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[Revolutionary]

So apparently someone made a documentary called "The Problem With Apu" last year and The Simpsons finally addressed it last night, and the usual suspects aren't happy about it. Here's a write-up from The Hollywood Reporter because I'm too lazy to do one myself: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/simpsons-addresses-apu-stereotype-controversy-1100853

Following recent criticism that the character Apu Nahasapeemapetilon pushed negative South Asian stereotypes, The Simpsons addressed the controversy on Sunday's episode.

In the episode "No Good Read Goes Unpunished," Marge and Lisa indirectly discuss the portrayal of Apu. In the scene in question, Marge has edited a new version of The Princess in the Garden, tailoring it to what would be acceptable and inoffensive in 2018. Marge reads the story to Lisa, but the new version is much shorter and lacking in an "emotional journey" for the central character. Both Marge and Lisa then make reference to Apu, with Lisa looking at a picture of the character and saying "something that started decades ago and was applauded and inoffensive, is now politically incorrect. What can you do?"

Last November, the documentary The Problem With Apu explored the problematic nature of Apu and looked at how non-South Asians would use the character's exaggerated mannerisms and catchphrases as slurs or as casual racism.

It's worth pointing out the "applauded" part, as Apu's inclusion in the show was indeed applauded at the time when there were very few Indian characters (real or fictional) on American TV.

And here's the full scene in question:


I haven't seen the documentary, but based on what I've read about it today, it seems borderline disingeuous for ignoring the fact that EVERY character in The Simpsons is a caricature. Fat Tony? Groundskeeper Willie? Bumblebee Man? I can go on.


What's your take on this "controversy"?

 

[TrainedRage]

What controversy? These people will be outraged over anything. Oh no a cartoon comedy where every character is a satire and caricature of what they represent. These people need to be slapped in the face by reality.

 

[TheShadowLord]

here's the documentary if you want to watch it http://www.trutv.com/full-episodes/the-problem-with-apu/2141759/index.html

 

[Musky_Cheese]

What controversy? These people will be outraged over anything. Oh no a cartoon comedy where every character is a satire and caricature of what they represent. These people need to be slapped in the face by reality.

Yep. No reason to worry about what outrage groups feels. They are always outrage over something.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

It's fine for people to criticise it and it's fine for the show runners to disregard that criticism. \shrugs

 

[TheShadowLord]

well it's not like he wants Apu to be removed, it's just that he just want to see Apu to be more developed a less of a stereotype(from what I heard they weren't going to use Apu until Hank did the Indian voice):

While the show does make fun of the stereotypes, it still could have added in new characters who don't fit into the stereo. Like Doctor Hilbert is a black conservative doctor for example. There' Apu nephew but I think they only showed him once.

 

[Dunki]

well it's not like he wants Apu to be removed, it's just that he just want to see Apu to be more developed a less of a stereotype(from what I heard they weren't going to use Apu until Hank did the Indian voice):

While the show does make fun of the stereotypes, it still could have added in new characters who don't fit into the stereo. Like Doctor Hilbert is a black conservative doctor for example. There' Apu nephew but I think they only showed him once.

No he just wants APU to be a total different person...

You know what I would have done? Completely remove him. Let him go back to India with the message that people did not want him to be there anymore.

Also I love how he scams money out of people so they can listen to his opinion about it.

 

[Lionel Richie]

So apparently someone made a documentary called "The Problem With Apu" last year

Kill me.

 

[TheShadowLord]

No he just wants APU to be a total different person...

You know what I would have done? Completely remove him. Let him go back to India with the message that people did not want him to be there anymore.

Also I love how he scams money out of people so they can listen to his opinion about it.

characters go through development all the time in tv. How is that being a totally different person? So like instead of him being the store owner of the kwik mart, he becomes a wealthy businessman who owns multiple kwik stores.

 

[Dunki]

characters go through development all the time in tv. How is that being a totally different person? So like instead of him being the store owner of the kwik mart, he becomes a wealthy businessman who owns multiple kwik stores.

because he just wants him to be like he wants. Ever heard of artistic freedom? Also how would Apu even fit in there then anymore? There is ONE rich guy in the series and he i basically the villain. I
Apu had no reason to live there anymore. It is kind of ridiculous and even more ridiculous to scam people for money for his opinion on it.

 

[TheShadowLord]

because he just wants him to be like he wants. Ever heard of artistic freedom? Also how would Apu even fit in there then anymore? There is ONE rich guy in the series and he i basically the villain. I
Apu had no reason to live there anymore. It is kind of ridiculous and even more ridiculous to scam people for money for his opinion on it.

there is more than one rich guy, not just Mr. Burns. The Rich Texan and Rainier Wolfcastle for example(maybe fat tony since he is crime boss). They are just not super rich like Mr. Burns. second of all, I also pointed that they could add in more characters who show up more than once. So that could or not could involve adding an Indian who isn't a stereotype Indian. Such as Apu's nephew for example. As a someone who is south-east Asian and white mix, I am not bothered by Apu but I don't think there is any harm what I was trying to say to you.

 

[Dunki]

there is more than one rich guy, not just Mr. Burns. The Rich Texan and Rainier Wolfcastle for example(maybe fat tony since he is crime boss). They are just not super rich like Mr. Burns. second of all, I also pointed that they could add in more characters who show up more than once. So that could or not could involve adding an Indian who isn't a stereotype Indian. Such as Apu's nephew for example. As a someone who is south-east Asian and white mix, I am not bothered by Apu but I don't think there is any harm what I was trying to say to you.

Yeah and all of these are villains and arrogant people. Apu like he is is very much loved by many people. So to fulfill your own morals you want them to change something you do not like because of stupid reasoning. Ever heard of artistic freedom? IF you feel offended by it do not watch it.

Also EVERY Character in this is a stereotype. Homer is one, Lisa is one, Bart is one, Millhouse, Burns, Smithers, Dr Nick. The Mexican guy (forgot his name) Krusty Rainer Wolfcastle, Fat Tony. Having Apu or another person not being a stereotype would totally not fit into it. Also I loved how Lisa who is often more a sjw but also a voice of reason is telling these idiots how it is. It makes sense for Lisa to say it.

Also getting really tired of people getting offended by something. If you want to change something create/pitch your own show. Like the guy who is now scamming people out of their money so he can tell everyone how offended he is.

 

[TheShadowLord]

Yeah and all of these are villains and arrogant people. Apu like he is is very much loved by many people. So to fulfill your own morals you want them to change something you do not like because of stupid reasoning. Ever heard of artistic freedom? IF you feel offended by it do not watch it.

Also EVERY Character in this is a stereotype. Homer is one, Lisa is one, Bart is one, Millhouse, Burns, Smithers, Dr Nick. The Mexican guy (forgot his name) Krusty Rainer Wolfcastle, Fat Tony. Having Apu or another person not being a stereotype would totally not fit into it. Also I loved how Lisa who is often more a sjw but also a voice of reason is telling these idiots how it is. It makes sense for Lisa to say it.

Also getting really tired of people getting offended by something. If you want to change something create/pitch your own show. Like the guy who is now scamming people out of their money so he can tell everyone how offended he is.

That's true and you are right that someone like Fat Tony and maybe the Rich Texan fall under the villain type but not Rainer Wolfcastle.
I am not sure if Apu is very much love as you appointed but I would have no problem if you have something up to back it up.
I pointed out that not every character on the show is stereotypes. Doctor Hilbert as I mentioned, Sideshow Bob, Lenny and Carl,Moleman.
I know what artistic freedom and I already mentioned I have no problem with Apu. All I said was give an example what they could do with him and if they don't want to that's fine.
I am not sure how is he scamming people out of their money because tru tv let him put his documentary on their channel.

 

[Warm Machine]

My issue with the Apu as stereotype thing is that it is a very real stereotype. Like most people I've encountered an East Indian man with a similar accent doing a similar job. It is the equivalent to the Chinese family and restaurant which exists in nearly every prairie town in Canada. You can't pretend that such people don't exist because they do. The question is, are we making fun of him for being who he is, or is he just a character who happens to reflect the actual world around us? The fact that the majority of Americans laugh at cultures they don't understand has been established as a joke unto itself in the Simpsons time and time again and we laugh at Homer because he is the quintessential fat American.

In terms of a voice actor doing a voice for a character who is not the same race as themselves, well no shit. That's what voice actors do. I've run voice recording sessions where East Indian actors come in to do white character voices, or black men, or what have you. They are hired on their ability to play a role and a character. If I was looking to cast a Vancouver taxi driver I'd be looking for an East Indian, middle eastern, or maybe, possibly, a Chinese male because like it or not, that is the actual demographic of that job in this city. The irony is that if I were to cast for doctor I'd be looking at the same pool of actors, but no one is as likely to complain that when a high profile profession is chosen even though it has the same racial bias inherent in it.

Doctor Hibbert is a stereotype. He is intentionally black to reflect Bill Cosby's doctor character on The Cosby Show which was the prime competition at the time.

 

[camelCase]

The response from the show wasn't good but for starters everyone is a target in these shows, family guy South Park Simpsons. The guy is an idiot for thinking his documentary had any reason to be made.

 

[Solomeena]

This world of ours is just going to hell. In 10 years or less this world will literally be like the one seen in Demolition Man. BE WELL JOHN SPARTAN! In another 20 or 30 years we will be living in a world like the one in Equilibrium minus the gungfu shit. I would rather be living in the sewers being able to do what i want then this shit being turned into a sterile SJW world.

 

[way more]

It seems like Apu has grown. He's become a citizen, he found a wife, he's a small business owner with a PhD in computer science, he has a family now. All Kandabolu is saying just make him 20% richer? I get his issues about growing up indian when Apu was the most famous indian on TV but his "solution," is pretty weak.

Seems like what he's asking for Apu to become is what Apu already is.

 

[Grinchy]

The people who are offended offer way more comedy to me than the Simpsons can.

 

[TrainedRage]

This world of ours is just going to hell. In 10 years or less this world will literally be like the one seen in Demolition Man. BE WELL JOHN SPARTAN! In another 20 or 30 years we will be living in a world like the one in Equilibrium minus the gungfu shit. I would rather be living in the sewers being able to do what i want then this shit being turned into a sterile SJW world.

Fahrenheit 451 is coming out at just the right time. I'm sure the SJW's will look at it as a Utopian future they desire... Don't like X, just burn it!!!!!!

 

[TheShadowLord]

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This world of ours is just going to hell. In 10 years or less this world will literally be like the one seen in Demolition Man. BE WELL JOHN SPARTAN! In another 20 or 30 years we will be living in a world like the one in Equilibrium minus the gungfu shit. I would rather be living in the sewers being able to do what i want then this shit being turned into a sterile SJW world.

It makes great fiction(dystopian/ nwo ) but I don't think there is any reason yo believe that this is going to happen in.

 

[bitbydeath]

No he just wants APU to be a total different person...

You know what I would have done? Completely remove him. Let him go back to India with the message that people did not want him to be there anymore.

Also I love how he scams money out of people so they can listen to his opinion about it.

Better yet, just kill off one of Apu's kids everytime someone complains. If anyone in this show needs development it is Maggie.

 

[Solomeena]

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It makes great fiction(dystopian/ nwo ) but I don't think there is any reason yo believe that this is going to happen in.

Why is it so hard to believe? There is not one day that goes by that someone or some people on twitter are crying about their poor feelings. There is not one day that goes by where somewhere someone or some people are marching because they think they are oppressed when they are not.

 

[SonicSleuth]

Personally, I think the documentary is a cash grab at the popularity of the Simpsons in the same way "Super Size Me" was a cash grab at the popularity of McDonald's. I haven't seen it, but I think the Simpsons has been incredibly inclusive and willing to develop cultural awareness in a way that literally NO other cartoon (or perhaps fictional TV show) ever has. The fact that the bum Barney stereotype and the do-gooder Nelson and the slob Homer are all funny is because we respond to the fact that we've seen these things. Convenience store owners and workers are commonly folks from other cultures, and Apu is one of those. Might want to be encouraged that we've had a foreign small business owner who works hard to keep his family happy despite feeling like an outsider at times, but naw, let's just complain because he has an accent.

 

[DiscoJer]

To me Apu started off as a stereotype, but he's evolved into the shows most likable character with character development that many of the other stereotypes on the show haven't had (Willie for instance or DiscoStu)

 

[ickythingz]

It's a cartoon. Who cares? People who do care may need to take a long look at themselves in the mirror and figure out why a cartoon has so much power in their life.

 

[yet_another_alt]

What's your take on this "controversy"?

The correct answer is to burst into song.

Who needs a Stere-O-Type?
Now here's the shitty tripe,
Oh, won't you whine with me?
Who needs a Stere-O-Type?

They blame my phenotype!
They made me sick o' white!
Let's hurl a brick at white!
The Stere-O-Type is real— D'oh

Who needs the Stere-O-Type?
Not meeeeeeeeeee!

Forget the Stere-O-Type!
Good-bye to Stere-O-Type!
Who needs the Stere-O-Type?

Who needs the Stere-O-Type?
I dooo!

For real though, this is such a non-issue. It's obvious that someone wants to rise out of mediocrity by stepping on something popular.

 

[Cleared_Hot]

I don't get it... He is pretty spot on (albeit silly as are all charcters in Simpsons) with all the dudes that worked in the 7 elevens where I grew up in Philly.

 

[llien]

While it is good that opinion diversity is tolerated on this forum, the "outraged over everything" and "SJWs will this and that" talk is getting annoying.

Someone went as far as creating documentary, to outline what's wrong with Apu.

To criticize that documentary, you should, perhaps, watch it first? Hear the arguments and if you find them weak, outline, why?

 

[LegendOfKage]

While it is good that opinion diversity is tolerated on this forum, the "outraged over everything" and "SJWs will this and that" talk is getting annoying.

Agreed. I try to avoid that sort of thing, and encourage others to do the same.

Someone went as far as creating documentary, to outline what's wrong with Apu.

To criticize that documentary, you should, perhaps, watch it first? Hear the arguments and if you find them weak, outline, why?

Could someone maybe paraphrase some of it and outline the arguments made in the documentary? For the sake of discussion, I'm never going to request that someone watch an entire movie before they give their opinion on the basic subject of that movie. That's a lot to ask. Of course, everyone should probably watch a movie before criticizing the movie itself, but not a topic that the movie covers.

 

[bitbydeath]

While it is good that opinion diversity is tolerated on this forum, the "outraged over everything" and "SJWs will this and that" talk is getting annoying.

Someone went as far as creating documentary, to outline what's wrong with Apu.

To criticize that documentary, you should, perhaps, watch it first? Hear the arguments and if you find them weak, outline, why?

Comedy by design is about taking the piss out of things. How long til someone gets upset about some of these classics.

A lot of rules we have in society is to stop impacting others in a negative way and trying to kill comedy because someone takes offense to something they don't have to watch should be one of them.

 

[lil puff]

I remember this guy making the media rounds I think late last year. I appreciate his opinion, but I recall thinking it was petty> Just go write your own show, dude. Sorry. I didn't spend too much time pondering his arguments.

 

[mckmas8808]

So apparently someone made a documentary called "The Problem With Apu" last year and The Simpsons finally addressed it last night, and the usual suspects aren't happy about it. Here's a write-up from The Hollywood Reporter because I'm too lazy to do one myself: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/simpsons-addresses-apu-stereotype-controversy-1100853

It's worth pointing out the "applauded" part, as Apu's inclusion in the show was indeed applauded at the time when there were very few Indian characters (real or fictional) on American TV.

And here's the full scene in question:


I haven't seen the documentary, but based on what I've read about it today, it seems borderline disingeuous for ignoring the fact that EVERY character in The Simpsons is a caricature. Fat Tony? Groundskeeper Willie? Bumblebee Man? I can go on.


What's your take on this "controversy"?

Let me guess.....the people that think this "controversy" is all bullcrap aren't South Asian or don't have South Asian heritage. Yet they will be the ones to tell others what they can and can't say about an Indian character. I've always like Apu, but it doesn't mean that people can't make good points about the character if the character has some issues.

There are plenty of rap songs I loved in the 90s, that feel different to me today and I cringe a little. It's okay to grow and learn.

This world of ours is just going to hell. In 10 years or less this world will literally be like the one seen in Demolition Man. BE WELL JOHN SPARTAN! In another 20 or 30 years we will be living in a world like the one in Equilibrium minus the gungfu shit. I would rather be living in the sewers being able to do what i want then this shit being turned into a sterile SJW world.

Something tells me you'd rather be living in America's 1950s than in today's America too!

 

[Ka-Kui]

I'm not familiar with the documentary but I am familiar with some of these unfunny south asian comedians' names. It's no surprise to me they'll be offended by a character who's funnier than all their materials combined.

Like people have mentioned the show has more than a few stereotypes, why single out Apu, who actually gets decent treatmeant in comparison, and ignore everyone else. That's pretty selfish.

 

[mckmas8808]

I'm not familiar with the documentary but I am familiar with some of these unfunny south asian comedians' names. It's no surprise to me they'll be offended by a character who's funnier than all their materials combined.

Like people have mentioned the show has more than a few stereotypes, why single out Apu, who actually gets decent treatmeant in comparison, and ignore everyone else. That's pretty selfish.

Then why don't you make a documentary about the others then. This person can speak about the character on the show he cares about the most if he wants to. Why does he have to talk about every character just because he wanted to talk about Apu?

 

[llien]

Comedy by design is about taking the piss out of things. How long til someone gets upset about some of these classics.

So we are to condemn content in an unknown documentary based on what comedy is "by design"?

 

[Ka-Kui]

Then why don't you make a documentary about the others then. This person can speak about the character on the show he cares about the most if he wants to. Why does he have to talk about every character just because he wanted to talk about Apu?

He doesn't have to but it shows how self sighted he is if Apu is the only target of his/their frustrations.

I just watched the trailer and he says he's a fan of the show, so does that mean he's laughing at the other stereotypes except his own? If he hasn't beeb laughing at the others then why is he fan? It's hard for me to wrap my head around this.

 

[Dunki]

So we are to condemn content in an unknown documentary based on what comedy is "by design"?

I am sorry but I do not pay this person for this. His main argument is that Apu is a stereotype and because he is not rich they should change him to a wealthy Indian because then for whatever reason it is not racist anymore. This is his main argument with totally ignoring how well developed Apu in this series has become. He married got kids leads a mostly happy but poor life. You could even argue that he has changed the most over these20+ years.

Also everyone is a stereotype in this series literally every represents a certain group of people

 

[Revolutionary]

Then why don't you make a documentary about the others then. This person can speak about the character on the show he cares about the most if he wants to. Why does he have to talk about every character just because he wanted to talk about Apu?

The reason he didn't ask Mexicans for their opinions on Bumblebee Man is because most Mexicans don't give a shit. I'd wager that Italians don't care about Fat Tony's portrayal, and Scots don't care about Groundskeeper Willie's either. It would've destroyed the point of his documentary so used his friends and family for confirmation bias. Again, the documentary is borderline disingenous. And yes, I took the time to watch it last night.. though I'll admit I fast forwarded a few times because my eyes were rolling to the back of my head.

The fact is that every single character on the Simpsons is a caricature of something real. Emphasis on the word caricature.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

The fact is that every single character on the Simpsons is a caricature of something real. Emphasis on the word caricature.

As Kondabolu made clear in his film, the problem with Apu extends beyond a brown character voiced by a white actor; the problem was not just with The Simpsons, but with its viewers, the drunk idiots on the street who call any South-Asian person "Apu" and who repeated "Thank you, come again," as a mocking refrain.

"They didn't mean for it to happen," said actor Utkarsh Ambudkar (Game Over, Man!) in The Problem with Apu. "We just were underrepresented. We didn't have any other representation in this country. That creates a problem when the most popular show on television is showing mainstream America what an Indian is."

 

[Dunki]

As Kondabolu made clear in his film, the problem with Apu extends beyond a brown character voiced by a white actor; the problem was not just with The Simpsons, but with its viewers, the drunk idiots on the street who call any South-Asian person "Apu" and who repeated "Thank you, come again," as a mocking refrain.
"They didn't mean for it to happen," said actor Utkarsh Ambudkar (Game Over, Man!) in The Problem with Apu. "We just were underrepresented. We didn't have any other representation in this country. That creates a problem when the most popular show on television is showing mainstream America what an Indian is."

This is the same stupid argument as Pepe was stolen by the alt right....

Just because some idiots say or use something does not mean that is the general opinion on something....

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Just because some idiots say or use something does not mean that is the general opinion on something...

How would you feel if you came to the US and every time you met someone new and they heard your German accent they gave you the nazi salute because that is their only frame of reference for Germans and they think it's funny? What if it happened every day for 25 years? I can tell you as a 40 something black person in the US (where black people have existed for a long time) that it's annoying as fuck when people assume things about you as a person based on what you look/sound like because of what they see in movies/TV or what they hear in rap music.

Media representation is important because idiots are the majority and they take everything they see in the media as gospel and apply that to their worldview.

 

[dolabla]

Imagine being such a freaking pussy that you're offended by a show that literally makes fun of anything and everything. SJWs are miserable human beings.

 

[TrainedRage]

God I really pity some people. It must be so hard to go a day without getting distraught over a cartoon that's been on for over 30 years. How to these people live their lives?

 

[lil puff]

I don't think the author came off as distraught or overly offended, he was actually pretty lighthearted about it all, from the interviews I saw. I just , like others am not going to get bent out of shape over Apu's character, anymore than I would Smurfette.

I guess I am glad he was able to spur some discussion in some circles.

 

[dolabla]

God I really pity some people. It must be so hard to go a day without getting distraught over a cartoon that's been on for over 30 years. How to these people live their lives?

That's a good question. When you're perpetually outraged over everything, what exactly do you do/watch to get by? I think the only coolest SJW in existence is PC Principal.

 

[TheShadowLord]

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It seems like Apu has grown. He's become a citizen, he found a wife, he's a small business owner with a PhD in computer science, he has a family now. All Kandabolu is saying just make him 20% richer? I get his issues about growing up indian when Apu was the most famous indian on TV but his "solution," is pretty weak.

Seems like what he's asking for Apu to become is what Apu already is.

hypothically speaking making Apu get a job that involves a PhD in computer science would give him a higher raise. Would still be seen as a stereotype, but not the kind of stereotype Kandabolu is talking about

 

[Dunki]

How would you feel if you came to the US and every time you met someone new and they heard your German accent they gave you the nazi salute because that is their only frame of reference for Germans and they think it's funny? What if it happened every day for 25 years? I can tell you as a 40 something black person in the US (where black people have existed for a long time) that it's annoying as fuck when people assume things about you as a person based on what you look/sound like because of what they see in movies/TV or what they hear in rap music.

Media representation is important because idiots are the majority and they take everything they see in the media as gospel and apply that to their worldview.

First of all for most people APU is a very loved person and secondly I would not care at all. Call me Nazi all you want I do know that I am not one. Also I DOUBT that people who see an Indian person on the street suddendly do the apu accent. That is just ridiculous.

Also he wants to competley change his persona, and his life. IT is not even lone about the accent. He wants to make him owning a few stores instead of working in one compeltley ignoring the fact that APU would not even live there anymore if he was rich.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

I would not care at all. Call me Nazi all you want I do know that I am not one.

I somehow doubt this as you've made it your modus operandi to rage on these boards about "the left" and what they're calling people on twitter.

Also I DOUBT that people who see an Indian person on the street suddenly do the Apu accent.

That's very charitable.

 

[LegendOfKage]

As Kondabolu made clear in his film, the problem with Apu extends beyond a brown character voiced by a white actor; the problem was not just with The Simpsons, but with its viewers, the drunk idiots on the street who call any South-Asian person "Apu" and who repeated "Thank you, come again," as a mocking refrain.
"They didn't mean for it to happen," said actor Utkarsh Ambudkar (Game Over, Man!) in The Problem with Apu. "We just were underrepresented. We didn't have any other representation in this country. That creates a problem when the most popular show on television is showing mainstream America what an Indian is."

I'm old enough that I remember when the Simpsons premiered, and I never once called an Indian "Apu," or mockingly yelled a catchphrase at them, or thought that Indians were more likely to work in a convenience store.

This isn't a fault with under representation, it's a fault of bad parenting.

Secondly, being rich or financially successful isn't itself an "honorable" human condition. Apu is a good man, he is a religious man, he's an independent man who can think for himself. He enjoys working at the quickie mart, and has a strong devotion to his job, and work ethic in general. He's also a proud American citizen. He was prepared to ignore the marital traditions of his family, but decided against it when he and his bride to be found that they were actually quite attracted to each other, both in a physical and an emotional sense.

When he and his wife had issues conceiving children, turning to science resulted in having eight children, which would be financially draining for any family. But he's still making it work, even if it means working long hours to support his family.

That's a perfectly honorable and respectable life. Apu doesn't need to be rich to be respectable or happy, and anyone who feels he does should probably reconsider their values.

And if someone wants to take all of that and yell "thank you, come again" at people, then fuck them. I hope they fall down a well while trying to get their radio back because it has an incriminating label on the side.

 

[Dunki]

I somehow doubt this as you've made it your modus operandi to rage on these boards about "the left" and what they're calling people on twitter.


That's very charitable.

IF I rage against people I rage against them based on their ideology not their race or gender. There is a HUGE difference here my friend.

But I love how you actually try to make me believe that like everyone is shouting APU ant an Indian person they see on the street. I mean if you want to make an argument against artistic freedom maybe try something more believable. Reminds me of this