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[NHarmonic.]

I meant he is in general aiming for attention. He definitely did not mean to use that word there and we all know that.


Foremost, I have insisted at every turn the usage of this word is always wrong. Pewdiepie is immature but for me to say he is a racist, he needs to earnestly wish for the downfall or detriment of one race he considers beneath his own. To him, this word has no weight. He uses it in the exact same way kids use "jew" as learned from South Park. To them the word has been disarmed when they use it casually amongst friends. He does not consider it a weighted word because he is ignorant. He isn't saying it intentionally, constantly, to offend you and flaunt his freedom to say it.

That's all I have time for today. Let's see what Pewdiepie includes in the inevitable apology/racist-tirade video.

Lol, so racism doesn't exist.

I mean you need more proof after this whole ordeal, really? that's the fight you want to support here? lol

Do you spit the n-word in teamspeak or when you hit your toe with the sofa's corner? If not, why are you defending this shit? or you feel identified?

 

[Bastables]

I meant he is in general aiming for attention. He definitely did not mean to use that word there and we all know that.


Foremost, I have insisted at every turn the usage of this word is always wrong. Pewdiepie is immature but for me to say he is a racist, he needs to earnestly wish for the downfall or detriment of one race he considers beneath his own. To him, this word has no weight. He uses it in the exact same way kids use "jew" as learned from South Park. To them the word has been disarmed when they use it casually amongst friends. He does not consider it a weighted word because he is ignorant. He isn't saying it intentionally, constantly, to offend you and flaunt his freedom to say it.

That's all I have time for today. Let's see what Pewdiepie includes in the inevitable apology/racist-tirade video.

Yeah I mean all we have to judge him is "jokes" about death to jews, using nazi imagery, and saying fucking niggers, and immediately trying to change the latter to fucking asshole. But we don't know if his soul is racist...
All we have to judge him are a history of his words and actions let's not rush to judge.

 

[Dirtyshubb]

This whole 'how can you say for certain he is racist' idea reminds me of the situation with Trump.

If you look at all of his actions and beliefs you could easily argue he is a fascist looking to create a dictatorship. Every action can be compared to the rise of nazi Germany yet for many people, even suggesting this is hyperbolic.

For them, he would literally have to come out and say "we a fascist regime now" for them to finally agree.

It's the same shit with racism, always pushing the line further back until the only distinction is full on genocide and everyone else.

If that's how you feel you seriously need to fucking think about your logic and try to get a better understanding of how shit really works.

 

[KingSnake]

He definitely did not mean to use that word there and we all know that.

What is the context in which "fucking n****r" is even remotely acceptable? Or neutral. Or something that someone would say by mistake? How can you say by mistake something so vile?

The fact that he says this so often that his brain has it as the go to expression makes him a clear racist.

 

[PhantomThief]

Here's a link to Boogie's speech about tolerating bigots:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/174149200?t=32m51s

"If you were a straight white man, you had to learn to tolerate the African Americans who moved into your neighborhood...but along with that came the fact that you would also be tolerated...everyone would be tolerated, even people who were wrong, even people who were bigoted"

The equating of tolerating bigotry with tolerating being a human who isn't white really is some boogie-level shit.

Fuck this piece of shit

 

[Gnome Scat]

This is one of my favorite posts on GAF:

I really like that one, thanks for sharing. Makes me reconsider being hesitant to acknowledge this as an act of racism.

Reading through more of the posts and positions on here shed some light on a misconception I may have with how racism can manifest itself in people. I'm so used to seeing it thrown at much bigger people for much more blatant acts and words that it diminishes the everyday, casual racism that can just as effectively keep it alive. It's harder for me to see that as clearly coming from the outside, because when you aren't the target or the collateral of those kinds of words it becomes easier to dismiss this sort of behavior as something lesser than it actually is. If I personally don't think it's okay to say the n-word because it is inherently racist, then why should I alter my own rationalization to accommodate others?

 

[Mass_Pincup]

I meant he is in general aiming for attention. He definitely did not mean to use that word there and we all know that.

But then that's against what you previously said. If he didn't want to use that word it's because he knows the impact the word has.

 

[BumblebeeCody]

What the fuck, haha.
“tolerate“ is also such a wrong choice of word for that. “I have chosen to allow black people to live in my neighbourhood“.
Yeesh, not a good look for boogie there


Wasn't that by accident and then followed by an apology? Didnt follow it myself but from what I heard at least. Not really “the same thing“

It was yeah. You can tell Max was sincere. But the point is that people on here have brought up arguments about "he must be racist if he accidentally said this since it must be a part of his daily life". Even if we don't use Max as an example, someone like Mayweather uses an insult against gays and nothing happened. Not even an apology.

 

[jiiikoo]

I meant he is in general aiming for attention. He definitely did not mean to use that word there and we all know that.


Foremost, I have insisted at every turn the usage of this word is always wrong. Pewdiepie is immature but for me to say he is a racist, he needs to earnestly wish for the downfall or detriment of one race he considers beneath his own. To him, this word has no weight. He uses it in the exact same way kids use "jew" as learned from South Park. To them the word has been disarmed when they use it casually amongst friends. He does not consider it a weighted word because he is ignorant. He isn't saying it intentionally, constantly, to offend you and flaunt his freedom to say it.

That's all I have time for today. Let's see what Pewdiepie includes in the inevitable apology/racist-tirade video.

Yes, go and keep your ear to the ground! Wouldn't want to miss innocent by-standers being called racists!

 

[King Tubby]

"If you were a straight white man, you had to learn to tolerate the African Americans who moved into your neighborhood...but along with that came the fact that you would also be tolerated...everyone would be tolerated, even people who were wrong, even people who were bigoted"

Just to keep on this quote from Boogie, because it's so fucking insane, white people were so intolerant of having anything to do with African Americans that the Federal government had to call in the national guard to protect children who were going to school.

The Problem We All Live With, Norman Rockwell, 1964

They formed White Citizens' Councils because the very idea of having to live side by side with black people was so abhorrent to them.

People didn't just "learn to tolerate." The Federal Government had to step in and protect people. There had to be legal consequences imposed. If he had an iota of awareness about ANY of these issues, he wouldn't say anything so mindbogglingly stupid. But he doesn't, so maybe he should educate himself before he opens his mouth to speak.

 

[PhantomThief]

Wanna make it clear I'm not defending (or hating PDP).

I think what he did was shitty but it's not a clear "he is a racist". The same thing happened to Maximilian earlier this year and people really shat on him for that.




You can't really hate Boogie but he often adds nothing to the discussion. The way people are addressing Boogie even on here is pretty disgusting.

You cant hate boogie? For defending racists?

Why not? He only cares about something if it personally involves him. He is a straight piece of shit.

You dont think Pewdiepie is a racist after multiple times shouting the n-word and showing lack of empathy or care about anything he says.

You are normalising this bullshit. Take a long good look at yourself bro.

 

[Merc_]

Foremost, I have insisted at every turn the usage of this word is always wrong. Pewdiepie is immature but for me to say he is a racist, he needs to earnestly wish for the downfall or detriment of one race he considers beneath his own. To him, this word has no weight. He uses it in the exact same way kids use "jew" as learned from South Park. To them the word has been disarmed when they use it casually amongst friends. He does not consider it a weighted word because he is ignorant. He isn't saying it intentionally, constantly, to offend you and flaunt his freedom to say it.

That's all I have time for today. Let's see what Pewdiepie includes in the inevitable apology/racist-tirade video.

No, the limit is not genocide for being a fucking racist. Once again, he is a grown man not a child. He knows better and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. It's funny to me how you keep trying to pretend you aren't a racist apologist even though everyone is calling you out on it because your motives are so transparent. You're not saying anything new we haven't heard from the countless other apologists before you.

As I already said, you're not fooling anyone.

 

[Gestault]

Foremost, I have insisted at every turn the usage of this word is always wrong. Pewdiepie is immature but for me to say he is a racist, he needs to earnestly wish for the downfall or detriment of one race he considers beneath his own. To him, this word has no weight. He uses it in the exact same way kids use "jew" as learned from South Park. To them the word has been disarmed when they use it casually amongst friends. He does not consider it a weighted word because he is ignorant. He isn't saying it intentionally, constantly, to offend you and flaunt his freedom to say it.

I give your prevarication a 6.5/10. Please try harder next time, I know you have it in you. Maybe just a little more moral consternation before introducing your conclusion, and I think people might buy it. Right now it's a little too obvious that your argument is an attempt to rationalize an aspect of yourself, and no one wants to see that.

 

[13ruce]

I meant he is in general aiming for attention. He definitely did not mean to use that word there and we all know that.


Foremost, I have insisted at every turn the usage of this word is always wrong. Pewdiepie is immature but for me to say he is a racist, he needs to earnestly wish for the downfall or detriment of one race he considers beneath his own. To him, this word has no weight. He uses it in the exact same way kids use "jew" as learned from South Park. To them the word has been disarmed when they use it casually amongst friends. He does not consider it a weighted word because he is ignorant. He isn't saying it intentionally, constantly, to offend you and flaunt his freedom to say it.

That's all I have time for today. Let's see what Pewdiepie includes in the inevitable apology/racist-tirade video.

Well he is 27 right now your example are kids or young teens doing it before being educated about the words or looking up the meaning.

PDP is famous, speaks natively English is full adult so there is no single excuse to say the word, especialy not in the way he did intending to offend someone with t on purpose he knew he fucked up right after. At that age a person should full well know what the n word and other racial slurs mean or are.

It was a racistic action.

 

[Seesaw15]

For those who want a preview of what H3H3's opinion is going to be:

Here is an 8 minute clip from H3H3 Podcast from Sept. 9th where Ethan outlines his political views. It basically boils down to both sides causing divide and Ethan being the real victim in the end.

Ethan just sounds like he was one of those liberals/progressives/allies who liked it better when minority groups were quite but now that "SJW's" are being vocal and demanding change he's being "forced" into the center.

So if he makes a video it's gonna be about the mainstream media and the SJW's overreacting about free comedy speech.

 

[Mael]

Wanna make it clear I'm not defending (or hating PDP).

I think what he did was shitty but it's not a clear "he is a racist". The same thing happened to Maximilian earlier this year and people really shat on him for that.

And here we are with the very reason some of you want to avoid condemning racists :
- it happened to someone else and it could happen to me!
You're pretty transparent.

You can't really hate Boogie but he often adds nothing to the discussion. The way people are addressing Boogie even on here is pretty disgusting.

Maybe if Boogie wasn't going to bat for people who advocate for ethnic cleansing people wouldn't hate him?
I don't know, no one force the guy to open his mouth about it.
He was pretty silent when women were getting harassed out of the internet.

 

[Nanashrew]

Here's a link to Boogie's speech about tolerating bigots:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/174149200?t=32m51s

"If you were a straight white man, you had to learn to tolerate the African Americans who moved into your neighborhood...but along with that came the fact that you would also be tolerated...everyone would be tolerated, even people who were wrong, even people who were bigoted"

The equating of tolerating bigotry with tolerating being a human who isn't white really is some boogie-level shit.

Maybe he should read up on the paradox of tolerance. If you cannot be intolerant of intolerance such as being against racism, then you allow racism to win and you helped them win by defending them with your tolerance.

 

[KayMote]

Here's a link to Boogie's speech about tolerating bigots:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/174149200?t=32m51s

"If you were a straight white man, you had to learn to tolerate the African Americans who moved into your neighborhood...but along with that came the fact that you would also be tolerated...everyone would be tolerated, even people who were wrong, even people who were bigoted"

The equating of tolerating bigotry with tolerating being a human who isn't white really is some boogie-level shit.

Uff, reading the chat during his little "Am I bad person for tolerating racism :'( ?" speech makes perfectly clear how impressionable these people really are who are looking up to their favorite Youtube stars. Makes it all the more clear how much of a responsibility they have and therefore what a huge fuck up PDPs mistake really was...

 

[hbkdx12]

Wanna make it clear I'm not defending (or hating PDP).

I think what he did was shitty but it's not a clear "he is a racist". The same thing happened to Maximilian earlier this year and people really shat on him for that.

Can you explain how the situation in question (him being frustrated while shooting another player) warrants him using the phrase "What a fucking nigger"? Like, what about that circumstance intrinsically ties it to the use of the slur? Where is the connotation?

You can't really hate Boogie but he often adds nothing to the discussion. The way people are addressing Boogie even on here is pretty disgusting.

Boogie, like a lot of other youtubers that have chimed in, are doing a ton of circle jerking and double speak and it should be called out.

 

[mjp2417]

It was yeah. You can tell Max was sincere. But the point is that people on here have brought up arguments about "he must be racist if he accidentally said this since it must be a part of his daily life". Even if we don't use Max as an example, someone like Mayweather uses an insult against gays and nothing happened. Not even an apology.

http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/...-for-calling-mcgregor-homophobic-slur-w497324

 

[excelsiorlef]

Wanna make it clear I'm not defending (or hating PDP).

I think what he did was shitty but it's not a clear "he is a racist". The same thing happened to Maximilian earlier this year and people really shat on him for that.




You can't really hate Boogie but he often adds nothing to the discussion. The way people are addressing Boogie even on here is pretty disgusting.

Yes you are.

 

[HazySaiyan]

Some of you are acting like PDP is Jackie Chan in Rush Hour or something. He wasn't saying a word he'd heard somewhere, he wasn't even trying to make an edgy joke, he angrily screamed "WHAT A FUCKING N****R" at someone who annoyed him. In his mind the most insulting thing to call someone, the worst thing he could compare someone to was "A FUCKING N****R".

I have no qualms with saying that PDP is a fucking racist piece of shit, and you people caping for him just enable this shitty behaviour and the behaviour of those like him. You should be ashamed.

 

[LotusHD]

Yes you are.

I think they really think that saying "I'm not defending him" magically negates the rest of their post that clearly is defending him or downplaying what he did.

 

[Nanashrew]

Wanna make it clear I'm not defending (or hating PDP).

I think what he did was shitty but it's not a clear "he is a racist". The same thing happened to Maximilian earlier this year and people really shat on him for that.




You can't really hate Boogie but he often adds nothing to the discussion. The way people are addressing Boogie even on here is pretty disgusting.

Beeeee! We're buds, no D:

I mean, he keeps doing this

It was a tumblr blog post of his in 2014 so I don't have a link to it unfortunately. I do remember he said he was "too moderate for GAF" and it's why he still calls out GAF the way he does, like this morning on Twitter.

But in the GG thread he flip flopped a lot and even defended the use of f*g in that thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=130129880&postcount=4023

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=130194374&postcount=4060

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=130195454&postcount=4061

And him saying how he's neutral to the GG situation. He often talked about sides where there were none.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=130235237&postcount=4096

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=130241039&postcount=4108

Then there's that time Boogie made a video defending Jontron and his anti-semitism asking why we all just can't get along.

Boogie just keeps doing the same exact thing over and over.

 

[Tagyhag]

You can't really hate Boogie but he often adds nothing to the discussion. The way people are addressing Boogie even on here is pretty disgusting.

Bullfuckingshit I can't.

He LITERALLY said "I support the rights of racists to be racist."

With that right comes them wanting people like me gone or dead, preferably the latter.

Asshole is more concerned about people calling him overweight than us minorities being killed.

He does add to the discussion. He adds ignorance, empowerment to racists, and poisoning the minds of kids who don't know any better.

Fuck him.

 

[BigDes]

I really like that one, thanks for sharing. Makes me reconsider being hesitant to acknowledge this as an act of racism.

Reading through more of the posts and positions on here shed some light on a misconception I may have with how racism can manifest itself in people. I'm so used to seeing it thrown at much bigger people for much more blatant acts and words that it diminishes the everyday, casual racism that can just as effectively keep it alive. It's harder for me to see that as clearly coming from the outside, because when you aren't the target or the collateral of those kinds of words it becomes easier to dismiss this sort of behavior as something lesser than it actually is. If I personally don't think it's okay to say the n-word because it is inherently racist, then why should I alter my own rationalization to accommodate others?

Just remember, without the causal everyday racism that allows it to propagate and breed; the more odious, violent acts of racism would happen much much less.

There is a reason terms like micro-aggression were created. It is because the normalization of these smaller offences allow the larger ones to take place.

 

[HarryHengst]

You can't really hate Boogie but he often adds nothing to the discussion. The way people are addressing Boogie even on here is pretty disgusting.

Lol yes you can. He literally says 'I tolerate black people' and thinks he is some paragon of virtue.

 

[FaustusMD]

I value everyone's replies and opinions. But I could not believe this is how that post was taken:

What a disgusting thing to say. No, the line for racist behaviour is not genocide. What a horrible, pathetic post.

Since when does "downfall" OR "detriment" mean genocide? Downfall alone doesn't even imply genocide; it would mean a loss of prominence in society how I phrased it. Not its destruction. I even added detriment just to be sure and you took it as genocide. You are only taking that how you wanted to take it. You know I meant he would need to have ill feelings toward another race. There is no way you are that disingenuous as a person to think I meant that.

That's way more than enough for me on the subject of Pewdiepie.

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Whoa. OK I'm out. Gonna go back to that GameCube thread. D:

 

[Andronicus]

so this keemstar dude made a video basically saying if you don't direct it to an actual black person, even in the presence of black people its ok...so basically if a person was to get mad playing a handheld game and say that out loud on a bus/plane in the presence of black people its ok as long as its not being directed at them?

I'm telling you...as a black man that shit isn't going to fly.

am I in the fucking twilight zone?

 

[KingSnake]

Poor Boogie, he is forced to tolerate other races. It must be so difficult for him.

 

[PhantomThief]

It was yeah. You can tell Max was sincere. But the point is that people on here have brought up arguments about "he must be racist if he accidentally said this since it must be a part of his daily life". Even if we don't use Max as an example, someone like Mayweather uses an insult against gays and nothing happened. Not even an apology.

Why are you defending this shit? Why are you normalizing it?

You are gross dude. Take a damn hard look at yourself.

Whoa. OK I'm out. Gonna go back to that GameCube thread. D:

"Oops looks like I got called out on my bullshit, better bail".

 

[kurahador]

Wanna make it clear I'm not defending (or hating PDP).

I think what he did was shitty but it's not a clear "he is a racist". The same thing happened to Maximilian earlier this year and people really shat on him for that.

It's not an issue of you denying what define him, it's that you're okay with saying the N word in a "high intensity" situation.
It's never okay, period.

 

[Zolo]

He does add to the discussion. He adds ignorance, empowerment to racists, and poisoning the minds of kids who don't know any better.

Exactly. He's not fence-sitting.

 

[ken_matthews]

Racism just doesnt exist.

Calling someone a racist word.....just anger.
Stop and frisking a person based on skin color.....just safety precautions.
Thinking other races are less intelligent.....just science.
Denying someone a job cause they are black....just business.
Enslaving a group based on race.....just economics.

So what is racism?

I have mixed feelings about this. 50 years ago in the U.S., the word "racist" was used to describe a particular type of person who thought another race was inferior, and therefore subjugation and unequal treatment were justified. I think our progressive culture necessarily expanded the scope of the word in part because during the 1960s and 1970s racism and racists went underground in many parts of the country; it became covert.

I don't know much about Pewdiepie and his beliefs, but does he actually think black people are inferior? Is what he said necessarily racist, or could it just be bad culture? In no way am I attempting to excuse what he said, instead I am interested in how some of you see this issue.

Bad culture and racism are certainly not mutually exclusive; the latter often follows from the former, but bad culture doesn't always indicate racism. Can you still be a racist if you do not buy into the superiority complex? Does racism even make sense without race supremacy? I think a lot of liberals (and I consider myself liberal) would probably say that the superiority complex is not a requirement to racism, that actions and words are racist based on their effects and outcomes. Maybe, but I don't think I can get entirely behind that. The racists of the 1950s and before are still around, and they are likely lost causes; we should call them out and do everything we can to exact societal penalties for their racist beliefs and actions. But I think a lot of other people simply grew up in insulated communities with bad culture. I think these people can be reached through conversation and education (confirmed by my anecdotal experience), and I think a lot of other liberals feel that way also. If you try to start the conversation with "you're racist" then any real chance to persuade is lost. I think this sort of perspective is why many people across the political spectrum hesitate to shout "that's racist".

 

[AmayaPapaya]

For those who want a preview of what H3H3's opinion is going to be:

Here is an 8 minute clip from H3H3 Podcast from Sept. 9th where Ethan outlines his political views. It basically boils down to both sides causing divide and Ethan being the real victim in the end.

Ethan just sounds like he was one of those liberals/progressives/allies who liked it better when minority groups were quite but not that "SJW's" are being vocal and demanding change he's being "forced" into the center.

So if he makes a video it's gonna be about the mainstream media and the SJW's overreacting about free comedy speech.

This video actually put him in a better light for me (I had a pretty negative opinion of him, beforehand). He still comes off as ignorant, though. I guess that's better than racist, in the end

Spoiler

Wake me up when he finally has the spine to talk about Jon Tron.

 

[Sai-kun]

I have mixed feelings about this. 50 years ago in the U.S., the word “racist” was used to describe a particular type of person who thought another race was inferior, and therefore subjugation and unequal treatment were justified. I think our progressive culture necessarily expanded the scope of the word in part because during the 1960s and 1970s racism and racists went underground in many parts of the country; it became covert.

I don’t know much about Pewdiepie and his beliefs, but does he actually think black people are inferior? Is what he said necessarily racist, or could it just be bad culture? In no way am I attempting to excuse what he said, I am instead interested I how some of you see this issue. Bad culture and racism are certainly not mutually exclusive; the latter often follows from the former, but bad culture doesn’t always indicate racism.

Can you still be a racist if you do not buy into the superiority complex? Does racism even make sense without race supremacy? I think a lot of liberals (and I consider myself liberal) would probably say that the superiority complex is not a requirement to racism, that actions and words are racist based on their effects and outcomes. Maybe, but I don’t think I can get entirely behind that. The racists of the 1950s and before are still around, and they are likely lost causes; we should call them out and do everything we can to exact societal penalties for their racist beliefs and actions. But I think a lot of other people simply grew up in insulated communities with bad culture. I think these people can be reached through conversation and education (confirmed by my anecdotal experience), and I think a lot of other liberals feel that way also. If you try to start the conversation with “you’re racist” then any real chance to persuade is lost. I think this sort of perspective is why many people across the political spectrum hesitate to shout “that’s racist”.

he 'corrected' himself after saying nigger to saying asshole

he is a racist

 

[Kinsei]

so this keemstar dude made a video basically saying if you don't direct it to an actual black person, even in the presence of black people its ok...so basically if a person was to get mad playing a handheld game and say that out loud on a bus/plane in the presence of black people its ok as long as its not being directed at them?

I'm telling you...as a black man that shit isn't going to go fly.

am I in the fucking twilight zone?

Keemstar is such a big piece of shit that he actually managed to get himself banned from Youtube. The fact that he's saying shit like that doesn't surprise me.

 

[Nanashrew]

so this keemstar dude made a video basically saying if you don't direct it to an actual black person, even in the presence of black people its ok...so basically if a person was to get mad playing a handheld game and say that out loud on a bus/plane in the presence of black people its ok as long as its not being directed at them?

I'm telling you...as a black man that shit isn't going to go fly.

am I in the fucking twilight zone?

Keemstar is a racist himself so he's definitely going to defend this. Keemstar also made a video on Twitter yelling at the Firewatch developer's Twitter account with "know you role!"

 

[ZeoVGM]

Jesus Christ, those posts from FaustusMD.

Gee guys, I know he said something racist but if we call him a racist, aren't we just labeling him as well?

No. That's intellectually dishonest. He's being called a racist because he is a racist. He is a grown man in his late 20s who angrily called someone the n-word and we also know that it is part of his vocabulary.

He got angry while playing a video game and the VERY FIRST thing that came into his mind was the n-word.

The fact that there are still some people who don't understand the basics of the situation is maddening. PewDiePie is a racist. This isn't something that is up for debate. It isn't arguable. It's a statement of fact.

Enough.

 

[FrankNitty]

Boogie is the kid who just wants people to like him. He is the type that will always flip flop, sit in the middle so he ends up on the right side. Seems the only thing that upsets him is when people get on him about his weight and his failing at keeping it off, or w/e. I mean if someone were in a game with him and his wife and they got angry and called her a gap tooth cunt, I wonder if he would be cool with that too.

 

[Andronicus]

Spoiler

Wake me up when he finally has the spine to talk about Jon Tron.

sleep the eternal slumber

 

[Zolo]

Keemstar is such a big piece of shit that he actually managed to get himself banned from Youtube.

Wow.

 

[guybrushfreeman]

I value everyone's replies and opinions. But I could not believe this is how that post was taken:


Since when does "downfall" OR "detriment" mean genocide? Downfall alone doesn't even imply genocide; it would mean a loss of prominence in society how I phrased it. Not its destruction. I even added detriment just to be sure and you took it as genocide. You are only taking that how you wanted to take it. You know I meant he would need to have ill feelings toward another race. There is no way you are that disingenuous as a person to think I meant that.

That's way more than enough for me on the subject of Pewdiepie.

I still think you mean it. I have no idea what you think those words mean but you're in a fantasy world. How much 'detriment' is acceptable to you exactly? So somewhere between allowing people to use racial slurs (which I guess to you is not enough to be a 'detriment') and genocide is where racism lies and yet you still can't figure it out.

 

[LotusHD]

Can you still be a racist if you do not buy into the superiority complex?

Yes.

 

[Mael]

stuffs

It's all well and good but you're in a thread that exists because the worst thing PDP could call someone is the derogatory term for black people.
Literally the worst thing he can think of someone is to compare them to black people.
If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about where he stands on black people you probably won't be convinced if he starts up hanging black people from trees next to big burning crosses.

 

[Hoho for breakfast]

I've been avoiding this thread like the plague because I don't want to say the wrong thing and be banned.

I defended pewdiepie with the nazi bs but this is pretty cut and dry. I'm not saying he is or isn't racist but there's just no defense for this when you're someone that literally millions of people listen to.

What really annoys me is that after saying it he not only didn't apologize, he jokes about it again a little later when someone tells him to say it again. And in doing so he says it again. Grow the fuck up man...

 

[Stone Ocean]

The idea that racism is some all or nothing thing is insane. You don't need to be a klanner to be racist.

 

[Manzoon]

You know I meant he would need to have ill feelings toward another race.

I am not capable of perceiving what Felix is thinking, I can only judge him based on his speech and actions. He might be the most saintly person in the world in his own mind-scape and love us all unconditionally. That doesn't matter at all compared to the face he shows us and the words he uses.

Of course I might think better of him if he gives a sincere, heartfelt apology and doesn't fuck up again for the world to witness, but based on his track record I have strong reasons to believe this won't happen. I'd like to be proven wrong.

 

[ToonLink]

I value everyone's replies and opinions. But I could not believe this is how that post was taken:


Since when does "downfall" OR "detriment" mean genocide? Downfall alone doesn't even imply genocide; it would mean a loss of prominence in society how I phrased it. Not its destruction. I even added detriment just to be sure and you took it as genocide. You are only taking that how you wanted to take it. You know I meant he would need to have ill feelings toward another race. There is no way you are that disingenuous as a person to think I meant that.

That's way more than enough for me on the subject of Pewdiepie.

You don't know how PDP feels about black people. Why are you defending him? We judge people by their words and actions. He has done nothing that would imply he should be given the benefit of the doubt here.