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Resetera is not going to crumble to ashes. There are plenty of people more than happy to post there and be a part of that community.

After this indecent of a nothing burger, I think something of actual substance might send them off into a ritual sacrifice.
 
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Yes, you make a good sense. Last chance there, and if they screw it up, users might leave forever the site.
Aside from the posters who are in line. I don't understand why you would want to post on a forum where you can't actually post what you want to say.
Might as well make it a private chat site and only invite people who you deem worthy.

Main reason a bailed on Gaf was because it became a militant grey shell of itself devoid of humour. Once the Mayflower had sailed I started viewing again in hopes that it would open up again (which it is).
I just don't get the appeal.
Are these plebs under an idea that unionising on a gaming forum will make any real changes in how people think?
Do they have any self reflection in going full circle?
 
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ERA is such a weird website when you think about it. Everyone left over the EviLore stuff before waiting for any of the factual information and was like "I hate GAF let's start this new thing". Except, EviLore was hands off at the time and all the people who made GAF what it was were going to run the new place...Why would it be any different? ERA was born out of a fallacy.
 
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Resetera is not going to crumble to ashes. There are plenty of people more than happy to post there and be a part of that community.

There will undoubtedly be a scandal of some sort, though because none of the mods are fucking cis white males, no one will care.
 
Aside from the posters who are in line. I don't understand why you would want to post on a forum where you can't actually post what you want to say.
Might as well make it a private chat site and only invite people who you deem worthy.

Main reason a bailed on Gaf was because it became a militant grey shell of itself devoid of humour. Once the Mayflower had sailed I started viewing again in hopes that it would open up again (which it is).
I just don't get the appeal.
Are these plebs under an idea that unionising on a gaming forum will make any real changes in how people think?
Do they have any self reflection in going full circle?

It's a cult, pure and simple.
 
Aside from the posters who are in line. I don't understand why you would want to post on a forum where you can't actually post what you want to say.
Might as well make it a private chat site and only invite people who you deem worthy.

Main reason a bailed on Gaf was because it became a militant grey shell of itself devoid of humour. Once the Mayflower had sailed I started viewing again in hopes that it would open up again (which it is).
I just don't get the appeal.
Are these plebs under an idea that unionising on a gaming forum will make any real changes in how people think?
Do they have any self reflection in going full circle?
Are you saying Era is devoid of humor? Because that's ridiculous.


Era has MANY MANY faults, but being devoid of humor is not one of them.
 
Some of you seems very obessesive about ERA.

"There's gonna be a scandal that will make the site crumble. Any day now,.."
Not my fault. I can't seem to help it :P After seeing the whole CPDR twitter thread scandal which resulted in a record-shattering 33+ permanent bans.
 
Definitely off topic, but I just read something about this.

I think the study is 1 in 4. And I just read an interesting take on it. It is obvious that no one normal believes the 1 in 4 statistic. The Rape of Nanjing during the Japanese occupation of that part of China has the estimate at around 1 in 5 women were raped. At the time of the study sexual assault was commonly and legally understood to mean at least forceful sexual contact without consent, and in some states it is still a synonym for rape. So when that study came out, US colleges were worse than the Japanese occupation of China for women. Yet, parents and girls across the nation are desperately trying to get into that hell hole.

Why the disconnect? That study defined sexual assault to be basically any time a man makes a women feel uncomfortable in a sexual way. So a guy hitting on a gal in a bar is sexual assault. With that newspeak definition, I think the bigger story is that 75% of college women claim they have never been made to feel uncomfortable at college by a man, which would mean colleges are pretty damn safe.

Yep, the source of the number was originally Ms Magazine who commissioned Mary Koss in the 1980s to develop a new way of measuring rape statistics. They weren't getting the results they wanted so they literally changed the definition and asked leading questions.

Gander Gander you should read this before you go throwing around numbers like 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 and getting egg on your face again.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/campus-rape-myth-13061.html

None of this crisis response occurs, of course—because the crisis doesn't exist. During the 1980s, feminist researchers committed to the rape-culture theory had discovered that asking women directly if they had been raped yielded disappointing results—very few women said that they had been. So Ms. commissioned University of Arizona public health professor Mary Koss to develop a different way of measuring the prevalence of rape. Rather than asking female students about rape per se, Koss asked them if they had experienced actions that she then classified as rape. Koss's method produced the 25 percent rate, which Ms. then published.
Koss's study had serious flaws. Her survey instrument was highly ambiguous, as University of California at Berkeley social-welfare professor Neil Gilbert has pointed out. But the most powerful refutation of Koss's research came from her own subjects: 73 percent of the women whom she characterized as rape victims said that they hadn't been raped. Further—though it is inconceivable that a raped woman would voluntarily have sex again with the fiend who attacked her—42 percent of Koss's supposed victims had intercourse again with their alleged assailants.
 
Many of the gifs are hilarious.
Not just the gifs but the threads. The vagina beer and placenta threads awhile back had me in tears lol


Also the balls in the bathtub thread that's going on right now is high quality lolz as well.
 
Are you willingly or naturally that ignorant?

Instead of asking me if Im ignorant, you can educate me of whatever you think Im ignorant of.

Not just the gifs but the threads. The vagina beer and placenta threads awhile back had me in tears lol


Also the balls in the bathtub thread that's going on right now is high quality lolz as well.

Funny and weird threads like that is one of the things I really loved about GAF.
 
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Funny and weird threads like that is one of the things I really loved about GAF.
Same. It's why I lurked Gaf for so damn long. I didn't need to post. I just went from fun thread to fun thread. It's one of the traditions that Era has kept alive. The joke threads are always great. Especially on the weekend when you can tell the OP I drink or high lol
 
Same. It's why I lurked Gaf for so damn long. I didn't need to post. I just went from fun thread to fun thread. It's one of the traditions that Era has kept alive. The joke threads are always great. Especially on the weekend when you can tell the OP I drink or high lol

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/my-s...t-produced-by-blame-space-starring-tv.842351/

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Are you willingly or naturally that ignorant?

Eh, I can't really agree with a scandal any day now bit. Or that it would kill the site. At this point what would be a scandal to us would probably have them paint themselves as victims who did nothing wrong.

It's what their gaming section will do which determines the life of the site. If they lose that then the site is in trouble but that's a long shot that realistically is not likely to happen.

Same. It's why I lurked Gaf for so damn long. I didn't need to post. I just went from fun thread to fun thread. It's one of the traditions that Era has kept alive. The joke threads are always great. Especially on the weekend when you can tell the OP I drink or high lol

Oh man, GAF in it's prime back in the day was a sight to behold. All the different characters and what not that happened. Leguna, Federman, Gahagiddy, Drinky Crow, Futami, Deadmeat and a ton of others who provided the entertainment.

Capslock's crisis in faith for Nintendo was something to watch in real time after the Gamecube reveal. He had fallen under the impression that the graphics would be so much better than what was revealed (arguing polygons/sec was a big, big thing back then) and you could practically see in his posts a dazed man who got hit with reality.
 
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Now, let's not be so rude. I mean, I know you used sarcasm, but I don't think it's polite to ask someone that.

Because he's misrepresenting what I said. I said there would be a scandal and they would ignore it. Fantomena tried to paint it like I'm obsessing over Era praying for a scandal to make the site crumble. I don't want Era to crumble because it's a containment zone for their bullshit. I don't want a bunch of Era refugees flooding the rest of the internet.
 
Because he's misrepresenting what I said. I said there would be a scandal and they would ignore it. Fantomena tried to paint it like I'm obsessing over Era praying for a scandal to make the site crumble. I don't want Era to crumble because it's a containment zone for their bullshit. I don't want a bunch of Era refugees flooding the rest of the internet.

I didn't even quote you, I talked about there's many people here who seems obsessive about ERA considering how many of the same people are here and think it will crumble any day now.
 
Scandal? Not just any scandal. It's likely there's going to be an inevitable scandal soon.

It does seem like that place is getting ready to implode on itself.

I think at some point the mods/ownerships will turn on itself and a lot of dirty laundry will get aired out.
 
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It does seem like that place is getting ready to implode on itself.

I think at some point the mods/ownerships will turn on itself and a lot of dirty laundry will get aired out.
What dirty laundry? Do you have any proof that any of them have done anything? Or are you just assuming they have secrets because you hate them?
 
I didn't even quote you, I talked about there's many people here who seems obsessive about ERA considering how many of the same people are here and think it will crumble any day now.

I still think what you said missed the point, but if it wasn't aimed at me, then I apologize.
 
I'm not entirely convinced that the moderation over there isn't actually some elaborate social experiment to see just how illogical they can get and see how many people they can get to buy in to it.
 
I don't see it crumbling any time soon to be honest.

Same, as I've said several times. It's like old GAF. Most members just stick to the game news, game OTs, game communities and similar in the off topic area and stay out of all the political/social issue threads that draw in all the crazies and terrible moderation.

If anything it's just a damn fucking shame that we can't have video game forums just be about games anymore and people have to be able to ignore all that nonsense talk games online anymore. And even then that shit bleeds into game threads too often.
 
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And even then that shit bleeds into gsme threads too often.

Hey man, if the game you like is problematic in ANY way, you leave yourself open to righteous dogpiling, and completely deserve to be shamed. Kind of like the guy that got banned simply for stating that he would still buy Cyberpunk despite the controversial tweet. Completely rational and reasonable.
 
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Hey man, if the game you like is problematic in ANY way, you leave yourself open to righteous dogpiling, and completely deserve to be shamed. Kind of like the guy that got banned simply for stating that he would still buy Cyberpunk despite the controversial tweet. Completely rational and reasonable.

And then they banned someone who said they are banning people for buying the game, and the reason was, "peddling misinformation". They are completely non self aware, lol.

And everything to them is "problematic", and if it isn't, they will find a way for it to be.
 
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Yesterday I stumbled across the Manafort jury thread and I saw someone posting this gem.

That type of juror moron seems to be on every jury. It's usually a person with much lower intelligence than they think they have and a loose grip on reality.

And I couldn't help but smile and think to myself that there truly is an Era member on every jury.
 
What dirty laundry? Do you have any proof that any of them have done anything? Or are you just assuming they have secrets because you hate them?
I am pretty sure everyone in his/her life did something that could get you in the past. But they would also totally ignore it. Just look at the YoutTuber one which did loose 200k subs for saying something racist when she was like 15. They are all laughing and stating to get rekt while also defending and ignoring Klepek's rape and pedo jokes.

They will only go for you when you are on the wrong political side otherwise you can say and do what you want.
 
Frankly speaking, in any forum that's very intense when it comes to social issues, the higher profiles (like mods or admins) are also at stake especially if they had a history (even if it's long long ago and minor), so one mistake could be the ultimate undoing of their accreditations and even their personal lives. It's pretty scary actually, to the point you have to look like you have a completely perfect image or something.

The Internet community is a difficult place right now to express your opinion because it's going to be taken the wrong way and can and may be taken against you.

I really stay out of politics and other societal issues and just focus on my games because I go on the forum to just talk about that... Games.

Anyway, just my two cents.
 
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Yes this is one of those ''Long posts that don't cover my neck boy'' things.

For future reference: TLDR: Eyyyy. (Read in Tony Danza's voice.)

RIP Redneckerz :(

He'll be back on Aug 24th for those curious.
RIP redneckers

you get to be mad for a whole week about the s = P
I don't understand the spoiler reference. You mean GamesCom? I enjoyed it.

On ResetEra he has been permed for a long time. Here, her has been banned for talking about Era outside of this thread.
A perm is a perm no matter how one slices it. For backseat moderating, that is. Now i know a few posts where such is perfectly fine by normal members, so consistency is sadly missing here.

he whole forum genuinely dog piles anyone with a different view point. Differing views on any social issues are seen as racism or bigotry. It's honestly depressing sometimes to go to the website.
If anything the Cyberpunk thread has revealed their true colours to most of the bystanders in the gaming hemisphere, and know now how to act (or not act) when dealing with ResetERA. Its a choice they made on purpose, the second The Names would ban folks for still buying the game with a week ban and pointing this out somehow is a more severe infraction and thus a month ban.

They removed the post/link if I remember correctly - but the user wasn't banned. Apparently attempted doxing is perfectly a-okay, but suggesting the tweet was a joke? Permaban.
Atleast that user has had some form of empathy and responsibility considering:
''If you're reading this, I apologize for my actions. They weren't okay. I'm taking a break for now to figure out how to be a better person.''
Which is more self-reflection than what The Names have shown, as either of his attempts would (judging by their system) be a permban. So its good to know atleast one side of the coin has a shred of guilt. Sadly, its not the party from which you had hoped that to be.

You really couldn't have just not signed in? :unsure:

Oh that's right, you had to state your moral superiority over others before you left. Seems that's a common theme with your types.
There is a dilemma here: ERA members want nothing to do with GAF and find the place repugnant, yet at the same time, they feel the need to express on said GAF how the site is repugnant. :pie_thinking:. So that means that despite the disgust for this site, they still attract themselves to it. Like a moth on a flame, i suppose.

I mean, i sure wouldn't make a post on ERA telling them how bogus the place is. :pie_eyeroll:
It's because i am permabanned. :pie_mrsmith:
Since I was on the dev team they were added as admins for no reason other then a pull to get people to join. They wanted GAF "celebs" to entice people to join. They do nothing for the admin team. They never did and never will.

They tried getting Wario64 to exclusively post on there and he said he wouldn't even consider it.
This should serve as additional reason as to why it was attempted to have Besada over there. (Atleast that's a name i can just name as such.). It also explains why one other user i talked frequently to on Discord, and who actively worked with The Names (And i constantly figured this user was a good fit for them considering the selective blindness and extreme views on topics, not to mention some completely nonsensical takes on gaming) just recently turned into a moderator. It just works (Quote: Nvidia) because these folks already were cooperating heavily with The Names to begin with.

Seeing that user having a moderator tag and knowing full well what this user has done and stands for, it was hardly a surprise. Seeing this, i think its the nail in the coffin that The Names aren't looking for quality in their staff, rather opting to look for people who can ban in quantity. Being a proper moderator means you weigh each post on a scale that is appropiate and atleast attempts to be the equivalent to how i would want to be treated on this if it was an IRL situation. Instead, The Names dial everything down to a very narrow, selective worldview: You said this, so that means you are comparable to. It's this auto-assumption as to why so many people get actioned.

Its the kind of thing that would never work IRL (Because IRL, sure, you have shitty people, but most folks are just regular well beings) but with the IRL empathy question removed, it gives way to these kinds of groups to exist. They don't get to experience the repercussions of such behavior. Hence, folks like The Names and The Little Helpers get overworked at something as little as stating that you are going to buy a game regardless of a (mildly edgy) tweet or that someone says a group of females IRL. They have no idea if that is actually offensive (Note: It isn't) , because they aren't IRL. Their existence is on the web, and their bodies are just functional props to act in the real world. Instead of actually solving their problems by proper self-reflecting and speaking up to those who need to hear it IRL, The Names and The Little Helpers rather spend all their outrage on a thread on the Internet.

edit: forgot to add that they offered to give me an alt and would let me post on that but refused to unban me because I "tainted" the name lmao.
Like the above, this serves as additional reasoning to behavior observed there. There is one former member who, although no alt was given, a namechange was issued, in order to remove the negative bias associated with the former name. It had little effect, however, as this user continued to pile up bans. Recently came back from a month ban, and now got served a permanent ban after all the altercations. Even protection has its limits with The Names, it seems. Bonus: Oddly, the person calling this behavior out also got a month ban for ''personal attacks''.

I kinda wish EviLore EviLore hired hackers to hack Cerium - since he's the creator of the forum, if they gained access to him, they could use it to advantage to delete the entire forum.

Or at the very least, DDOS the forum for a while.
This is literally one of the worst suggestions anyone could make - All it would show is that GAF would stoop to the level that The Names are rather comfortable with. It would also be unethical and it may have judiciary repercussions. I think the last thing we would want to have is that GAF is getting a GoFundMe page to fund the forthcoming court case for bringing down and hacking another site.

Both sites are allowed to call eachother out - within reason. Doxxing/hacking is not within reason. In fact, even calling up for hacking/doxxing is in some countries (But not US, i think?) an offense that you could get arrested for. Outside the obvious stupidity that such an action would have, inciting a doxx or a hack is not something you would want to recommend on a forum. That's just my take on it however.

In a delicious bit of irony, the guy who doxxed the Cyberpunk guy now has his Twitter [same as his public forum name] on Protected. Rules for thee but not for me.
At the very least that user has had the feeling of guilt being present around him, enough to take steps for change. To be fair, i reckon that this was coming for this user regardless of this event, as i reckon another, and different event would have set this off. But, atleast he shows empathy, even when its just a little. Compare that to The Names who failed to action these obvious doxxing attempts, but rather are more upset whether you buy a game or not.

ex-mod here Aeana has been shit-talking NeoGAF a lot recently. I don't follow twitter but it was brought to my attention, so I responded a while back. Context:

This tweet is petty as fuck and disrespectful to the whole team working hard here to make NeoGAF a great discussion board despite the defamation and coordinated attacks by the people who went on to form resetera.

These comments from the reset hangers on.... do you think you're the good guys? You're not the good guys.
Petty is exactly the descriptor i would give those tweets, but also certain commentary on the place aswell. Like ive said before: Their views and opinions are based from October 2017. They aren't aware, nor care, what GAF as a whole, you, and the team itself have done since that moment. They are literally unaware of what GAF has done since, in terms of QoL, multimedia, roster changes. That is not in their interests anyway - All they are looking for is some sort of confirmation that GAF is still as equally shit as Old-GAF - Forfeiting the fact that hardly anyone was actioned in the Cyberpunk thread nor does the site just permban everyone on a singular opinion post. People get banned because they are consistently crap-posting, and even then its only a week ban (Example: This guy right here) (Its me btw. :pie_smirking:).

You are doing a fine job and no, that's not kissing a$$: That's just observing the changes to the site. (Watch for my PM in a few days.)

And then they banned someone who said they are banning people for buying the game, and the reason was, "peddling misinformation". They are completely non self aware, lol.

And everything to them in "problematic", and if it isn't, they will find a way for it to be.
I am not of the belief that these bans were done by different members of The Names and as such it shows they aren't really evaluating these bans together behind-the-scenes like it was suggested once. I reckon its more of a one on one affair rather than that they actually discuss these matters over with one another. Especially for certain perms, they are done so quickly its hard to believe that prior to that they asked the others: Hey, lets ban this one, alright?

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I don forsee a collapse or scandal happening.

I think if anything, over time, the userbase will dwindle down to a handful of users. Perhaps at some point they will go into a full "hidden" mode and pay to read/join option.
With the fear of the "outside" world and influence they are gonna become more and more withdrawn and build bigger ad bigger walls to protect themselves from people infiltrating, screenshotting, doxing etc..

The infighting tho is unparalleled.
Every 1 to 2 months a group rises up and attacks the moderators/admins etc..
Be it their Black users, women, LGBT etc.. every month or so ReeeesetEra just isnt protecting them enough and they are livid.

I think if anything what transpired at GAF will happen. A group, or groups of people will wait for the right moment and start up a new forum and steal some members.
It's what happened at GAF. You'd be naive to think certain mods and known users werent waiting for the spark to create a coup.
With the amount of unrest it's only gonna take a spark to see another exodus.

Mark my words, plans are prob in place as we speak to jump ship for a few users.
 
Are you saying Era is devoid of humor? Because that's ridiculous.


Era has MANY MANY faults, but being devoid of humor is not one of them.

Well, the humor does exist in the absurdity of the poster's opinions themselves, and in the enforced use of doublespeak to prevent anyone from having an opinion that is out of line with the mods.
 
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True that. But, you also have to be "their trans" mentality. If a trans person is rational, and tries to come with a level response outside their warped world-view, they ban said trans person and call them "transphobic" to boot. Happened several times, most recently in the Cyberpunk salty tears of faux outrage thread.
 
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I don't want Resetera to collapse.....

It would mean we wont get to see their reaction to a Trump victory in the 2020 election.:unsure:

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I am not of the belief that these bans were done by different members of The Names and as such it shows they aren't really evaluating these bans together behind-the-scenes like it was suggested once. I reckon its more of a one on one affair rather than that they actually discuss these matters over with one another. Especially for certain perms, they are done so quickly its hard to believe that prior to that they asked the others: Hey, lets ban this one, alright?

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This is not really true considering at least one trans person got banned in that CDPR tweet thread.
 
Like the above, this serves as additional reasoning to behavior observed there. There is one former member who, although no alt was given, a namechange was issued, in order to remove the negative bias associated with the former name. It had little effect, however, as this user continued to pile up bans. Recently came back from a month ban, and now got served a permanent ban after all the altercations. Even protection has its limits with The Names, it seems. Bonus: Oddly, the person calling this behavior out also got a month ban for ''personal attacks''.
I should also add someone there gave me a alt, because their IP checking system sucks ass and they banned me on that one too. So literally I needed an approved alt that they knew about lmao. I did tell them i had one and still they banned it.
 
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