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Cunth said:
I love when re trolls come over here with new accounts acting like regular video-game-playing joes, but immediately give themselves away through the vocabulary they use
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This meme gets so much mileage

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Thread about "how to properly disagree with something" is going places

I never thought i'd ever see a thread about how to properly disagree with something to begin with.
 
A Resetera user demonstrates he is dumber than bricks.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tr...ravan-as-an-option.78461/page-8#post-14514867

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It's crazy seeing this new generation of people who will absolutely throw their country under the bus in favor of some invaders.

Edit: Taken from a different thread, but the irony is overwhelming.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/yo...e-is-it-still-true.78586/page-6#post-14535214

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Communism and crazy rich do not go together, comrade.
Well, it does, but the results are always bloodthirsty dictators.

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JordanN said:
A Resetera user demonstrates he is dumber than bricks.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tr...ravan-as-an-option.78461/page-8#post-14514867

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It's crazy seeing this new generation of people who will absolutely throw their country under the bus in favor of some invaders.

Edit: Taken from a different thread, but the irony is overwhelming.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/yo...e-is-it-still-true.78586/page-6#post-14535214

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Communism and crazy rich do not go together, comrade.
Well, it does, but the results are always bloodthirsty dictators.

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Communists...progressive... smh
 
Also keep in mind, Resetera is ok with self identifying communists.

If you identify as a Republican or hell, even a Centrist, you get called a Nazi and banned.

But when you identify with Communism, which has killed millions of people, it's ok!
 
Indeed

https://www.resetera.com/threads/when-can-someone-be-considered-white.78778/

There is a difference between whiteness as a racial category (which lacks scientific legitimacy) and whiteness as a social construct (which is both a social institution and identity that affords privileges to certain groups and is determined by a multitude of factors, including skin color, ethnic identity and national origin).
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Rather than being "White"

The proper term should be "White Passing"

The context being used is more accurate to how the concept is being applied. Its essentially relating the idea that someone has the potential to be adopted into "whiteness" in a cultural sense despite not being specifically possessing Caucasian or Aryan descent.

The term has a lot of cultural weight and its defined on a case by case basis. You can look and clearly identify a European Spanish Man, he may even have a hint/tinge of beige and he would very well be considered "white passing". However, this gesture usually wouldn't be offered to someone of Mexican descent.

I really don't know if that is specifically skin color (since there are light mexicans also) but for most white americans, if you look close enough to simply being white then that can get you by with most people.
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lotta gender studies grads over there
 
JordanN said:
Mr.Game and Watch is a hate symbol!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sm...k-or-brown-fighter.78459/page-3#post-14486245

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That was actually pretty funny and clever reply :D Wouldn't say it's racist reply but immature at most, still funny though.
What makes it more funny are the replies where people are seriously explaining that's not a skin color but that's just a silhouette.


PKM said:
They have done it... they have reached PEAK REE FORM..

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-please-stop-using-the-word-boys-to-address-the-room.78465/


This...this...this is a troll thread right?!?!
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Wow...

However, if the room would have women who identify themselves as men but haven't told it to anyone, wouldn't they be glad to be called one of the boys :unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mother-of-three-shoots-intruder.78821/

"And suddenly all the dead to date won't matter because of this one story. This is America."

"I really am not sure why this is thread worthy. Enjoy masturbating over your own vigilante fantasies."

"There's no reason for her to use a gun in this situation."

"Sorry dead kids what could have been accomplished easily with a taser was done with a gun so we gotta keep having those funerals."

"Did I offend your crazy gun nut sensibilities?"

"Ban all guns...Fuck the police"

"All these people who need guns to protect their family should really just invest in a safe room rather than keeping a murder device in their home."

"Looks like she lives in a fairly affluent area and can easily afford to install a home security system which is a far safer and more effective method for keeping out intruders, but good on her for getting to satiate her bloodlust."


The rational Left people... Soak it in.
 
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Patrick S. said:
Un cacho de pan :) We used to say "está más buena que un cacho pan" when we were talking about a pretty girl. Canary islands slang :p
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Oh i see, my primary language is portuguese so i didnt get that reference hehe

Cunth said:
Indeed

https://www.resetera.com/threads/when-can-someone-be-considered-white.78778/


lotta gender studies grads over there
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Why so much obsession over being white/black in this forum? or is that a America thing in general?

JordanN said:
Also keep in mind, Resetera is ok with self identifying communists.

If you identify as a Republican or hell, even a Centrist, you get called a Nazi and banned.

But when you identify with Communism, which has killed millions of people, it's ok!
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Yeah, although many people on that forum are against communism at least.
 
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TrainedRage said:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mother-of-three-shoots-intruder.78821/

"And suddenly all the dead to date won't matter because of this one story. This is America."

"I really am not sure why this is thread worthy. Enjoy masturbating over your own vigilante fantasies."

"There's no reason for her to use a gun in this situation."

"Sorry dead kids what could have been accomplished easily with a taser was done with a gun so we gotta keep having those funerals."

"Did I offend your crazy gun nut sensibilities?"

"Ban all guns...Fuck the police"

"All these people who need guns to protect their family should really just invest in a safe room rather than keeping a murder device in their home."

"Looks like she lives in a fairly affluent area and can easily afford to install a home security system which is a far safer and more effective method for keeping out intruders, but good on her for getting to satiate her bloodlust."


The rational Left people... Soak it in.
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Wow what a bunch of Reetards.

"This guy could have easily been defeated with Kung Fu and a vegan diet"

Hopefully one of those Retarded comments aren't from someone still on Gaf.
 
JordanN said:
Also keep in mind, Resetera is ok with self identifying communists.

If you identify as a Republican or hell, even a Centrist, you get called a Nazi and banned.

But when you identify with Communism, which has killed millions of people, it's ok!
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I just want it on the record that aspects of communism are actually pretty good to have. The kind of communism you refer to, the ones that kill millions of people, abused the system with capitalistic influences. Stalin's communism paints the name in a terrible light when aspects of the communist theory are perfectly acceptable points to have in a party.
 
Redneckerz said:
I just want it on the record that aspects of communism are actually pretty good to have. The kind of communism you refer to, the ones that kill millions of people, abused the system with capitalistic influences. Stalin's communism paints the name in a terrible light when aspects of the communist theory are perfectly acceptable points to have in a party.
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The "acceptable points" you are referring to find their root elsewhere outside and prior to Communism. Stalin's abuses were not due to "capitalistic influences", nor were Lenin's.

Read Engels and Marx, especially Engels. Then read Darkness at Noon or Warning to the West if you dare.

It was rotten from the start.
 
Redneckerz said:
I just want it on the record that aspects of communism are actually pretty good to have. The kind of communism you refer to, the ones that kill millions of people, abused the system with capitalistic influences. Stalin's communism paints the name in a terrible light when aspects of the communist theory are perfectly acceptable points to have in a party.
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Those good aspects are only on paper - they never get implemented in real world communism
 
Redneckerz said:
I just want it on the record that aspects of communism are actually pretty good to have.
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Please don't go that way... There is nothing redeeming in communism, it was trashy from it's inception and surely "but that wasn't real communism" is no argument to say that the ideals are pretty good.
Otherwise i will say that aspects of (italian) fascism are pretty good to have.
 
DunDunDunpachi said:
The "acceptable points" you are referring to find their root elsewhere outside and prior to Communism. Stalin's abuses were not due to "capitalistic influences", nor were Lenin's.

Read Engels and Marx, especially Engels. Then read Darkness at Noon or Warning to the West if you dare.

It was rotten from the start.
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You don't know what my acceptable points are. And perhaps you are right that they rooted outside communism.

I am just not going to jump on the general communism is entirely bad bandwagon. Its practical usage has been historically terrible, but that does not mean its theoretics are aswell.

michaelius said:
Those good aspects are only on paper - they never get implemented in real world communism
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That's the point i was making. Sadly there isn't much real world politics implementing that. Well, there is a Dutch party (Actually called Socialistic Party, but emerged from the Communist Party) who carries that torch on some points.

Doczu said:
Please don't go that way... There is nothing redeeming in communism, it was trashy from it's inception and surely "but that wasn't real communism" is no argument to say that the ideals are pretty good.
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I am saying that the practical outlet of communism as demonstrated by history is a shitty one that gave way to lengthy and shitty dictatorships. But there are aspects, as little as certain outlines, that are generally accepted, usually with socialistic parties.

There is a reason why i wrote aspects italics: I am talking about certain details of the theory, not the dictatorial practical outage of said theory, modified as it is.

Doczu said:
Otherwise i will say that aspects of (italian) fascism are pretty good to have.
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I am not going to make a Godwin here. Heck, the fact that i reference it is already enough.
 
Redneckerz said:
You don't know what my acceptable points are. And perhaps you are right that they rooted outside communism.

I am just not going to jump on the general communism is entirely bad bandwagon. Its practical usage has been historically terrible, but that does not mean its theoretics are aswell.
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Respectfully, you don't know very much about its theoretics if this is the conclusion you draw.

And I am not referring to the modern politicians who dress it up nicely, or the individual programs labelled 'based on communism' or the 1,200-word articles that sing Communism's praises.

I'm talking about the actual theories of Communism, such as historical realism and Engel's conception of the family unit. Read their books. Read what Lenin said. Read what Stalin said. They are the architects of communism. Stealing tiny snippets of the ideology and saying 'see? In this laboratory setting it can work' is not going to provide a complete picture. Even Marx and Engel's contemporaries wrote off these theories as pseudo-scientific and dogmatic:

Philosopher of science Karl Popper, in The Poverty of Historicism and Conjectures and Refutations, critiqued such claims of the explanatory power or valid application of historical materialism by arguing that it could explain or explain away any fact brought before it, making it unfalsifiable and thus pseudoscientific. Similar arguments were brought by Leszek Kołakowski in Main Currents of Marxism.​
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In his 1940 essay Theses on the Philosophy of History, scholar Walter Benjamin compares historical materialism to the Turk, an 18th-century device which was promoted as a mechanized automaton which could defeat skilled chess players but actually concealed a human who controlled the machine. Benjamin suggested that, despite Marx's claims to scientific objectivity, historical materialism was actually quasi-religious. Like the Turk, wrote Benjamin, "[t]he puppet called 'historical materialism' is always supposed to win. It can do this with no further ado against any opponent, so long as it employs the services of theology, which as everyone knows is small and ugly and must be kept out of sight." Benjamin's friend and colleague Gershom Scholem would argue that Benjamin's critique of historical materialism was so definitive that, as Mark Lilla would write, "nothing remains of historical materialism ... but the term itself".​

The critique should be familiar to anyone who tries to use the excuse 'not true communism', because even back then Benjamin (quoted above) said that historical materialism was always tainted by the process of transmission and that "The historical materialist therefore dissociates himself from this process of transmission as far as possible." In today's terms, we call that confirmation bias.

This theory about how the process of transmission "tainted pure historical materialism" is why so many people had to die. People are the infection. Marxism is the master. The human nature was the obstacle preventing its pure transition. Therefore, snuff the human life. This is quite literally what they believed and why they had no problem killing droves of their own citizens. This is also why the purges went in waves, where formerly-loyal Red Army veterans and Leninists and Trotskyists were shot in the head and thrown into a mass grave: they may have served their purpose of transmission in the past, but now they were tainting it. Stalin's purges in 1937 were necessary to root out the corrupted forces that stood in the way of 'true communism'.

The moral root of communism -- which Marx and Engels hardly waste a word explaining, because to them it was all about 'class struggle' -- that is so often used to excuse its programs comes from elsewhere.
 
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Redneckerz said:
I am just not going to jump on the general communism is entirely bad bandwagon. Its practical usage has been historically terrible, but that does not mean its theoretics are aswell.
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Well if something looks great in theory, but a hundred years of implementation only brings pain, starvation and death, then it's not good. It's bad.

That's the point i was making. Sadly there isn't much real world politics implementing that. Well, there is a Dutch party (Actually called Socialistic Party, but emerged from the Communist Party) who carries that torch on some points.
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You're Dutch right? Then you don't know communism, you only heard of it. My dutch step-grandpa always talks about "the SP would give us this, would do that for us" - yeah, and afterwards it would end like it always does. Socialists are silver-tounged, with nice talks but with nothing to back that up.

I am not going to make a Godwin here. Heck, the fact that i reference it is already enough.
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But does Godwin count when mentioning fascism, not nazism? Either way i was certain that someone would mention it. The point is, if you can say that there are aspects of communism that are quite good (even if only in theory), then it wouldn't be wrong for me (or anyone else) to mention that fascism also had some good ideas... Even if only in theory, because the only time they practically tried to implement it, it ended badly.
Communism and it's socialist bastard child should get no free pass in such discussions.
 
DunDunDunpachi said:
Respectfully, you don't know very much about its theoretics if this is the conclusion you draw.
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Very true, at best i have read some sidelined articles regarding the matter. I am purely basing this on that and the party programs over here.

DunDunDunpachi said:
I'm talking about the actual theories of Communism, such as historical realism and Engel's conception of the family unit. Read their books. Read what Lenin said. Read what Stalin said. They are the architects of communism. Stealing tiny snippets of the ideology and saying 'see? In this laboratory setting it can work' is not going to provide a complete picture.
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True, but i am already dismissing that side of communism that is historically been proven terrible. And really, i was not intenting on providing the complete picture since the complete picture is obvious and i am not talking about that.

DunDunDunpachi said:
The moral root of communism -- which Marx and Engels hardly waste a word explaining, because to them it was all about 'class struggle' -- that is so often used to excuse its programs comes from elsewhere.
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Alright.

Doczu said:
Well if something looks great in theory, but a hundred years of implementation only brings pain, starvation and death, then it's not good. It's bad.
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You are talking about the practical execution of the theory however, which, certainly under Stalin with all its influences (And despite being part of the Big Three after the Soviet Revolution) is by all intents and purposes a flawed implementation. Even worse - Brezhnev wanted that kind back in the 70's for all i know.

Doczu said:
You're Dutch right? Then you don't know communism, you only heard of it.
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And by that i sought to read books about actual communists during the rule of the soviet leaders aswell as more general articles. I realize that the point that i am trying to make is rather simplistic.

Doczu said:
My dutch step-grandpa always talks about "the SP would give us this, would do that for us" - yeah, and afterwards it would end like it always does.
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This is like every party ever in the NL, not just SP. SP is very much a party voicing from the sidelines - But actual responsibility in a cabinet is a uncommon sight (has not happened whatsoever). There was however Cabinet Purple in the 90s.

Doczu said:
Socialists are silver-tounged, with nice talks but with nothing to back that up.
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Now that really is a generalization if i ever saw one. Socialists actually brought forth the law on euthanasia, for one.

Doczu said:
The point is, if you can say that there are aspects of communism that are quite good (even if only in theory), then it wouldn't be wrong for me (or anyone else) to mention that fascism also had some good ideas... Even if only in theory, because the only time they practically tried to implement it, it ended badly.
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I would not be in disagreement with that. That does not mean you support either of the two though.
 
Redneckerz said:
Very true, at best i have read some sidelined articles regarding the matter. I am purely basing this on that and the party programs over here.

True, but i am already dismissing that side of communism that is historically been proven terrible. And really, i was not intenting on providing the complete picture since the complete picture is obvious and i am not talking about that.

Alright.

You are talking about the practical execution of the theory however, which, certainly under Stalin with all its influences (And despite being part of the Big Three after the Soviet Revolution) is by all intents and purposes a flawed implementation. Even worse - Brezhnev wanted that kind back in the 70's for all i know.

And by that i sought to read books about actual communists during the rule of the soviet leaders aswell as more general articles. I realize that the point that i am trying to make is rather simplistic.

This is like every party ever in the NL, not just SP. SP is very much a party voicing from the sidelines - But actual responsibility in a cabinet is a uncommon sight (has not happened whatsoever). There was however Cabinet Purple in the 90s.

Now that really is a generalization if i ever saw one. Socialists actually brought forth the law on euthanasia, for one.

I would not be in disagreement with that. That does not mean you support either of the two though.
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I would recommend reading the following books if you would like a picture of what a moral community could be. I mean this genuinely, since I completely empathize with many of communism's (stolen) moral ideals and concerns. These books are where you'll find significantly better moral arguments than communism ever conjured, but the authors also come to other conclusions:

John Ruskin's "Unto This Last"
Leo Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of God is Within You"
Rene Descarte's "The Passions of the Soul"
Dietrich Bonnhoeffer's "Life Together" (excerpt; I couldn't find a full pdf)
 
Redneckerz said:
You are talking about the practical execution of the theory however, which, certainly under Stalin with all its influences (And despite being part of the Big Three after the Soviet Revolution) is by all intents and purposes a flawed implementation. Even worse - Brezhnev wanted that kind back in the 70's for all i know.


And by that i sought to read books about actual communists during the rule of the soviet leaders aswell as more general articles. I realize that the point that i am trying to make is rather simplistic.
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Brezhnev wanted to go back (partialy) to Stalin's implementation of communism as the party felt that their grip was loosening too much and they feared they would eventusly lose all control.
That, and the theory that the next (party) generation is always radically different from the previous one. Nikita went softer after Stalin's terror and Brezhnev afterwads wanted to go back to the "good old days".

This is like every party ever in the NL, not just SP. SP is very much a party voicing from the sidelines - But actual responsibility in a cabinet is a uncommon sight (has not happened whatsoever). There was however Cabinet Purple in the 90s.
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Of course that is a broader problem. That only shows that most of the political parties are at least somewhat rooted in socialism or they adopted it to stay relevant. It's easy to buy votes with promises that either you won't execute, or it will be payed by the general public, all for the "greater good".

Now that really is a generalization if i ever saw one. Socialists actually brought forth the law on euthanasia, for one.
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Of course it is a generalization. As i have never met a socialist that is sincere in his belief in the system, without having a personal agenda behind it. Or they are stupid.
The fact that socialists brought the law of euthanasia is no argument - it could have been implemented by any other party + euthanasia is a very emotional topic, using it in a political debate is just as scummy as using abortion.

I would not be in disagreement with that. That does not mean you support either of the two though.
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No, i don't support either of the systems. They are equally horrible for me.

Je bent niet dom - dat zie ik in al die posts dat je hier schrijft. Dus een woord van iemand die in een ex-communistische land woont. Ga niet die kant op. Denk niet dat als een moordenaar en kat help dat die in eens goed is. De voordelen van communisme/socialisme zijn niet afkomstig van die systemen, die zijn meestal universeel.
 
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Michele said:
Sigh...This thread is depressing, and the fans have learned of this thread. It's a shit thread.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sm...t-lacks-black-brown-characters-read-op.78580/

Apparently, the OP claims that Smash lacks black reps, barring any alts and non human characters.

Someone actually got banned for just simply saying 'Mr Game and Watch' for 'racism'.
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I personally never really thought about this and honestly I don't care. I don't know why these people care so much about it, all that matters is that the game is good. I'd be nice I guess but it's not really necessary... i'm kinda salty Twintelle isn't in but it's not because she'd be a black rep.
 
DunDunDunpachi said:
I would recommend reading the following books if you would like a picture of what a moral community could be. I mean this genuinely, since I completely empathize with many of communism's (stolen) moral ideals and concerns. These books are where you'll find significantly better moral arguments than communism ever conjured, but the authors also come to other conclusions:

John Ruskin's "Unto This Last"
Leo Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of God is Within You"
Rene Descarte's "The Passions of the Soul"
Dietrich Bonnhoeffer's "Life Together" (excerpt; I couldn't find a full pdf)
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Thanks for this. I do have an interest in Descartes and i have considered (Or even read, cant remember anymore) Tolstoy.

Doczu said:
Brezhnev wanted to go back (partialy) to Stalin's implementation of communism as the party felt that their grip was loosening too much and they feared they would eventusly lose all control.

That, and the theory that the next (party) generation is always radically different from the previous one. Nikita went softer after Stalin's terror and Brezhnev afterwads wanted to go back to the "good old days".
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Which was a terrible development imo.

Doczu said:
Of course that is a broader problem. That only shows that most of the political parties are at least somewhat rooted in socialism or they adopted it to stay relevant. It's easy to buy votes with promises that either you won't execute, or it will be payed by the general public, all for the "greater good".
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I mean politics in general these days is about selling a product called promises ;D

Doczu said:
Of course it is a generalization. As i have never met a socialist that is sincere in his belief in the system, without having a personal agenda behind it. Or they are stupid.
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I am briefly reminded of the fact that Sartre once wrote if Socialism is Humanism. Not really relatable in this context, but yeah.

Doczu said:
The fact that socialists brought the law of euthanasia is no argument - it could have been implemented by any other party + euthanasia is a very emotional topic, using it in a political debate is just as scummy as using abortion.
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If you are going that way than a lot of things could be implemented by most parties. We aren't holding a political debate, i was simply presenting an example.

Online i tend to keep politics out of my list of topics to discuss though. Offline i might hold various talks on it, but online i rather refrain from making statements most of the times. This is not a reaction towards your commentary or DunDun's, just a personal assessment.

Its also why i pretty much avoid the Politics section here. I'd consider political choice to be a more private matter than one that should throw it out all in the open. In that sense, i try to treat it with respect, as i believe someone's political position should be treated with a sense of it.

Doczu said:
No, i don't support either of the systems. They are equally horrible for me.
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Exactly.

Doczu said:
Je bent niet dom - dat zie ik in al die posts dat je hier schrijft. Dus een woord van iemand die in een ex-communistische land woont. Ga niet die kant op. Denk niet dat als een moordenaar en kat help dat die in eens goed is. De voordelen van communisme/socialisme zijn niet afkomstig van die systemen, die zijn meestal universeel.
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Ik ben zelf ook in een ex-communistisch land geweest en heb daar nog dingen uit moeten leggen hoe zij het Westen zien e.d. Goede uitleg, maar ze defaulten meteen naar het westen is bad.

Ik denk zeker niet dat moordenaars die weleens een kat helpen gelijk goed zijn. Daar gaat het ook natuurlijk niet om in het praktische en historische gedeelte van communisme - Een systeem wat in zijn verknipte implementatie alleen maar tot veel ellende heeft geleid totdat Khruschev de-stalinizatie propageerde in 56.

Leuk, een mede-NLer hier trouwens ;)
 
What's her Resetera account? Scratch that, which Resetera moderator is that?

Also, she complains about Nazis but she is wearing the Hammer & Sickle logo. A.k.a a commie hypocrite.
 
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