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[Captain Europe]

it should be live later today. You do not need to get invited, the registrations will be open for everyone on the same day. The invites were only for the first wave of registrations which should only last like an hour or two so everyone will be able to get in when its live.

Thanks, can't wait!

I don't think it's going to fracture. Call me naive, but I believe NeoGAF isn't going anywhere.

It's already fractured. NeoGAF is only going to be a former shadow of itself, I really don't see the insiders, developers and designers returning. And that's one of the reasons why this place was big.

 

[Kurdel]

it should be live later today. You do not need to get invited, the registrations will be open for everyone on the same day. The invites were only for the first wave of registrations which should only last like an hour or two so everyone will be able to get in when its live.

Lookig forward to it!

 

[Nabbis]

If only someone in your life loved you.

Indeed. Guess i can always join new former-Gaf communities as a poor mans substitute.

 

[Aztechnology]

Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

 

[RockmanBN]

Thanks, can't wait!



It's already fractured. NeoGAF is only going to be a former shadow of itself, I really don't see the insiders, developers and designers returning. And that's one of the reasons why this place was big.

Can't wait for the review threads tomorrow with the lack of reviewers like Gamexplain posting their reviews for Odyssey or ACG for something like AC Origins.

 

[dealer-]

What is the vetting process for ResetEra?

Just linking to a neogaf post or your profile.

Sounds like it won’t be long for those of us that didn’t know about discord early enough to sign up anyway.

 

[d9b]

Indeed. Guess i can always join new former-Gaf communities as a poor mans substitute.

No, you should definitely stay here. Definitely.

 

[eKongDiddy]

I no longer hold these views. They came from a place of ignorance. Apologies to anyone who was hurt or offended by these posts.

 

[Astral Dog]

Because it's not wrong to him. It's wrong to you. I believe gay people should do whatever the hell they want, they are people after all just like all us straighties. People can marry a cat for all I believe in.

What you are upset about is that he disapproves of gay people getting married, probably because of religious beliefs. But his brother is gay, he has no ill will, nor does it seem that he goes out of his way to preach. Maybe he is just "old fashioned". Gay marriage is in its infancy and year by year is becoming more widely understood.

But to verbally attack someone who isn't there just yet because their entire upbringing doesn't fall in line with yours?

Upbringing its not something we choose, and respecting conservative beliefs only goes so far, surely you understand how important is for any homosexual (and even heterosexual) is to be raised in an open environment were they aren't afraid to ask questions about themselves and be accepted and loved for who they are.

And Gay people happen to have it harsher than others most of the time.
Thats why the reactions, its a delicate subject for many.

 

[Cake Boss]

This place has gone insane.

 

[Drackhorn]

1 poster says something awful, 9 decent ones clutch their rosemarys. GAF will be fine yall. The truly awful are still outnumbered.

Exactly.

 

[kevm3]

The community is fractured, sure, but why would devs and reviewers go to where the same mods that drove them off in the first place is going?

 

[Nabbis]

No, you should definitely stay here. Definitely.

Nah, you munchkins killed off all the insiders and made this place the joke of the industry. It's already dead, im just having some fun.

 

[Nokagi]

I want GAF to survive because I love this community, but if this is the new normal around here then maybe it is already dead. I have nowhere else to go and just want to cry right now. Fuck everything.

I feel for ya. You seem like a good person. Hopefully this forum will settle down in a few weeks but if not I hope you find a new home somewhere.

 

[kliklik]

I'm not going to speak for him, but the whole post was explaining that his beliefs are not what defines him. Why does it bother anyone what he believes in as long as he is respectful to others, which he stated he is.

Yeah great... only because he has a shitty opinion doesn't mean he's not allowed to express it. No one should get banned for believing in bullshit, even if it's offensive to you, as long as it's not expressed in an overtly hateful way.
We should rather learn from these opinions and focus on eradicating these thoughts by relentless education, not censorship.

It's attitudes like yours that will make this place unbearable and are what is partially responsible for GAF having a reputation for being an eco-chamber for outrage culture.

If you don't agree with the poster above you, discuss and debate, don't just drop some swear words and a one line retort.

Have not followed the discussion but i don't see reason for Ban yet, only based on that post.

Stop being so reasonable! You don't fit in. The only people here who deserve moderation for their posts are these:

Go fuck yourself you bigoted piece of shit

Fuck you.

Personal attacks by swearing at other users should never be acceptable. Hell, even gamefaqs moderates that. I think it's telling of what the forum used to be that people feel comfortable doing that here.

Hehe. Your account not being immediately nuked really demonstrates what this place has turned into.

A place where a discussion can be had and minds can be changed? Cool!

 

[Royce McCutcheon]

Nah, you munchkins killed off all the insiders and made this place the joke of the industry. It's already dead, im just having some fun.

People were already laughing at GAF, it's just for a different reason now.

 

[Agent Gibbs]

Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

What the hell? how has this not been banned? that's most ridiculous stuff I've read since the last Trump tweet

 

[Kurdel]

God can work miracles, and I know he can loose the spirit of homosexuality and perversion off someone.

You can’t pray this hotness away.

I hope you will find yourself and love yourself one day.

A place where a discussion can be had and minds can be changed? Cool!

Reasonable discussions about gay concersion therapy? GTFO

 

[TumblingHippo]

Homophobia should be an instant ban. There is no discussion to be had with a scumbag.

 

[RinsFury]

1 poster says something awful, 9 decent ones clutch their rosemarys. GAF will be fine yall. The truly awful are still outnumbered.

The fact that being pro-gay conversion is being allowed to stand as a viable opinion around here is beyond troubling. Yesterday I thought GAF would recover from this, today I just feel crushed and disillusioned.

 

[Uno Venova]

The community is fractured, sure, but why would devs and reviewers go to where the same mods that drove them off in the first place is going?

but some journalists and mods are already asking to come

 

[Drackhorn]

You can’t pray this hotness away.

I hope you will find yourself and love yourself one day.

Hot!

 

[Magilla]

The fact that being pro-gay conversion is being allowed to stand as a viable opinion around here is beyond troubling. Yesterday I thought GAF would recover from this, today I just feel crushed and disillusioned.

That's also ignoring the multiple posters that are playing "both sides". It is really sad. I hope resetera will come together well.

 

[Agent Gibbs]

Yes. There are examples of people in my life and that I’ve heard of it happening to. I’m a good example too. In my teen years I was surrounded by bad influences (IMHO), and due to lots of confusion due to indecent acts when I was younger, I thought I was gay. Found Jesus, realized I wasn’t, and got out of that community/lifestyle.

You weren't Gay if that's true you were just experimenting sexually, or you have some serious repression that will cause you immense harm

 

[M3Freak]

It's already fractured. NeoGAF is only going to be a former shadow of itself, I really don't see the insiders, developers and designers returning. And that's one of the reasons why this place was big.

It's too soon to draw any conclusions. I mean, you're still here, reading and replying. That alone says something about the draw of NeoGAF.

If NeoGAF is truly a community, then like our real world communities, it stands to reason the actions of any single individual cannot and will not reflect the entire community.

Like I said, NeoGAF isn't going away.

 

[Straight Edge]

Yes. There are examples of people in my life and that I’ve heard of it happening to. I’m a good example too. In my teen years I was surrounded by bad influences (IMHO), and due to lots of confusion due to indecent acts when I was younger, I thought I was gay. Found Jesus, realized I wasn’t, and got out of that community/lifestyle.



It’s not really homophobia. There’s no fear or disdain.



These devout Christians aren’t forcing themselves anywhere. Now this is my belief, so I’m sorry if it offends anyone. Can delete it if it does.

God can work miracles, and I know he can loose the spirit of homosexuality and perversion off someone.



There not lying. They’ve all said how difficult it was at first with temptation and urges, but they all stop eventually. They have families now and seem to be pretty happy. These are some of the most faithful people in the churches around here because of how they view true it relationship with God and their testimonies.

This is my Christian view now:

When people say being gay is a choice, I think they mean giving into your temptations and living in that community. I’ve had people in Highschool who were gay one year. Straight the next. Then asexual. It can get crazy and a little absurd.

Is this the type of garbage that will be allowed here now?

 

[Buzzman]

Yes. There are examples of people in my life and that I’ve heard of it happening to. I’m a good example too. In my teen years I was surrounded by bad influences (IMHO), and due to lots of confusion due to indecent acts when I was younger, I thought I was gay. Found Jesus, realized I wasn’t, and got out of that community.

oh wow, I'm sorry to hear that.

There not lying. They’ve all said how difficult it was at first with temptation and urges, but they all stop eventually. They have families now and seem to be pretty happy. These are some of the most faithful people in the churches around here because of how they view true it relationship with God and their testimonies.

This is my Christian view now:

When people say being gay is a choice, I think they mean giving into your temptations and living in that community. I’ve had people in Highschool who were gay one year. Straight the next. Then asexual. It can get crazy and a little absurd.

Do you think every person has those same temptations? Because they don't. It's been with you since birth.

 

[GSG Flash]

I don't know everything about what has happened and I'm guessing neither do anyone else.
If the allegations are true then its obviously not right and you wouldn't want to support a guy like that.

But the reality on the internet is that you're guilty until proven otherwise. Its her words against his. There have been cases where the girl lied and of course ones where everything was true. I've gotten burned before by jumping to conclusions without all the facts and I'm really trying these days to not do so.

I hope Gaf can ride out this storm.

How about his words against his own?

EL already admitted that what he's accused of happened, however in his words it was "harmonious and consensual". Based on his past behaviour towards women, I find that very hard to believe. The man does not take any responsibility towards his actions.

 

[Swarlee]

This is a message board so a lot of things should be up to debate. However being gay should not be one of them. Anybody who believes in God understands that he gave us the freedom of choice. And he didn't give that so some knucklehead on an internet forum could use his name to deny that freedom.

You have to understand that the suicide rate among the LGBT community is insanely high due to lack of acceptance they received in their lives. Even with your shity opinion I don't question Your Existence and you damn well don't have right to question theirs. For you this is some intellectual debate but understand they live in a world where their existence is question daily so it's not just shooting the shit about opinions. I would come to your defense if people started railing against you about your belief in God.

So please be human being and lay off this.

 

[Kurdel]

Personal attacks by swearing at other users should never acceptable. Hell, even gamefaqs moderates that. I think it's telling of what the forum used to be that people feel comfortable doing that here.

When someone defends religious brainwashing of my fellow lgbt brothers and sisters, ya damn fucking right I will call them a bigoted piece of shit.

What moral highground do you think you are defending?

 

[Royce McCutcheon]

The fact that being pro-gay conversion is being allowed to stand as a viable opinion around here is beyond troubling. Yesterday I thought GAF would recover from this, today I just feel crushed and disillusioned.

Can we at least wait for the mod team to be fully staffed.

 

[Copper]

Personally I'm okay with the way things are now. This gave us an opportunity to remove a very toxic part of this community. I think this place will do much better now that we can focus on the games.

 

[eKongDiddy]

I no longer hold these views. They came from a place of ignorance. Apologies to anyone who was hurt or offended by these posts.

 

[holland666]

You can’t pray this hotness away.

I hope you will find yourself and love yourself one day.

Reasonable discussions about gay concersion therapy? GTFO

Stop posting porn!!

 

[Nimajneb]

In my teen years I was surrounded by bad influences (IMHO), and due to lots of confusion due to indecent acts when I was younger, I thought I was gay. Found Jesus, realized I wasn't, and got out of that community/lifestyle.


It's not really homophobia. There's no fear or disdain.

The literal line above this claims that gays are a "bad crowd" and you had to find Jesus to escape their evil ways. If that's not disdain, I don't know what is.

 

[Heckler456]

A place where a discussion can be had and minds can be changed? Cool!

Oh shuuut uuuuupppp. The validity of "being gay" isn't a topic that should be up for discussion anymore, full f'in stop. And it wasn't while we still had a functioning mod team.

 

[Kurdel]

Stop posting porn!!

Oh I havent even begun posting porn, darling.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Stop posting porn!!

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[Drackhorn]

Stop posting porn!!

You call this porn?

 

[theofficefan99]

Because it's not wrong to him. It's wrong to you. I believe gay people should do whatever the hell they want, they are people after all just like all us straighties. People can marry a cat for all I believe in.

What you are upset about is that he disapproves of gay people getting married, probably because of religious beliefs. But his brother is gay, he has no ill will, nor does it seem that he goes out of his way to preach. Maybe he is just "old fashioned". Gay marriage is in its infancy and year by year is becoming more widely understood.

But to verbally attack someone who isn't there just yet because their entire upbringing doesn't fall in line with yours?

Lmfao.


Because it's wrong.
It enables homophobia.
It promotes homophobia.
It encourages homophobia.
That is a harmful, toxic way of thinking.

I guess viewing African Americans as lesser human beings is also "just an old-fashioned way of thinking"?
Give me a break.
Stop being an enabler.

 

[Anime Avatar]

Can we at least wait for the mod team to be fully staffed.

good one

 

[kliklik]

Reasonable discussions about gay concersion therapy? GTFO

He already condemned conversion therapy and called it torture. It's pretty clear you don't want to have a discussion if you don't plan on reading what you're condemning.

When someone defends religious brainwashing of my fellow lgbt brothers and sisters, ya damn fucking right I will call them a bigoted piece of shit.

What moral highground do you think you are defending?

Sounds like the gay people brainwashed themselves because they valued their religious community. The moral highground I'm defending is moderating in a balanced manner (irrespective of their political opinion but based on rule violations), and not banning people for disagreeing with me.

Oh shuuut uuuuupppp. The validity of "being gay" isn't a topic that should be up for discussion anymore, full f'in stop. And it wasn't while we still had a functioning mod team.

The rudest people I see here are y'all. You tell me to shut up, another tells me to "gtfo", just for saying disagreeing that the guy should be banned. Seriously do you realise how incredibly abrasive and self-righteous that is? This is why the forums have a bad reputation.

No-one is discussing the validity of being gay. I think we all agree it's fine. What's being discussed is whether people can shift on the sexuality spectrum. What was originally being discussed is how he can be polite and respectful to others and get along with them regardless of having socially conservative beliefs.

 

[eKongDiddy]

I no longer hold these views. They came from a place of ignorance. Apologies to anyone who was hurt or offended by these posts.

 

[facetheslayer92]

it should be live later today. You do not need to get invited, the registrations will be open for everyone on the same day. The invites were only for the first wave of registrations which should only last like an hour or two so everyone will be able to get in when its live.

Thanks for the update!

 

[Heckler456]

No, everyone had their own battles and temptations from birth that they have to deal with. Each person has a different struggle in life.

Oh, so you acknowledge that it's a given? You just think it's wrong, and that they shouldn't be the way that god made them?

 

[Jenny]

Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

What
the
Fuck

 

[Kurdel]

Sounds like the gay people brainwashed themselves because they valued their religious community. The moral highground I'm defending is moderating in a balanced manner (irrespective of their political opinion but based on rule violations), and not banning people for disagreeing with me.

« balanced » manner means allowing hate speech against LGBT communities on neogat, at least you can advocate for this in the open now that the decent mods have all quit.

FINALLY we can discuss the dangers of the gay lifestyle.

Vice president Pence might even want to make a gaf account thanks to brave people like you advocating for a safe space for hate.

 

[RPGCrazied]

I will just say, if you want to leave. Leave. No need for a good bye post. Nor do we need to see some sick shit before you leave.

If this is what Reset Era looks like, uh, good luck?

Want no part of that.

 

[BotoxAgent]

Yes. There are examples of people in my life and that I’ve heard of it happening to. I’m a good example too. In my teen years I was surrounded by bad influences (IMHO), and due to lots of confusion due to indecent acts when I was younger, I thought I was gay. Found Jesus, realized I wasn’t, and got out of that community/lifestyle.



It’s not really homophobia. There’s no fear or disdain.



These devout Christians aren’t forcing themselves anywhere. Now this is my belief, so I’m sorry if it offends anyone. Can delete it if it does.

God can work miracles, and I know he can loose the spirit of homosexuality and perversion off someone.



There not lying. They’ve all said how difficult it was at first with temptation and urges, but they all stop eventually. They have families now and seem to be pretty happy. These are some of the most faithful people in the churches around here because of how they view true it relationship with God and their testimonies.

This is my Christian view now:

When people say being gay is a choice, I think they mean giving into your temptations and living in that community. I’ve had people in Highschool who were gay one year. Straight the next. Then asexual. It can get crazy and a little absurd.

GTFO with this brainwashed garbage.

 

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