Boogie's always taken his mighty Libertarian stance on virtually all political content-creator drama. Ain't got a backbone / he's too worried he'd alienate the portion of his audience he fostered by echoing the same loud, obnoxious, stereotypical gamer nonsense. Dude's got anxiety about getting involved in this stuff, but he sure as hell won't shut up.
PewDiePie calls someone a "fucking n****r" during PUBG livestream
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Boogie's always taken his mighty Libertarian stance on virtually all political content-creator drama. Ain't got a backbone / he's too worried he'd alienate the portion of his audience he fostered by echoing the same loud, obnoxious, stereotypical gamer nonsense. Dude's got anxiety about getting involved in this stuff, but he sure as hell won't shut up.
The à¹ÛBronx
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In fairness he says:
To defend one of the largest online adult personalities saying the n-word casually as a directed insult.
It's pathetic.
BreezyLimbo
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in fairness, he didn't just leave it at that
he could delete the tweet
which he can
boogies 'ISN'T IT NICE IF WE COULD MEET IN THE MIDDLE' bullshit is blatant as hell
TheSporkWithin
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No, there's an enormous difference in experience and intent there. That said I do know a great number of black people who do not appreciate its usage even by people within that circle, and I know that at least one reason they hold for condemning its use is the fact that it continues to allow other people to think that there are situations in which its use is acceptable. (as we've seen in this very thread, by people saying "wow, he didn't even say n****a")
Subpar Scrub
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Mods be like:
I know, just what I've seen of the last few pages have been insane. Literally refresh, see stupid post, wait 10 seconds, refresh again, banned.
It really shouldn't need to be clarified here (Unfortunately it does), but thanks for the post I'll refer to when people say "He's not American, he doesn't get it!"
John Rabbit
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Unless I need special glasses to see the tweet where he unambiguously said that racism is wrong, using racial epithets is wrong, and that PDP should face negative consequences for his actions, all I'm seeing is continued equivocating cowardice.
The easy solution for racism is to not be a goddamned racist.
Pathfinder
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He's like the Paul Ryan of YouTubers.
excelsiorlef
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in fairness, he didn't just leave it at that
He literally both sides himself lol
Sailent
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*youtuber says something racist/misogynistic/lgbtphobic*
My thoughts exactly.
For me is intantaneous to assume that a youtuber will always be a shithead. Unless proven wrong.
Isaac Otherworld
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You knew it was just a matter of time for PDP to drop the N-word when he started hanging out with Sargon and screaming about how "S-jews" in the mainstream media are out to get him.
Because there isn't an in-between.
Glitter and Gold
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in fairness, he didn't just leave it at that
No fairness deserved.
He's making a slippery slope argument in response to a clear and cut use of a racial slur. Something that's been frowned upon by society at large for the entire time most of us participating in this conversation have been alive.
It's not setting a precedent for anything further down the road besides other shitheads being punished for using slurs on stream in spite of their influence and popularity.
NHarmonic.
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in fairness, he didn't just leave it at that
lol then why make that point right now?
btw Is this the "middle ground" dude, from the gif?
I know you're banned, but stop spreading lies about Sweden. If you're a prominent figure and use the equivalent word we have in that kind of context then you're in big trouble.
Not that it matters where he's from anyway, he's as much of a scum regardless.
Interface23
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Like how could you be in between on that? Overt racism is bad but lowkey racism is ok? I'm not sure how it isn't you're either racist or not...
Nabs
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The one and only.
ReplacementPelican
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No. Bullshit.in fairness, he didn't just leave it at that
This was his reaction then he realised it was hand-waving racism. You can't take it out of context when it's literally a response to Felix using the n-word. That's the context. Don't let him wriggle out of his initial response to someone saying that word.
excelsiorlef
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Umm yeah.
The fuck? What would a in-between look like?
Subpar Scrub
Banned
That's fairly ridiculous, in my opinion.
The total number of people who use YouTube - 1,300,000,000.
John Rabbit
Banned
They DMCA'd his Firewatch videos because he used the n-word on a livestream and has a platform of thousands of viewers.
I'm not gonna cry about Campo Santo not being on board with a racist.
The à¹ÛBronx
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Except, as I quoted in the post you're replying to, he said:
"It is also disappointing that perhaps he and others do not fully understand the weight those kind of words carry and the damage they can do."
How is that about the DMCA and future ramifications? How is that not about the use of the n-word.
When I read the Firewatch tweet I had a similar thought. I won't lose any sleep over people taking down PDP's videos, but purely as an intellectual matter I wondered if it's an appropriate use of the DMCA claim. I haven't made up my mind about it, but clearly I'm not alone as there is a separate thread on Neogaf dedicated to it.
Wow. People are so much more afraid of being called racists than they are of actually being racist, huh.
The solution is to acknowledge that people who don't take a stance against racism encourage it.
There ain't no "in-between" and there never was.
Intheflorsh
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Ah Boogie, you never fail to be a disappointing person. :/
TheSporkWithin
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What in-between is there? "I'm okay with racism"? That's just racism. "I don't like racism but I'm not gonna do anything about people I like being racist"? That can be reduced to "I'm okay with racism," which, as previously established, is racism.
I guess there's also "I wish this would just go away so that I can keep on ignoring the malignant sickness which has been growing in the underbelly of my country for centuries," but that's an extremely privileged view to have, and, again, really means "I'm okay with racism as long as I don't see it or have it shoved in front of me." Which is, again, racism.
disappeared
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It's funny because alcoholism is already its own destructive/poisonous path. The surprising thing about recovering alcoholics is that they typically come out the other end as good and understanding people.
What? Racism is wrong my dude. This shit isn't hard.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Cross that bridge when we come to it imo. Any argument now only serves to excuse and protect PDP.
ScientificPizza
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i have zero expectations for that dude and he still fails to meet them
Messofanego
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in fairness, he didn't just leave it at that
"I would edit if I could"
This dude acts like you can't delete your tweets and make a better statement. He acts like Twitter is at fault for not allowing him to edit tweets after the fact, despite being familiar with how the service works for years.
Actually, he keeps the tweets for those impressions and views.
He deserves no fairness.
That post shouldn't need a '/s'.
Isaac Otherworld
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PDP is a piece of shit, but Boogie is just the most pathetic person I've ever seen. "Sure Felix is a racist but those people over there are too not racist and that's just as bad. We need to get back to the middle and be just the right amount of racist."
Like I can see the "Look this has nothing to do with me and I don't want to get involved and comment on stuff." It's spineless but whatever. But going out of your way to insert yourself into the conversation while refusing to take a side or acknowledge anything about the situation is just pathetic. There's no other word for it.
Like I can see the "Look this has nothing to do with me and I don't want to get involved and comment on stuff." It's spineless but whatever. But going out of your way to insert yourself into the conversation while refusing to take a side or acknowledge anything about the situation is just pathetic. There's no other word for it.
Soul of the Beast
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Mods be like:
I hope the mods gets paid well, monitoring a thread like this can be very time consuming and unhealthy. They did a great job.
Professor Beef
Banned
Not all subjects have a grey area. Sometimes it really is as simple as black and white (no pun intended).
I just read his argument, and although I understand where he's going, I don't agree.
If I write a song and I see someone I don't agree with use it for their personal gain, I'll be asking them to stop using it/ file a claim against its use. (Let's say Richard Spencer is using "Born in the USA" to kick off his rallies, I'm pretty sure Springsteen is sending a Cease and Desist letter).
If I made a game and someone is using n-bombs or other racist/sexist/demeaning language, I'd want them banned or booted off the game. Same would apply to streamers.
ScaryShark
Banned
Seriously. Boogie seems harmless enough but then anytime something remotely like this happens he reveals himself to be a shithead.
NHarmonic.
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Of course it is. So this is the champion of the "let's talk with racists and find some middleground, because racism is DEFINITELY something where there's an in between". Fuck him.
Sometimes i really feel ashamed of identifying as a gamer or even enjoying this medium. How could something so interesting and fun be tainted by a big part of the community so fucking toxic, moronic and immature?
Plus, what's he complaining about DMCA for when concerning streaming video games and let's plays? It always seemed they get a good deal not having their shit taken down by copyright, because their work is hardly transformative, and they make bank off of it. If the industry wants to challenge that because of fucks like PDP, and they have come to that decision even knowing potential revenue loss, then tough cookies. "Scary"... fucking hell.
Scores of other junior members in this thread have made these types of posts in a serious, non-sarcastic manner.
In this thread, yes, it needs a /s.
ScientificPizza
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TheSporkWithin
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They consider their work to be transformative. Note the use of "we creators" in that thread.
Big Green Anus
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I really saddens me the the younger generation likely is going to be more racist than older generation due to these like this. Him and so many others like him are normalizing this for kids 
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