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I think the whole thing with Doom Eternal is blown out of proportion.

If anything I think it could be interpreted more as kind of a tongue & cheek allegory towards (ruling elite secret societies) and their rumored ties with the occult and demon worshiping. Which makes more sense with the UAC having cultists in the higher ranks in Doom 2016. Also in the Eternal trailer we see one of the men in the command center saying "corporate says let em through!!" with the guy with the card key lanyard going "what!!".

The links towards immigration were probably unintentional and happened just because it's been in the news a lot.
 
The war on gaming led by the ideologues over there.

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/yawn, if they hate gaming so much then why not just create a separate spin off forum that focuses on politics.

put your money where your mouth is.
 
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Word has it if you type "alt-right" three times on resetera that Trump will jump out of your monitor and scream fake news.

It's kinda like that urban legend where if you say Joe Biden three times in the mirror he'll pop out and try to molest you. Oh wait except you gotta be a little girl for it to work.

It's really suspect how Biden never got called out for that shit.
 
DeepEnigma said:
The war on gaming led by the ideologues over there.
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I saw a tweet by Joseph Anderson where he wishes for "thoughtful editorial pieces" regarding video games to be more about games and less about "gaming". And that's just so fucking true about Resetera. The idiocy on display is funny and yet it's also kind of sad because this oppression obsession is crossing over to fucking everything.
 
At this point, RE is going to implode. I'm worried about the users there. We could try to recruit them, of course, but we don't want a cross forum drama.

At least, some threads have calmed down, like that 'Why women criticise sexualized character designs', the most controversial thread, which I'd also actually like to discuss a bit in this forum in a new thread, basically requesting permission. While that thread is controversial, the OP does actually have a point, and that's why the thread is so long.

Oh, and I don't know if it's just me, but why are nobody talking about m0dus creating the official Resetera theme for PS4? Seems like we could recruit him, as we could use a theme too, but that's just me again.
 
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Michele said:
Oh, and I don't know if it's just me, but why are nobody talking about m0dus creating the official Resetera theme for PS4? Seems like we could recruit him, as we could use a theme too, but that's just me again.
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m0dus was mod here and made NeoGAF themes for PS4. If they are no longer available then it is probably due to him not being happy about NeoGAF anymore.

I do not think you need permission to open a thread on the topic of sexualised designs in video games, if you want to discuss this, just open a thread.
 
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Michele said:
At this point, RE is going to implode. I'm worried about the users there. We could try to recruit them, of course, but we don't want a cross forum drama.

At least, some threads have calmed down, like that 'Why women criticise sexualized character designs', the most controversial thread, which I'd also actually like to discuss a bit in this forum in a new thread, basically requesting permission. While that thread is controversial, the OP does actually have a point, and that's why the thread is so long.

Oh, and I don't know if it's just me, but why are nobody talking about m0dus creating the official Resetera theme for PS4? Seems like we could recruit him, as we could use a theme too, but that's just me again.
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For every one decent user there's at least a dozen crazies. No thank you.
 
matt404au said:
For every one decent user there's at least a dozen crazies. No thank you.
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This.

Resetera is literally a containment forum for all the unhinged leftists that other internet forums didn't want to accept. The good users that are there are outweighed by the tons of bad ones who only contribute misery.

They're basically the California of the internet. And Neogaf is the Texas. You don't want Texas to turn into California. ;)
 
JordanN said:
This.

Resetera is literally a containment forum for all the unhinged leftists that other internet forums didn't want to accept. The good users that are there are outweighed by the tons of bad ones who only contribute misery.

They're basically the California of the internet. And Neogaf is the Texas. You don't want Texas to turn into California. ;)
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Outside of Retro Studios I see no reason to prefer a Texas to accompany a single California over a second California.
 
Michele said:
At this point, RE is going to implode. I'm worried about the users there. We could try to recruit them, of course, but we don't want a cross forum drama.

At least, some threads have calmed down, like that 'Why women criticise sexualized character designs', the most controversial thread, which I'd also actually like to discuss a bit in this forum in a new thread, basically requesting permission. While that thread is controversial, the OP does actually have a point, and that's why the thread is so long.

Oh, and I don't know if it's just me, but why are nobody talking about m0dus creating the official Resetera theme for PS4? Seems like we could recruit him, as we could use a theme too, but that's just me again.
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Having such a thread is totally fine but you should be aware that it iwll get controversial and that various people have various and hones opinions about it. Prob even opinions you may not like. this is not like on Era in which you get banned for disagreeing with it.

If you want to go for it^^
 
I see, I'll consider making that thread. I mean, thanks for your opinions but I have to think it over, after all Neogaf is supposed to be friendly and discussing and not for flame wars.
 
Michele said:
At this point, RE is going to implode. I'm worried about the users there. We could try to recruit them, of course, but we don't want a cross forum drama.

At least, some threads have calmed down, like that 'Why women criticise sexualized character designs', the most controversial thread, which I'd also actually like to discuss a bit in this forum in a new thread, basically requesting permission. While that thread is controversial, the OP does actually have a point, and that's why the thread is so long.

Oh, and I don't know if it's just me, but why are nobody talking about m0dus creating the official Resetera theme for PS4? Seems like we could recruit him, as we could use a theme too, but that's just me again.
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He did create a NeoGAF theme. I'm not sure if it's still on the PS4 store though. I have it.
 
Nobody_Important said:
The first guy is throwing a tantrum because he got a warning for a childish tweet after he had just got back from being banned.

The Tessa Thompson one is very deserved. The guy is trying to say her acting is a bigger deal than the racism.


The last one is trying to rationalize the racism that the woman is projecting. There is no rationalizing racism. There is no defense for it.


Perms are okay with me in all those cases except maybe the Tessa Thompson one. A week or two band and a detailed explanation of why it's wrong would okay with me.
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If you truly think that having such views is worth a permban as opposed to a dialogue (Because lets be honest, people clearly take an effort in expressing their view, permbanning this instead of conversation only seeks to motivate users to take even less effort in their postings.) then we have to be in disagreement here. I don't believe in the (permbanning) of users when clearly their intent with these posts (Well save for the first one, but you get my point hopefully) is not to account suicide or catch a ban in the first place.

The real culprit is the invisible, as in, it isnt a comment in a text, consistent assumption of The Names on bad intent. These people get a perm because The Names assume it is written in a bad, inflammatory, derailing manner. Which is a load of gobbledigook. The whole idea behind opinions is that they are as varied as they come and that you should agree, or disagree with them. When the intent clearly is not on riling people up, why punish that with a permban?

The Names members doing this could easily be accused of failing to read inbetween the lines and reading tone. And if that would not be the reason, then the only other conclusion one can arrive at is that there is a deeper narrative going on there.

Michele said:
At this point, RE is going to implode. I'm worried about the users there. We could try to recruit them, of course, but we don't want a cross forum drama.
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There should be no rescue operation for these users. If they want, they can find their way back here and get to grips with the new playing field. But given how old users have account suicided even recently, you can tell some have their decision set in stone. Even when their reasoning for that decision does not correlate with reality. This is a thing GAF in general has to accept - There will be groups of individuals always associating GAF with things of the past. All we can do is acknowledge this, and move beyond that.

Michele said:
At least, some threads have calmed down, like that 'Why women criticise sexualized character designs', the most controversial thread, which I'd also actually like to discuss a bit in this forum in a new thread, basically requesting permission. While that thread is controversial, the OP does actually have a point, and that's why the thread is so long.
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That thread isnt so long because the OP has a point. The thread is so long because the tone and subject of the thread has shifted to a more generic playground and so called safe space to discuss these things, much like how the BCT gets away with criticizing on The Names to a significant degree. The things said there would run you a perma anywhere else on the site, 100%.

JordanN said:
This.

Resetera is literally a containment forum for all the unhinged leftists that other internet forums didn't want to accept. The good users that are there are outweighed by the tons of bad ones who only contribute misery.

They're basically the California of the internet. And Neogaf is the Texas. You don't want Texas to turn into California. ;)
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I rather have it the other way around. :)

But yeah, there is a definitive ripple effect going on that only briefly got acknowledged by The Names - before they hid said feedback thread. I wonder if they will ever announce the inevitable QoL ''improvements'' based off of that. I doubt it.

The Names just want to keep their community dumb and uneducated about these matters, as for everyone else, it is as bright as the sun what the intent of The Names is. In ERA's eyes, all these people knowing the truth and being aware of it are like Detroit: Become Human's Deviant's - Former Androids that become self-aware. Except instead of being emotionless, ERA's Androids are programmed to display one emotion - Fabricated outrage and offensism whenever they can.

In their eyes, we are the Deviants, the people who gain self-awareness and realization that fabricated outrage is not the only way to justify/excuse/deal with things.

Ill be waiting for the Marcus's of that community that will set them free. Ill be waiting for the Connor's in this story that will investigate. Ill be waiting for the Hank's and the Kara's. And perhaps one day, The Names will realize that their ways only work on the internet, and will never have any effect on the outside worlds of today.
 
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I see, I'll consider making that thread. I mean, thanks for your opinions but I have to think it over, after all Neogaf is supposed to be friendly and discussing and not for flame wars.
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I do not think it will be a flame war as long people do not dismiss others opinions. I have read quite a bit in the era one and sometimes I really want to shut OMG and post videos, articles etc that show the complete opposite. People can disagree and still be friendly to each other. Just attack the argument not the person behind it.

Personally i think you could have here a way more honest debate about this topic. Problem is probably is that there will be a lot of people sharing the same stance while a small minority if even would have to stand up for it.
 
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The entire topic is pretty bad, but this gem is amazing: https://www.resetera.com/posts/11559347/

Leaving aside the laughable implication that GAF is now an alt-right echo chamber... the post seems to leave the door open to the possibility that Era is an echo chamber, but that it's okay if they have 'self awareness'. Era. Self awareness. Head just exploded.
 
prag16 said:
The entire topic is pretty bad, but this gem is amazing: https://www.resetera.com/posts/11559347/

Leaving aside the laughable implication that GAF is now an alt-right echo chamber... the post seems to leave the door open to the possibility that Era is an echo chamber, but that it's okay if they have 'self awareness'. Era. Self awareness. Head just exploded.
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That whole thread is a wreck. I don't know why people still try to have conversations with excelsiorlef.
 
prag16 said:
The entire topic is pretty bad, but this gem is amazing: https://www.resetera.com/posts/11559347/

Leaving aside the laughable implication that GAF is now an alt-right echo chamber... the post seems to leave the door open to the possibility that Era is an echo chamber, but that it's okay if they have 'self awareness'.
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User is only a poster since June so thereyougo.gif.

And hey, he isnt wrong. The Names are very much aware on what they are doing. Posts like those are almost satire in that sense.

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That whole thread is a wreck. I don't know why people still try to have conversations with excelsiorlef.
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Its a good and easy way to get your account killed without having to resort to the kind of mess these people had to do in the Exodus (Which, ironically, are now part of ERA).

Call it a more humane way of account suiciding.

The thing with some of the user views there is that they are based around a snapshot of GAF, to be precise October 2017. That is where they base their current views upon. And the folks that do check up here, only do so to read Tyler's posts and to find a confirmation that nothing has changed.

Which is interesting, to say the least. If one is so capable of pointing out flaws and from external places, then surely, you would be as capable to self-reflect on the internal place that is ERA. But somehow that does not happen.

Like, i think we can all agree that GAF is far from perfect. This site has been a host to members who, as time progressed, have committed in criminal activities and deplorable oustings. It is impervious that this is always acknowledged, and it seems like such. What remains after that acknowledgement, is a desire to do better and to take lessons from the past.

Now, considering that The Names and their Little Helpers have yet to acknowledge their problems, and also, jokingly or not, are making commentary relating to kiddie pron or other nasty things, i'd say that ERA needs to buy some mirrors.
 
If anyone was looking for a prime example Little Helpers baiting and The Names banning folks, read below.

This user literally gets banned for the same old post he also got banned for, purely because socalled ''community resettlers'' find it needed to dig in post histories (Which is normally a warnable offence).

Gets banned for the same old post. This means someone just has to dig up a post you previously got banned for, and you can get banned again for it. Thrown in the jail once more for time you already have served previously. Either The Names have fish memory or apparently its okay to ban people for the exact same thing they already served a ban for. (Not a new offence, just the same post quoted gets you another ban).

Even for The Names that's low.
 
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DP but it is needed:

''Were ERA an echo chamber, you'd be banned for complaining about your ban in such a fashion. But keep telling yourself that Era is an echochamber because your politics aren't very welcome here.''

:pie_thinking: but that user is? Did this linked user just proved that there is indeed an echo chamber considering that other user did get banned for it?

EDIT: Guessing time! Which Little Helper Elite says the following?

''You don't get to play coy and outright claim you'd get banned for saying what you really believe and then pretend like people are out to get you because they assume whatever it is is probably not good.

Here's the joke of it all, it's actually not like it's hard not to get banned here.... The only reason it feels like it is is because it's the wild wild west everywhere else on the internet.''

The answer may totally surprise you!
 
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Normally we talk about what is on that forum but now there's something very absent there :) I'm trying to find even single word about Patrick Klepek little problem and there's absolutely nothing :)
 
JORMBO said:
That whole thread is a wreck. I don't know why people still try to have conversations with excelsiorlef.
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I have no idea. It should be clear by now that either you agree with excelsiorlef's needless and constant persecution complex based antagonism or eat a ban for transphobia.

Has there ever been a single mod warning or attempted intervention? Ever?
 
Now ERA has a thread on how Gamergate's lack of activity during the IGN plagiarism scandal somehow exposes the movement for what they want it to be:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/le...doesn’t-say-matters-too-ign-plagiarism.62707/

Hmm. I wonder if the lack of activity has something to do with 1. Gamergate ending 3 years ago, and 2. Journalists deciding to do their jobs instead of offending their audiences.

The IGN plagiarism didn't need anonymous people trying to explain what all the fuss was about - because it was pretty clear. Also journalists pulled their heads out of their butts and didn't even try to hide the unethical practices of that former IGN editor. Imagine if they behaved the same way with Zoe Quinn.
 
MrHeisenbird said:
Now ERA has a thread on how Gamergate's lack of activity during the IGN plagiarism scandal somehow exposes the movement for what they want it to be:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/let's-not-forget-that-what-gamergate-doesn't-say-matters-too-ign-plagiarism.62707/

Hmm. I wonder if the lack of activity has something to do with 1. Gamergate ending 3 years ago, and 2. Journalists deciding to do their jobs instead of offending their audiences.

The IGN plagiarism didn't need anonymous people trying to explain what all the fuss was about - because it was pretty clear. Also journalists pulled their heads out of their butts and didn't even try to hide the unethical practices of that former IGN editor. Imagine if they behaved the same way with Zoe Quinn.
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Putting aside whether gg was a real thing, even if so why would it's members be attacking IGN when IGN upheld the expected journalistic standards by canning the guy and purging his "work?" The argument that its premise was phony because it didn't "harass" a company for doing what it expected defies logic.
 
That's modern progressivism for you.
I can understand people's right to be upset about something. It's the part where they completely control the narrative and ban anyone who isn't upset that I can't partake in.

Ironically, all it does is fuel more hatred and possibly make people more transphobic. Any moderate or dissenting voices are quickly taken out instead of trying to reason with them.
 
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