux pas is no excuse especially for something as obvious as that

 

[CaptainClaw]

We all have, I'm saying it's not such a big deal here. It's not nothing, he used it pretty horribly, but we wouldn't start a witch hunt over something like this. Plus, having a word you can't say is kind of weird.

Bottom line, I agree, he shouldn't have said it. It was tactless, it wasn't funny. And that's all there is to it from someone around here.

How about you go up to a Black guy and say that word..I dare you, I double dare you

 

[Soul of the Beast]

What is it that makes people wanna defend this shit?

People that are a little edgy and twisted inside don't want to feel like they are the bad guys, so instead they call everyone an SJW and act like those are the real evil.

I will admit, I was annoyed by some aggressive leftist a few years ago and there was a time I really dislike the ''SJWs'', but I've changed a lot since then.

The more I see, the more I realized how ignorant and wrong I was, those alt-right gets ''triggered'' even more than leftist and their reason are fucking pathetic. The more I hear from them the more I realize how fucking wrong I was, and I am so glad I didn't turn myself into one of them when I was younger.

Internet celebs are now making the alt-right look like the good guys and the left look like the bad guys, and people are actually buying into it.
You Americans really need to look into that, this is pretty serious, the fact that Trump won the election should be the biggest red flag.

 

[Interface23]

Trust me, if this story doesn't get traction youtube won't. do. shit.

Youtube won't do anything, Advertisers will though so unfortunately this will also fall upon actual decent guys like PBG, Jared and SpaceHamster as well as actual assholes

 

[Bold One]

When you have a lot of black friends sometimes it just happens.
They say it all the damn time it's only natural to repeat what you hear.

It just rolls off the tongue.

Oftentimes its not even meant to be racists even though it's of racist origins.
But most people 100% ignore that.

I don't even...

 

[excelsiorlef]

Wouldn't it be more logical to cut the ball and chain that is PewDiePie when his behavior is threatening their livelihoods?

That would require integrity

 

[OG Loc]

The fuck is Boogie on about here, LMAO. Calling someone a "fucking nigger" is personal politics? Alright then.

This puss ass punk here, I swear. The only thing scary is how he always finds a way to fucking straddle that fence. The boy needs a backbone.

 

[tobactrac]

I mean yeah, he's an idiot, but using that word doesn't automatically mean that you find black people lesser and/or inferior. It's not such a big deal in Scandinavia. It's tactless, but it's just his shitty humor.

Ok. Maybe it's possible that casually using racial epithets in Scandinavia ain't "such a big deal" to the people living there because the people living there aren't just "tactless," but, you know, racist?

 

[SomedayTheFire]

We all have, I'm saying it's not such a big deal here. It's not nothing, he used it pretty horribly, but we wouldn't start a witch hunt over something like this. Plus, having a word you can't say is kind of weird.

Bottom line, I agree, he shouldn't have said it. It was tactless, it wasn't funny. And that's all there is to it from someone around here.

Yoo holy shit

 

[Gluka]

Well it's time for youtube, twitch and all these places to take responsibility for what their creators use their services for. Close channels, delete videos, withdraw support.

Take a god damned stand you cowards.

The best part is that it's almost always indies who come out and do it despite being the most vulnerable to brigading, harassment and other bullshit tactics used by the alt-right. Google, Valve, Twitch, etc. don't give a single shit about their platforms regularly being used to espouse bigotry while they would suffer virtually no consequence from actually caring enough to stamp it out. I mean, Jesus, we're lucky if they even make an empty statement about shit like this.

 

[ReplacementPelican]

There is no excuse for threat of violence, even if in character.
There is no excuse for racial slurs, even if in "heated gaming moments"
Fuck this excuses, what's wrong with people.

Because people are fucking stupid. I honestly can't believe I'm watching people defend the use of this word.

I think what it really betrays is that some people here must say these words in their own person time, in their own lives or whilst playing games and just hand-wave it as 'I'm not racist, I'm just a big kidder.' The thing is, even if that is the case and you want to hand-wave this dude because you do it yourself: would you do it in public? Would you do it whilst streaming? Would you do it at work? Obviously the answer is 'no' but we see so many people lose sight of the fact that this streaming malarkey is that to people like Felix, its a job and its incredibly public. Even worse, you're teaching children and young people (I can't imagine any adults actually watch him, he doesn't seem to aim for that demographic) that its okay to say that word.

The thing is it isn't even like he's had a clear run. He's already been accused of antisemitism and we all know the numerous scandals because of things he's said.

The issue is that people are quick to dismiss shit about people they like or people they watch.

Its insane and people like Boogie are really just making it worse. He can call out Neogaf because there may be a thread that calls him out for his bullshit but can't call out somebody for using a racial epithet?

Okay Boogie. How about you talk to the Neogaf hive mind about this. Maybe we'll learn something, maybe you'll learn something (like not defending racists). Wouldn't that be swell? Because the middle is a great place to be and in the middle, we usually don't defend racists.

 

[Oblivion]

I mean, he's technically not wrong about the politics thing.

If you're of the opinion that saying the n-word isn't a bad thing, then you clearly align with a very specific political party.

 

[Fat4all]

I mean, he's technically not wrong about the politics thing.

If you're of the opinion that saying the n-word isn't a bad thing, then you clearly align with a very certain political party.

indeed

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Well his youtube channel is not restricted to Scandinavia

This is just it. He produces content for a global market, which I bet a majority of are from the USA. I don't expect him to consider every cultural nuance before he speaks so as not to offend anyone, because that's unreasonable, but not saying words which you know are 100% demeaning and racist is a pretty damn obvious thing to consider. Easy, even.

Edit: Damn the mods are on fire in this thread. Well done.

 

[VariantX]

The best part is that it's almost always indies who come out and do it despite being the most vulnerable to brigading, harassment and other bullshit tactics used by the alt-right. Google, Valve, Twitch, etc. don't give a single shit about their platforms regularly being used to espouse bigotry while they would suffer virtually no consequence from actually caring enough to stamp it out. I mean, Jesus, we're lucky if they even make an empty statement about shit like this.

It's kind of strange that they do. They don't have the money or resources to defend against this and usually they're among the first to put their foot down and say unequivocally that it's not ok.

 

[Eric the Red]

When you have a lot of black friends sometimes it just happens.
They say it all the damn time it's only natural to repeat what you hear.

It just rolls off the tongue.

Oftentimes its not even meant to be racists even though it's of racist origins.
But most people 100% ignore that.

Really? A lot of your black friends say it with a hard "R?" Also they use it as an insult?

 

[Glitter and Gold]

I wonder what the venn diagram would look like between people excusing PDP here and thinking it's not a big deal vs people absolutely livid over that one journalist playing cuphead last week

 

[Mass Effect]

I think you must have misunderstood my post. Here's an excellent post by someone else articulating what I meant:

I see. Well, that's a sentiment I can understand.

I originally thought you meant that nobody should be allowed to use the variation at all, including black people, in which case that would have not gone over well.

At least he didn't type (((NeoGAF))).

eh... what?

I'm afraid I'm out of the loop on this

oh, it's a Soros reference.

 

[ScientificPizza]

The fuck is Boogie on about here, LMAO. Calling someone a "fucking nigger" is personal politics? Alright then.

yeah boogie is truly a piece of shit. too much has been reduced to just "politics" as a way to hide the terrible things people have said and done

i wasn't expecting this to be the instance where he grew a spine, though. that dudes allergic to having any kind of conviction and loves feeling smug as hell about it

At least he didn't type (((NeoGAF))).

is echoing still even a thing?

 

[SolidChamp]

Here's the thing...

If you don't denounce racists then that means you are comfortable with other people being racist. Therefore:

• It means you are enabling them to be racist again, and again, and again.
• It means you are ok with the fact that people who are the targets of said racism have to continually endure the mental/physical scars and suffering of racism.
• It means you prefer the targets of said racist behaviour feel uncomfortable instead of challenging those who are racist and making them feel uncomfortable... God forbid you question the racists and make them feel uncomfortable.

I'm sorry to say, but that makes you racist. There is no "both sides" argument to any of this. This is a scenario where it is impossible to be neutral.

Constantly quote this man for truth, people!

 

[PhantomThief]

I mean, he's technically not wrong about the politics thing.

If you're of the opinion that saying the n-word isn't a bad thing, then you clearly align with a very specific political party.

Yeah Nazi's and klansman.

 

[besada]

Really? A lot of your black friends say it with a hard "R?" Also they use it as an insult?

Man, that dude was literally banned yesterday at this point. Did you really think no one had addressed this particular point yet?

 

[Armaros]

I see. Well, that's a sentiment I can understand.

I originally thought you meant that nobody should be allowed to use the variation at all, including black people, in which case that would have not gone over well.



eh... what?

I'm afraid I'm out of the loop on this

oh, it's a Soros reference.

its actually a way neo-nazi's use to label Jews or Jewish sympathizers for easier recongition

 

[Fat4all]

eh... what?

I'm afraid I'm out of the loop on this

oh, it's a Soros reference.

yep, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses

 

[Saya]

I hope his sponsors will leave him asap.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

It's kind of strange that they do. They don't have the money or resources to defend against this and usually they're among the first to put their foot down and say unequivocally that it's not ok.

Because they don't have any companie leads, heads and CEOs behind them telling them "it's not worth it for the revenue (and bad press among today's "gamers" outlets)". Which is just sad, but yeah.

 

[tobactrac]

I wonder what the venn diagram would look like between people excusing PDP here and thinking it's not a big deal vs people absolutely livid over that one journalist playing cuphead last week

Lol. I'll just say that the cuphead circle will be ever so slightly offset from total eclipse on my behalf.

 

[hEist]

unbelievable there is a defense force for everything here on gaf.

@topic: a human piece of shit. nothing more. And everyone who defends this is also one.

 

[NHarmonic.]

The fuck is Boogie on about here, LMAO. Calling someone a "fucking nigger" is personal politics? Alright then.

Absolute scum, holy shit.

What a toxic opinion, why are this people "famous"? Are children that fucking stupid? or is this the rise of the alt right and the politically incorrect edgelords?

 

[Fret]

Well considering I can't see this on Reddit for example, this needs publicity to get this racist twat booted of YouTube.

This has a huge thread on reddit

 

[Isaac Otherworld]

I see. Well, that's a sentiment I can understand.

I originally thought you meant that nobody should be allowed to use the variation at all, including black people, in which case that would have not gone over well.



eh... what?

I'm afraid I'm out of the loop on this

oh, it's a Soros reference.

(((x))) is an alt-right and nazi code for jewish person or organization.

 

[Mass Effect]

its actually a way neo-nazi's use to label Jews or Jewish sympathizers for easier recongition

yep, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses

Ah, so that's what it actually means. I've seen it around, usually in reference to Soros and crazy altright conspiracy theories, and I never quite understood what it meant. Now I know.

 

[Chubby Rain]

It's absolutely shocking how some (who have been rightly banned) stoop so low to defend racism.

At times I wonder what they won't defend when someone's clearly in the wrong.
If I had to take a guess, it begins and ends with issues that effect them.

Sad really.

 

[DorkLord54]

Just read all 82 pages of this thread and caught myself up. Holy fuck.

Anyways, this shit ain't surprising. Ever since getting his show cancelled and his deal with Disney pulled, he's decided to defend Trump, defend a Polish MP's sexist tirade, befriend Carl of Swindon, use 'f*g', 'gay', and 'retard' without remorse, and casually use 'autistic' as a slur. This is just the culmination of all this horrid shit he's said since the WSJ piece.

And yeah, I'm not surprised Boogie's trying to defend this, dude has yet to find a fence that has enough voltage to deter him from sitting on it. Not to mention he's from the South, meaning he knows the word is indefensible.

 

[xxracerxx]

The fuck is Boogie on about here, LMAO. Calling someone a "fucking nigger" is personal politics? Alright then.

This is fucking disgusting.

 

[John Rabbit]

Imagine if racists had the same obstinate attitude toward being told not to drink poison as they do about not being "allowed" to say a specific word.

 

[Jobbs]

The fuck is Boogie on about here, LMAO. Calling someone a "fucking nigger" is personal politics? Alright then.

in fairness, he didn't just leave it at that

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Just read all 82 pages of this thread and caught myself up. Holy fuck.

I'll probably do this when the posts slow down. I first found the thread at page 80 so it's been moving too fast to catch up haha.

 

[ScientificPizza]

in fairness, he didn't just leave it at that

This reads better in full context but why even bring up personal politics if he knows this isn't personal politics?

Boogie can still fuck himself

 

[kurahador]

I'll probably do this when the posts slow down. I first found the thread at page 80 so it's been moving too fast to catch up haha.

Mods be like:

 

[sld]

We all have, I'm saying it's not such a big deal here. It's not nothing, he used it pretty horribly, but we wouldn't start a witch hunt over something like this. Plus, having a word you can't say is kind of weird.

Bottom line, I agree, he shouldn't have said it. It was tactless, it wasn't funny. And that's all there is to it from someone around here.

Get the fuck out. I'm Scandinavian and IT IS a big deal here. Don't listen to this shit, the only people using the N word in Sweden are racist, ignorant fuckwads. It's frowned upon by everyone with a functioning brain.