Chrono Trigger availability (discussion)

Yeah I would strongly doubt either Horii or Toriyama are holding back a release. Horii’s business division (BD6) just put out DQ1-3 on 3DS and PS4 in fact, they love rereleasing old games.

The whole thing reeks of theorycrafting and heresay. It's most likely Square just re-releasing other games first since they haven't gotten love nearly as recently (see SoM series).
 
I've never understood the "rights issues"... issue.

Why would a rights holder decline free money from someone else doing all the work for them?

Because they're not being offered much?

Incidentally I have just listened over and this was mentioned by Damiani on the latest friend code during a discussion about the SNES Classic.
 
I believe this was mentioned briefly on Friend Code; the Easy Allies Nintendo podcast. The context was that one of the rights holders may not have been entirely on board with the DS version and since then the possibility of more versions has been harmed as a result. They didn't go into much more detail than that on the show.

wow, so Square doesn't have complete owning of Chrono Trigger? That's new to me.
 
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I was looking at the devices that Chrono Trigger is available and there's lots of ports. But i noticed that starting next year with the Wii eshop closing, the only digital places available Will be: PS3, vita, Android, IOS.

No New generation console. And its not even in the minisnes. Last gen to receive Chrono was: PS3, vita, Nintendo DS, Wii.

So has Square forgotten Chrono, Will they bring Chrono to the switch or PS4? Or they Will let the way It is? Why its not even on the minisnes?

I have a Vita so thats not a problem to me. But If someone only has the New consoles, the only way he can play Chrono is through android and IOS or to buy a older console.

Well what you guys think?

maybe they are doing 3d remake similar to secret of mana on ps4.
 
I’ve been enjoying SoM on the SNES classic. Might pick up chrono trigger on the Wii Shop before it shuts down - snes classic has FF6 and SoM but no chrono trigger unless you hack/pirate it on there.

I believe none of the Square SNES RPGs were released on the Wii U VC outside of Japan for whatever reason. Perhaps they’ll return at some point on Switch VC next year if that actually happens.
 
Why are you rebuying the same game over and over again?

I generally don't, but since Chrono Trigger isn't on a platform with continued support (like Steam, or Xbox backwards compatibility), If I wanted to play CT again, I'd have to buy it for a third or so time.

Once on SNES, once on PSX. I guess I'd have to buy it for the DS or something.
 
I believe none of the Square SNES RPGs were released on the Wii U VC outside of Japan for whatever reason. Perhaps they’ll return at some point on Switch VC next year if that actually happens.

Correct and that was already facepalm centra. Their only Wii U VC release was FF Tactica Advance and Ogre Battle 64.
 
I don't understand how they haven't released this game on Steam yet. It's like, their most popular game behind FFVII. And it's regarded as one of the greatest games of all time.

Square Enix Senior Vice President Shinji Hashimoto revealed that the company wasn't very impressed by the sales of cult RPG classic Chrono Trigger during an E3 interview regarding Front Mission Evolved, a reinvention of the Front Mission franchise.

When asked by RPGSite staff if he could foresee Square handing off other much-loved but neglected franchises to external developers as with Front Mission, he asked what franchise we had in mind.

Our response? Chrono Trigger, of course!

"Why does everyone ask about Chrono Trigger?" he laughed. We told him it's a very loved series. "That's not what the sales tell me!" he responded.

"If people want a sequel, they should buy more!"

We'll be posting the Front Mission interview in full shortly, so stay tuned.

https://www.rpgsite.net/news/341-square-want-more-chrono-trigger-buy-more
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Technically the PS3 and Vita versions are ports of the PS1 game, meaning that the DS version is the most recent version of the game. That's a looong time ago.
 
The dungeons weren't great, but the REAL crappy additional content was the new side quests with the reptites that has you going back and forth between time periods in the ultimate of fetch quests.

Luckily, it's all stuff you can ignore if you want. The only rewards are even more overpowered gear (that sadly, surpass the much harder to get and more rewarding story wise content from the original release).

As for the rest of the additional content... The anime cutscenes are nice, but the in-game originals suffice well enough. The monster hunting game was garbo and the new translation is mostly great, if a bit more clinical. Nothing about it blows the SNES one out of the water though.
I didn't say the SNES was bad though. But whether you like it or not however, it is an objectively lesser package than the DS version.
 
Technically the PS3 and Vita versions are ports of the PS1 game, meaning that the DS version is the most recent version of the game. That's a looong time ago.

It's less than ten years old - how often should companies republish games? Also, I would hate for the "latest version" of CT to look as bad as the "latest version" of FFVI.
 
I didn't say the SNES was bad though. But whether you like it or not however, it is an objectively lesser package than the DS version.

I didn't say that that's what you said. I was only expanding on all that was mentioned so anyone that was checking it out for the first time would know the additional pros and negatives :)
 
That is exactly what I remember him saying. Thanks for posting. If EVERYONE has been asking about it that would imply interest to me and also rereleasing the same thing for over 20 years isn’t what people want. If they are worried about putting to many resources in it to gauge interest I am sure a lot of fans would be very happy to buy a “retro 16-bit” inspired sequel. Me included! That has much less financial risk and they can see if the fans are still interested. But hey Nintendo won’t even release Mother 3 in the US and that already IS done.
 
it's the same thing as a movie fan getting, I dunno, Goodfellas on VHS in the 90s, on DVDs in the 00s, and on Blu Ray in the 10s. it's not that weird

When you buy Goodfellas in Blue Ray, you are getting a better version and your VHS copy still works.

Most gamers rebuy the exact same game/edition because the company made their old one inaccessible or they have a strange need to play it in their latest console (even though it's the same game). Your argument really only works for remasters or enhanced ports (e.g. CT for DS).
 
wow, so Square doesn't have complete owning of Chrono Trigger? That's new to me.

Back in the SNES and PS1 era the copyrights for Chrono Trigger was always "© Square" (or Square Enix) and "Illustration © Bird Studio".

For some reason, the copyrights for Chrono Trigger DS also have a third credit, "Story and Screenplay © Armor Project". This copyright was never ever mentioned before (even though Armor Project is of course Yuji Horii's studio and has existed since before the SNES was even a thing).

On the other hand, Yasunori Mitsuda for example doesn't own the rights to the music of Chrono Trigger. He does own the rights to the music of Chrono Cross, which ironically enough contains a lot of melodies from Chrono Trigger (I wonder what would happen if he tried to release Lucca's Theme as a single).
 
Setsuna. (yes I know the game is not as good as CT)

Setsuna and Lost Sphear both look like babby's first RPG maker game. I cannot believe it's a professional product published by SE. I'd give them a try except they release them at almost full price.
 
I didn't say the SNES was bad though. But whether you like it or not however, it is an objectively lesser package than the DS version.
To my memory I like the way the snes sounded better but that could just be because it was played through better speakers. I didn’t particularly care for the anime cut scenes, they didn’t always reflect what I envision when I played through it on the snes and the added dungeon I thought was bad. So with the idea that I can play the snes cart and it doesn’t add stuff I don’t want and sounds better that makes it a greater package to me. Different strokes though.
 
In fairness to people that think Chrono Trigger is on the SNES mini, Crono looks a hellofa lot like the main protag from SoM

Glad I am not the only one that noticed the resemblance as a child! I always named the SoM main protag Crono.

That's because Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger were originally the same game. The project was split in two after Sony cancelled the Nintendo Play Station.

And it's probably why the creator of Secret of Mana was so adamant about making a sequel to Chrono Trigger on the Sony PlayStation a few years later.
 

How the fuck am I supposed to buy it if they aren't rereleasing it?

lol and for the record, I actually just remembered I bought the fucking shitty and overprice Android version when it came out.

They should start by releasing the game on current consoles. And NOT a port of the shitty-ass PSone version with atrocious loading times. Because if Square looked at the sales of the PSone classic, then fucking yeah, of course no one fucking bought that shit, yo.
 
How the fuck am I supposed to buy it if they aren't rereleasing it?

lol and for the record, I actually just remembered I bought the fucking shitty and overprice Android version when it came out.

They should start by releasing the game on current consoles. And NOT a port of the shitty-ass PSone version with atrocious loading times. Because if Square looked at the sales of the PSone classic, then fucking yeah, of course no one fucking bought that shit, yo.

Well it's a comment from 2009 :p
 
When you buy Goodfellas in Blue Ray, you are getting a better version and your VHS copy still works.

Most gamers rebuy the exact same game/edition because the company made their old one inaccessible or they have a strange need to play it in their latest console (even though it's the same game). Your argument really only works for remasters or enhanced ports (e.g. CT for DS).
Not really strange, a lot of people don’t want to fuss around with pulling a system out of storage, digging behind the tv to hook it up, and so on. Same reasons people give for preferring digital to disc.

Edit: arguably the 16 bit games are enhanced by the addition of borders/filters in re-releases as well, like on the SNES classic.
 
When these platforms have the ability to do so without any real extra work needed, yes. (could be available on Wii U VC in both the SNES and DS versions, N3DS VC, PSN for all sys--- wait, Sony is being dumb about PSOne on PS4, ---most system. But Square Enix just chooses to be Square Enix because they love to do incredibly dumb things.
I honestly just don't think Square Enix have the bandwidth with everything else their focusing on.

If people are after their classics on modern consoles, then they still have a load of FFs to get sorted. Which of course would be their priority.
 
I would think an explanation for why they didn't release it on the mini snes is that they wanna release it again on a new gen console in the near future?
Or maybe Nintendo has chosen some other Square games to be included in the SNES Classic.
 
When you buy Goodfellas in Blue Ray, you are getting a better version and your VHS copy still works.

Most gamers rebuy the exact same game/edition because the company made their old one inaccessible or they have a strange need to play it in their latest console (even though it's the same game). Your argument really only works for remasters or enhanced ports (e.g. CT for DS).

No, the nature of the platform also matters. PSP, Vita, 3DS releases of the ROM (Classics/VC) would have made that game portable without the need for a remaster or enhanced port to exist. Which is also why so many people are clamoring for Switch versions of everything, for example. Even a Wii U VC release would have provided a different way of playing it (Off-TV, taking screenshots whenever [well, unless Square was gonna pull a Square and willfully disabled that as they did for their VC titles in Japan...idiots], Miiverse). That stuff is why we rebuy the same thing over and over again sometimes.
 
Is this a meme or something? Lol what game wouldn't you say that about?

I seriously don’t know if this just a meme now and I missed it, but this is actually an honest question, in your opinion, what game or genre of games would you think would be awful for Switch? Assume you almost always have a decent wireless internet connection in this hypothetical.

I am not saying CT would be bad or anything. This is just the thread I saw this sentiment mentioned again.

Any game where you want a good dpad. So the majority of retro games, actually.
 
I didn't say that that's what you said. I was only expanding on all that was mentioned so anyone that was checking it out for the first time would know the additional pros and negatives :)
Fair enough. :)

I do love the UI of the DS version,though. So that alone makes it the definitive version for me.
 
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