Gran Turismo Sport vs Forza Motorsport 7 comparison with the Corvette C7

leeh said:
When people say this I do wonder what cars you drive.

What is it, a 1.2 de-cat Corsa?
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Just a few Porsches , Aston Martin and Ferraris (Can send you a few photos if you want ;) ) also the reviewer is a Pro Racer.... Also, not saying the game is bad, but is a lot worse than 3 or 4.
 
Hoo-doo said:
What is this pathetic deflection. Come on leeh, you're better than this.
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I've let my self down.

Seriously though, I've had more than the average Joe's experience of racing IRL, my absolute pinnacle being racing a Formula 3000 round Yas Marina.

I've always found Sims to be setup completely wrong and too twitchy, but I wonder if that's just controller Vs real wheel.

Forza 7 hits a nice balance for me, feel it's way more true to life than PCars for example.
 
xrnzaaas said:
Now let's do a wet track comparison... oh wait we can't. ;)

On a more serious note, I'm not a blind Forza defender, I agree that it could look better, but we should remember about a few things:
- Forza will support more cars during the race
- Forza now has dynamic weather and time of day, we haven't seen any weather footage from GTS (not counting night races)
- Forza has more tracks and a shitload more cars in the game (to be fair they've reused a lot of assets but it's still a lot of content)
- Forza Motorsport games always offer steady 60fps and the new game is exactly the same, steady framerate even on the oldest XONE models
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Not true. I had drops down to 30fps or lower today when racing in the rain on my launch XB1. Even the sound were affected by the performance hit. No idea if it's better on the S though.
 
TheAdmiester said:
They have, looking back towards the car you'll hear more throttle/intake-sounding audio and at the rear it's more raw exhaust sound. If you look at the side of the car you'll even take advantage of stereo and have one in each ear.
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At :35 uploader cycles through the cams during the video on the Forza side and the core engine effect doesn't change. There is barely any difference between the bumper cam and the rear cam. The inside sounds exactly the same as the outside cams. Check out this video for a more prolonged comparison - (3:50). When uploader jumps to the rear cam the only difference is the exhaust track being is just added on top and the tire bumping being minimized. You also can't really hear the exhaust (I assume the sad static crinkling sound is it) inside during the driver cam. The engine sounds almost exactly the same in both views.
 
LordOcidax said:
Just a few Porsches , Aston Martin and Ferraris (Can send you a few photos if you want ;) ) also the reviewer is a Pro Racer.... Also, not saying the game is bad, but is a lot worse than 3 or 4.
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:)

I think the main difference while I'm talking about this is I'm a controller guy and never used a wheel on Forza.
 
The rear wing on the F7 video shaking due to running the curb and wind resistance. It's the little things. They both look good, though.
 
Are we watching the same video? The contrast is way too enhanced on the gt side so it's going to look punchier compared to Forza. What was the capture method used? It's also a different time of day in each video so that's going to further highlight the lighting and contrast differences. Reflections look different too.

I mean I get that people like to root for one side or another and of course some will just accept whatever backs up this bias but shit let's at least get some better prepared demos to compare against.

On another note do the gt cars still sound like shit? I never played 6 but historically Forza has killed gt in the sound dept. That to me is almost as important as how the game looks.
 
Wow I had no idea there'd be this much of a difference. FM7 looks good but GTS looks gorgeous. Also, I've noticed the shaky cam of the Forza footage before, and the heads up comparison just makes it that much more obvious.

Also, it's interesting to see how the racing line placement differs slightly.
 
No doubt here, GTS looks better, lighting is as good as it could possibly get imo. The night video a few posts up is just insane! It took them 4 years but omg they nailed the voisuals this time!

Fortunately for Turn 10 they'll have another chance to beat GTS before PD is ready for their next game since PD is so slow. :P
 
Fredrik said:
Not true. I had drops down to 30fps or lower today when racing in the rain on my launch XB1. Even the sound were affected by the performance hit. No idea if it's better on the S though.
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Do you have a frame counting device? Anyway, DF will test the game so people saying "their" Forza dropped to 30 will be proven right or wrong in the end but of course people will ignore facts like in this thread when people say GTS didn't drop in the beta although provingly wrong.
 
borges said:
Facts:
I saw both of them on an LG OLED 65, and Forza looks way times better. Difference is so noticeable that makes me think that people arguing this didnt play Forza 7, or its in denial mode, or anything else.
Again: The difference in IQ is substantial. Go check them both on an OLED TV and then lets talk again.
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I saw BIg Rigs and Forza 7 Demo on my TV and Big Rigs looks times better. See? My opinion is not a fact just like yours...
 
MouldyK said:
What track? How many AI?
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Don't remember the track, 24 cars and I had the chase cam on. It started just before the rain hit then got worse and worse. It's not catastrophic I guess since Driveclub and FH3 is 30fps all the time but instantly going from smooth 60fps to 30fps with no time to adjust to the stutter made it look awful to be honest.
 
c0de said:
Do you have a frame counting device? Anyway, DF will test the game so people saying "their" Forza dropped to 30 will be proven right or wrong in the end but of course people will ignore facts like in this thread when people say GTS didn't drop in the beta although provingly wrong.
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Lol people have me on ignore for my complaints about the framerates, it doesn't matter what DF says I trust my framerate whore own eyes ;) And I haven't seen framedrops before so it's like it's common I just responded to the post about it always being 60fps which it's cleary not.
 
Fredrik said:
Lol people have me on ignore for my complaints about the framerates, it doesn't matter what DF says I trust my framerate whore own eyes ;) And I haven't seen framedrops before so it's like it's common I just responded to the post about it always being 60fps which it's cleary not.
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You said here it dropped to 30 and I'm curious if DF can support that. But yes, nothing can what you feel, that's for sure.
 
Can’t help but feel Forza 7 looks better on my TV compared to how it looks in this video.

Everything looks flat, but not here for me.

Also if the lighting conditions were similar to that shown in GTS it should look better.
 
The fanboy war here is amusing.
Some posts here make me feel like I'm still in GameFAQs. lol

But yeah, the conditions need to be more identical.
 
I am a Forza fanboy and there is no discussion to be had.

GT has always won the graphics crown, hands down.

They've always had the edge over Forza, which does not seem to find a proper lightning model that would greatly improve the graphics.
 
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Even from the beta it was apparent that GTS would be the graphical king.

rashbeep said:
GT:S looks better
Forza sounds better
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Not true anymore. GTS has accurate sounds now.
 
Polyphony are best at shaders and lighting so no surprises here.

Forza is great looking too but more styalized. Directly comparing forza does seem a bit plasticky and I'm not sure what settings are being used but it looks really slidey. Even the smallest turn seems to have the back wheels coming loose. Adds a bit of excitement I suppose.
 
Wagram said:
I was under the impression that Forza always beat GT in graphics. Quite the difference to the contrary there.
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Where did you get that impression? Forza has never eclipsed GT in visuals in any generation...

Mechanized said:
Too bad the Forza team doesn't have 4 years to work on a game and we get a new one every year. Too bad.
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Was it not argued that T10 pumping so many Forza's was an area it excelled at? That too comes with it's drawbacks, but don't forget that the current Forza is being devved with XB1 as a base and that is weaker than PS4..Notwithstanding PD's credentials when it comes to visuals and features have always been ahead of the pack......(GT had Dynamic Weather and TOD) on PS3 and was pushing much higher resolutions too...


Also, anybody who watches this video and believes that the only difference is in the lighting is kinda downplaying GT...Track detail, cars, reflections, mirror framerate is also a significant step up....amongst others...


As for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Rx4Hjf1gY&feature=youtu.be

I never understood why so many people believe that every car has to sound like some turbocharged car or NFS underground at every turn. Sound in GT is really good and accurate in GTS.
 
They both look good enough. What REALLY grinds my gears though, is the shaky camera in forza. Why did they do this? This is not how human eyes work. Not at all. Forza just went from "will look at this when I get a new PC" to "better double dip on PC2".
 
sponk said:
They both look good enough. What REALLY grinds my gears though, is the shaky camera in forza. Why did they do this? This is not how human eyes work. Not at all. Forza just went from "will look at this when I get a new PC" to "better double dip on PC2".
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The camera is entirely toggleable.

See this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsQgCAgc12A

thelastword said:
I never understood why so many people believe that every car has to sound like some turbocharged car or NFS underground at every turn. Sound in GT is really good and accurate in GTS.
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I know it's you, but fuck it, I'll bite. What part of any of the Corvette C7 footage from Forza sounds "like some turbocharged car or NFS Underground"?
 
Both look amazing. GT does look a bit better, but if you're just sitting there playing Forza it's nothing that you really need to think about.

PdotMichael said:
The whacky camera in Forza is so silly.
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This so much. I don't want to feel like I'm getting tugged along on a skateboard behind the car.
 
GT Sport has the smoothest tracks confirmed

I think the camera bob in FM7 adds a bit to the experience.

Graphics wise, I think we need uncompressed video with a more accurate time of day. GT sport looks great though.
 
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