Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
You mean other than the fact that the HR people clearly did consider it sexual harassment and called the guy into their office to warn him?
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You mean other than the fact that the HR people clearly did consider it sexual harassment and called the guy into their office to warn him?
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
It clearly was not just that. The guy was so obvious in his actions that the female coworker noticed what he and his buddy was doing from over 20ft away. This is not some discreet glance and then he looked away. He stared at the poor woman and then tried to get fellow coworkers to join him. Those are completely different things.
That HR decided it was enough to get involved is all that needs to be said. I'm tired of these ridiculous excuses. If you don't believe that warrants sexual harassment then I feel bad for you, but I take solace in the fact that pretty much every single HR department in America would classify what he did as sexual harassment. And that is not my opinion either. That is a fact.
If you doubt that then next time you are at work go to your manager or your HR rep and ask them if its okay if you and other male coworkers point and stare at female employees that you all find attractive. Let me know how that works out for you.
I am fucking dumbfounded I even need to explain this at all to what I can only assume are functional adults who have full time jobs.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
Wouldn't be the first, nor the last time that HR or their companies were wrong. For example, the unfair removal and firing of Sean Halliday as the Community Manager from GoodOldGames, or Dominique Moran who had lost her job after being falsely being called a racist for asking a serial dine-and-dasher to pay before ordering.
Or hell, how about a literal false claim of sexual harassment that caused someone to be fired?:
https://www.iheart.com/content/2018...red-to-falsely-accuse-teen-of-sexual-assault/
Your undying trust for HR and those that work in it is admirable, but misplaced and ultimately damaging. Let's be honest - the only reason HR did *anything* was to save its own skin and prevent any further loss of money that a legal battle would allow. Plus the trouble that social media brings in the age of "feels before facts", as you so keenly demonstrate here on GAF.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I'm done discussing this. See my above post, go to your manager, boss or HR department next time you are at work and get back to me tell me how they said it is totally fine that you and your friends point and stare at female coworkers you find attractive in full view of everyone. Tell me about how they are completely okay with that and how its not sexual harassment in their eyes.
Except you can't do that because you know that they wouldn't allow it and neither would pretty much any company in the civilized world. Because I am right. And you are full of shit and defending something that is indefensible. Not just that but you are falling back on bullshit "false accusations" excuses in a situation where they do not even apply. The friend freely admitted what his friend was doing so its not even a false accusation. So get the fuck out of here with your piss poor attempt at deflecting away from the key issue.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
I hate to break it to you, but my PI, the universities HR department, and even up to the provost of the university would laugh you off the campus for trying to suggest that this is sexual harassment. I am not "full of shit", nor am I defending something that is indefensible. I also will not "get the fuck out of here" as the only one doing this supposed "piss poor attempt at deflecting" as been you and your continued disingenuous assertions, and childish attempts at demonization.
Ivellios
Member
It clearly was not just that. The guy was so obvious in his actions that the female coworker noticed what he and his buddy was doing from over 20ft away. This is not some discreet glance and then he looked away. He stared at the poor woman and then tried to get fellow coworkers to join him. Those are completely different things.
That HR decided it was enough to get involved is all that needs to be said. I'm tired of these ridiculous excuses. If you don't believe that warrants sexual harassment then I feel bad for you, but I take solace in the fact that pretty much every single HR department in America would classify what he did as sexual harassment. And that is not my opinion either. That is a fact.
If you doubt that then next time you are at work go to your manager or your HR rep and ask them if its okay if you and other male coworkers point and stare at female employees that you all find attractive. Let me know how that works out for you.
I am fucking dumbfounded I even need to explain this at all to what I can only assume are functional adults who have full time jobs.
First, i will quote the OP for all to see.
"
First off, I'm all for #metoo. And I don't condone sexual violence or unwanted advances regardless of race and sex.
What happened to my friend was simply bullshit.
We work in a small office. This new girl walks in to get Coffee at the cafeteria. She's a complete 10. He motions to me to look at her. She catches him doing it.
Seemed uncomfortable and went about her business to get the coffee.
My friend got embarrassed and I muttered to him "nice going dude, she saw you"
That's all it was. 2 days later He's called to the HR office. Nothing happened but everyone now knows because That's just the culture here.
So here's my friend who may lose his job or be forced to quit because he pointed out someone he found attractive.
I don't know what to say. I'm really angry right now because He's just a guy whose name is being thrown around like he raped her. "
You are clearly changing the facts in order to push your argument, according to the OP what you stated is clearly not what happened.
If this was true sexual harrasment, the HR would have fired the guy (and rightly so)
And this is the fact, what you wrote is simply your twisted opnion and interpretation of what happened.
Lastly, im not from America and i never heard of something like this happening here in my country, or from anyone i know.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Thats actually not the whole story just so everyone knows. The OP continued to tell the story and give details as the thread went on. So there is more information than that.
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Ivellios
Member
It clearly was not just that. The guy was so obvious in his actions that the female coworker noticed what he and his buddy was doing from over 20ft away. This is not some discreet glance and then he looked away. He stared at the poor woman and then tried to get fellow coworkers to join him. Those are completely different things.
That HR decided it was enough to get involved is all that needs to be said. I'm tired of these ridiculous excuses. If you don't believe that warrants sexual harassment then I feel bad for you, but I take solace in the fact that pretty much every single HR department in America would classify what he did as sexual harassment. And that is not my opinion either. That is a fact.
If you doubt that then next time you are at work go to your manager or your HR rep and ask them if its okay if you and other male coworkers point and stare at female employees that you all find attractive. Let me know how that works out for you.
I am fucking dumbfounded I even need to explain this at all to what I can only assume are functional adults who have full time jobs.
I dont have the time to read the entire thread, but i looked at some of the posts of the OP, and from what i gathered he was just a clumsy but never said any word, just made a not so discreet sign for him to look.
I understand if the woman felt unconfortable, and if she felt she had to tell HR its her right, but saying the guy is a sexual harasser is wrong.
And honestly you should stop writing like you are superior to everyone else here.
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Enygger_Tzu
Banned
The devil in the details: This guy supports the #MeToo movement....
And that tells me that the story is even more innocuous than what it is being portrayed at.
And that tells me that the story is even more innocuous than what it is being portrayed at.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Ive also asked you to do your own research. Did you?
You want better examples? Lets look at this recent one first. Within 10 posts one user deems it needed to snoop around in the post history of Tommy 7154. Totally called for, right? Lets look at the post that was referenced instead.
FWIW: This is about Jaffe's recent call out on ResetERA, which you can find here.
My my, a 1 week ban with the reason '' User Banned (1 week): Attacking other users; Trolling; History of severe infractions'' for this post:
The second part of his cite reacts to a user called Grimminski who said: ''Year Old Account 27 posts Ain't nobody going to listen to your bullshit PS: Jaffe's a cunt.'' who in return was responding to a post that said: ''Someone has to tell them. Maybe eventually it will sink in.''. Obviously this is totally called for and that post suffered no consequences whatsoever. (It isn't, in case you were wondering.) Tommy continues to this post:Tommy7154 said:
Somehow the above comment by Tommy is ''Attacking other users; Trolling; History of severe infractions.'' But somehow the person he is responding to isn't guilty of this fact? You would think that it would be Grimminski that would be attacking other users, no?Tommy7154 said:
Then the thread Tommy made about Freedom of Speech is also locked. Kinda ironic given its premise huh? Lets also not forget that a user named Kalmakoffee told the OP to fuck off but like Grimminski, isn't even so much warned for this. Totally fair ofcourse. I guess it was not a productive discussion after all.
Here is another user getting permabanned for what seems to be a reasonable posting. Community whining it is! (I post this link just as an additional source of info, not an extensive part of the argument)
But wait wait wait... Ofcourse this sole example would not be enough for you. Tommy might also be a nazi, so lets focus on two users in particular, Enzom21 and Excelsior. Since you don't seem to believe that some members are baiting others into a ban, perhaps i have to illustrate it, since the above example isn't about baiting but showing deviating and inconsistent moderating for harmless opinions. The following examples are to illustrate that baiting indeed happens and causes users to get banned (Let alone that people like Enzom and Excel report these users because of it). Ill limit it to two examples each (EDIT: Scrap that, Excel gets more) but extensively linked with context to establish the argument, as it would be undoable to link multiple examples and not give them the same kind of treatment (I have a life aswell, believe it or not)
Here is a thread page revolving around users Zackiechan and Dr Wily who get questioned by not only Enzom but also RedMercury, another one of those baiting folks and actually a prime provoker of this craft. Watch as how the two react when facts are presented. It goes too far to list every individual post here, i reckon you can read the thread page by yourself. Ofcourse, DrWily got banned since he fell for the bait. Read this VOAT link that sums it up far better than i ever could (And it saves me writing this out). <- If you needed a good example of baiting, this whole thing might be worth looking into.
Here is a police officer getting Permabanned for making a well sounded statement. To illustrate the bait, ill show you what post this user named Patrol was responding to from Enzom21. Enzom's post:
The above is a baiting question, in case you were wondering.
Patrol's answer:
User Banned (Permanent): History of defending and dismissing police brutality. Previous infraction for similar behaviour. Account in junior phase. Read the prior posts for more context, including some great contributions from fellow baiter DigitalOP. Relevant context here: Patrol is a police officer himself. This is a proper example of how baiting can lead to a ban, so i hope that just by purely using Enzom i have elaborated this point enough. Apparently this same Patrol got banned from OldGAF aswell, so makes you wonder, hm?
Bonus: this user tells Patrol: ''Fuck you you racist racist piece of shit! I'll gladly take my ban for telling you one more again fuck you racist piece of shit'' and does not get a ban or even a warning for attacking other members/inflammatory. Strange, isnt it?
Bonus 2: Enzom also believes a user being upset with mod Slayven must be because Slayven is black. I am not even kidding here. In case you were wondering why Enzom21 loves to ask The Racial Question over and over to banned or warned users.
But lets not forget Excelsiorlef in this case too. Someone with over 27k posts is bound to slip up, no? Except she is rather consistent with this.
Here is a story of a user who wants to travel the world on a sailboat and has planned this along with his wife and daugther, who wont come with him when this happens in 5 years when the daugther is 10. See this post for explanation. Excelsior then proceeds to bait, complain and call the user a deadbeat dad, among other things, displaying condescend, judgemental, and tone policing, because that's what you do, no? Fellow member of The Names Morrigan has to step in at page 6.
Here is Zattmurdock getting banned for a week for ''Inflammatory comparison, accumulated infractions''. This post by Excelsiorlef suggests she hitted the report button (Without directly stating it so, obviously. If you are at this point in reading, Nobody: This is the part where you have to read inbetween the lines in order to understand why i am saying what i am saying in this thread.)
Here is a user disagreeing with Excelsiorlef that Brianna Wu isn't trans. Excelsior claims she isn't. This user disagrees, and eats a permban for ''Transphobic content'' because she makes a rather light comparison. Even so, do you think that's worth a perma?
Excel can also ask baiting questions, by the way.
If you want a graph showcasing the kind of baiting, here is one from 4 months ago showing the reply-actions to Excelsiorlef. Reply-actions happens when a moderator acts upon a poster replying to this user or Excel replies to this user (In this case Excelsiorlef). Now that you know this, the graph is in the spoiler below. Please be advised that this is from data from 4 months ago, and might have been worse since. (In case you want to try it out yourself, here is the link. Be warned, the site might load slowly as it computes the graph.) The blue i believe represents warnings, and the red bans, the thickness i believe represents the amount of times Excel replied to a user. In case you were wondering that there is a grand scheme pertaining that baiting is a illusion. It is now visually represented by the posts these users have made themselves, it is thus a statistical fact.
Bonus: You can also just look for yourself how amazing Excel is, with this link and this one. Warning: VOAT contains commentary i personally distance myself from and i would not use this language or support it.
Disclaimer: I do believe my Enzom examples are more established and understandable than my Excel examples, but in general i think both serve the point i want to bring across, namely that both users are terrible.
Now, kindly go right ahead and some own research before reaching conclusions that there is a grand scheme or anything.
Its because you didn't look at the context and just looked at that post directly. I am assuming that people can do that on their own. Unless you want me to provide all posts pertaining and correlating with these posts, but at that point, we have to question if autonomous fact finding is something to be expected here. What's more, you also twist your own words later on in texts. See also this sideways post.
Is it really not? Because you are the only user here on GAF that consistently places doubt on bans and recurringly also claim that ERA staff isn't flawless. Whilst i buy into the latter part, i don't buy the former. This consistent doubting of obvious misuse of staff perks is further enhanced by the fact you repeately have mentioned to see some of the mention staff as friends or people you interact with.
Thus, it is not strange that people want to connect the dots, no matter how you opposed you are at that. And, concurrently, i am starting to believe that notion aswell. You can't deny that such behavior comes across as strange and taking a defendist attitude at some of ERA's staff members, despite that you have also said some of their policies are not right either. Considering you are disagreeing with obvious, although not pitch perfect (admittely) examples and apparently unable to read the context behind them before reaching a conclusion, i really have to ask if it really isn't such a important issue in the first place. Because i believe it is.
And yet, you aren't opposed to playing Devil's Advocate against rather obvious cases. So if the moderation is problematic to you, instead of me and others having to list examples for your amusing, perhaps it is better that you come up with a list of examples of what you consider inconsistent moderation behavior? I am being serious here.
You don't find it strange that:
- Excelsiorlef never gets banned for anything despite her questioning
- Enzom21 near-always asks a question pertaining to racial issues (And also never gets banned for anything)
- One user was banned off-site in a Discord for things that occurred on ERA (Can back this up but after all the linking i think i am good in establishing credulence)
- The ban reasons are near-universal
- Alimanassor has the worst takes of them all and still takes a spot on the membership list
''.... You assumed negative intent on that example when there was none, even when i told you that there was nothing on this specific user that would justify calling it a drive-by post.
To that extent, go ahead and prove it wrong.
Since you have your ERA connections, i am sure you can wiggle some tails there. Or don't, in which case you would have to accept the conclusion that it is very unlikely that half of the gaming hemisphere is wrong and thus subject to bias and a grand scheme of things.
You aren't more clever than anyone else here, and i like you purely for your alternative train of thought because without dissenting and opposing opinion you never get far. There is however a limit and that limit in this case is when you are opposing of something without even knowing what you are opposing for. Which is how one would arrive at the accusation of personal bias and grand scheme of things.
Im not so much against opposing view, but i am against ignoring telltale signs of a broken system. And if you are going to proclaim that the majority consensus is wrong, biased and its all just a grand scheme, then you better show why we are wrong, or provide evidence to the contrary, or understand that your perception might be a bit clouded.''
To that extent, go ahead and prove it wrong.
Since you have your ERA connections, i am sure you can wiggle some tails there. Or don't, in which case you would have to accept the conclusion that it is very unlikely that half of the gaming hemisphere is wrong and thus subject to bias and a grand scheme of things. You aren't more clever than anyone else here, and i like you purely for your alternative train of thought because without dissenting and opposing opinion you never get far. There is however a limit and that limit in this case is when you are opposing of something without even knowing what you are opposing for. Which is how one would arrive at the accusation of personal bias and grand scheme of things.
Im not so much against opposing view, but i am against ignoring telltale signs of a broken system. And if you are going to proclaim that the majority consensus is wrong, biased and its all just a grand scheme, then you better show why we are wrong, or provide evidence to the contrary, or understand that your perception might be a bit clouded.''
Who is to say that even better examples will be dismissed or softened because you don't look at the context in which it is said? I have to ask this because i don't have the confidence from your end that you actually follow the loose strings that are given. As i see it, you just see the end of the loose string and you don't show any interest into looking where that string originates from.
I believe this is the main reason a lot of GAFfers butt heads against you in words that are less advisory and more inflammatory - It is, to many, difficult to believe that one user could have such staunch opinions, but is unwilling to look at the origins, the circumstantial evidence, of where the criticism comes from. Half of the gaming sphere can't be wrong, and if they were, don't you think its far more logical to assume a smoking gun then to claim blindness over what you are (supposely) not seeing?
But if you wanted new evidence: Have a look above. So you don't have to keep an eye out.
This post took me over 1.5 hours to write. If that isn't PS: Ultimately, lets not forget hate speech is also a thing on ERA. This gets no penalty, calling politician Sarah Sanders a ''lying fat sack of shit''. Other perfectly sane comments made in that thread:
-Burn in hell.
-a huge cunt.
-Go fuck yourself
-a lying cunt
-Just like we remember the Nazis as good obedient folk just following orders Burn in hell Sarah.
-feckless cunt
-sack of shit
-human garbage
-I'm sure Hitler hoped he would be remembered as a martyr and courageous leader right before the bullet tore through his brain.
SHS is pure dog shit swimming in a lake of dog shit.
-fat sack of shit
-Disgusting, abetting pig will do just fine.
-a huge cunt.
-Go fuck yourself
-a lying cunt
-Just like we remember the Nazis as good obedient folk just following orders Burn in hell Sarah.
-feckless cunt
-sack of shit
-human garbage
-I'm sure Hitler hoped he would be remembered as a martyr and courageous leader right before the bullet tore through his brain.
SHS is pure dog shit swimming in a lake of dog shit.
-fat sack of shit
-Disgusting, abetting pig will do just fine.
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TrainedRage
Banned
Hey guys. I might get fired for pointing at a coworker. My friend made some thread about it laughing at me.
Also I have not left my house in a month.
HALP ME NAO!!!!!!!!
Also I have not left my house in a month.
HALP ME NAO!!!!!!!!
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
Redneckerz
props for such an in-depth post. No questioning the time it took. Those insults are astounding. I admit when I would be a part of the political discussions (big mistake) it was maybe me and this other poster (who received his own bashing thread) who actively showed disdain for the death wishes and nasty comments...
I feel crappy about it, mostly because I know better than to jump into a pool of acid knowing full well the results, but also because it's appalling how negative that atmosphere is.
Shaqazooloo
Member
I'm pretty sure Nobody Important just doesn't want to risk getting in trouble with ResetEra. We know that they monitor this thread and people have gotten permabanned over there after coming here so...
ipukespiders
Member
The only thing worse than a white knight
is a corporate whore.
Papa
Banned
Nobody_Important
would have to be the most unjustifiably indignant person I have ever come across.
TrainedRage
Banned
Seriously? LOL … I guess I wouldn't be surprised. They love me over there.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
His nickname at Resetera is different from the nickname here, so as long as the moderators don't go out of their way to stalk-analyse him, they won't know who he is on Resetera. So he does not have to fear any consequences at Resetera for whatever he posts here.
natjjohn
Member
Take the L. Definite sexual harassment. Can't ogle co-workers, try to get others to blatantly join in, all while the person your ogling catches you.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Not harassment, so I won't take any "L". You shouldn't promote thin skinned individuals like her.
Ban Puncher
Member
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Wait what? Who was banned from Era for coming to this thread? Can I get a link to the ban message?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I have no idea if these accusations are correct, but it is very unlikely that a moderator would write "banned for writing bad stuff on NeoGAF".
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Well I figured that, but if the person in question posted here and there and was perm'd for something minor then they would have a cause for suspicion. However if the person in question was banned for properly violating the rules then I don't really see how they could say its because they posted here. I mean if you break the rules then you break the rules. Doesn't really matter where else you post.
Does that make sense?
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Why don't you take a closer look at this instead of focussing on one off claims.
Unless you are in the process of responding to that, in which case you can disregard this post and ill await your answer
Papa
Banned
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Lets not instigate this with meme gifs and give Nobody atleast a valid shot at responding. For all we know he might be writing a reply but reading everything up to this point is very time consuming.
Mochilador
Member
Holy shit,
Redneckerz
. That's a long ass post.
Redneckerz
. That's a long ass post.
Shaqazooloo
Member
Shmunter
Was initially supposed to be banned for about a week according to the message he received, however, this ban turned into a perma once he posted in this thread and according to
captainraincoat
the message was shared on discord. I'm pretty sure this isn't the only time we've had a user receive a minor ban on ResetEra then have it turn into a perma ban because they came to this thread, this just the only example that I knew I could find. At the very least, it's obvious they watch this thread.What i'm saying is, is that it's risky to talk ill of ResetEra in this thread because doing so will put someone on very thin ice where a single mistake will result in a perma ban or a light ban will turn into a perma and I doubt you'd want that.
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Shmunter
Member
What i'm saying is, is that it's risky to talk ill of ResetEra in this thread because doing so will put someone on very thin ice where a single mistake will result in a perma ban or a light ban will turn into a perma and I doubt you'd want that.
Nothing of value lost. I find Neogaf a much more enjoyable place to engage with. And personally the slower pace on here makes it a much more of a close knit community. Not to mention being a place where critical thinking is not outlawed which makes all the difference.
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Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
I haven't logged into ResetERA for quite a while haha. I would be reprehensibly immature, but I seldom consider account suiciding to give those irky members a piece of my mind. Only when I'm in moods though.
Elfstar
Member
I can't stand how every time that Dragon Quest is now mentioned in a discussion a bunch of obsessive freaks needs to burst in and to shit all over it, openly wishing for its composer to die, just because a Japanese 80 years old man doesn't (allegedly) share the same exact opinions of a "woke" college student from California.
It's so fucking horrifying and ankward, these people are mentally insane.
It's so fucking horrifying and ankward, these people are mentally insane.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They are all a bunch of bitch ass posers anyhow.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I guess it was a necessity to present my position better than it was before. Now there is nothing but wait.
People seem to not be aware that the person you wishing ill upon, whether its an internet avatar or a real life persona, is in fact human. In the online world, our avatars are our masks: We have the option to deflect all the misery towards our little screen picture.
In the offline world, we cannot. And the famous people are far too busy being famous or working towards a better world/a better life for themselves to actively take notice.
In this i agree with T themagicalkitsune that GAF is not that much better than ERA if some threads are to be believed. But as GAFfers, we also have the possibility to change that, together with the staff. This difference is what i deem crucial into the future of both communities.
I don't know about you, but i do not want to spend my GAF life in negativity.
That it is. I guess its better than nothing.Holy shit,
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
Redneckerz
we're doing well moving on. Soon, all efforts to make this thread what it is will be redirected in the right places, and one could only tell the benefits that will come!
Papa
Banned
Lets not instigate this with meme gifs and give Nobody atleast a valid shot at responding. For all we know he might be writing a reply but reading everything up to this point is very time consuming.
lol how many shots does he need?
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
That would be hilarious tho
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
More than the amount of pokes you are giving to him.
Papa
Banned
Good luck
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Not needed. Try to present a point than a taunt.
Papa
Banned
Not needed. Try to present a point than a taunt.
I don't have the patience to put together a long post of examples like you did, but he's been posting here for 6+ months and has shown zero signs of introspection or growth. I'm quite a forgiving person but I'm not so naive as to believe that lost causes aren't out there. Your effort would be better spent elsewhere as you will not get what you are seeking from him.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
Back when i had an account there earlier this year any mention of Xenoblade 2 always filled up with replies from the same people bitching about female character designs. Once they find something they dont like they latch on for life.
Shaqazooloo
Member
So Era being Era I guess has been calling Paige (Pat, from the now defunct Super Best Friend Play's girlfriend) a nazi or alt-right in the "Super Best Friends is officially cancelled" thread. Multiple people have asked for a source on this and I have yet to see anybody actually do so (though i've only read up to page 13, will read some more in case I missed something), the only thing that people have linked to is this post from Pat SBFP OT:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...-space-traitor-era.482/page-305#post-15221252
Several people since that post have basically said they won't be watching Pat or Paige because of that, but he doesn't say anything that's not true and it's a fairly accurate assessment of Era, not to mention the fact it doesn't have anything to do with nazi's or the alt-right. Just to be safe though I went through 10 pages of the OT to see if anybody linked to anything relevant. I also looked through Paige's twitter (only until Nov 4, theirs alot of crap to go through), still found nothing.
Somebody also linked to The Dick Show Podcast and claimed it was alt-right.
https://www.thedickshowwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Peach_Saliva
I'm guessing the user expects people to there word for it or listen to the podcast. So I listened to the most recent episode that Paige was on and I'm not still not sure what would make her alt-right for apearing on the podcast, I might listen to more but nothing I heard was racist or a sign of nazi.
Is this just Era talking out their ass or is there a reason for this?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...-space-traitor-era.482/page-305#post-15221252
Several people since that post have basically said they won't be watching Pat or Paige because of that, but he doesn't say anything that's not true and it's a fairly accurate assessment of Era, not to mention the fact it doesn't have anything to do with nazi's or the alt-right. Just to be safe though I went through 10 pages of the OT to see if anybody linked to anything relevant. I also looked through Paige's twitter (only until Nov 4, theirs alot of crap to go through), still found nothing.
Somebody also linked to The Dick Show Podcast and claimed it was alt-right.
https://www.thedickshowwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Peach_Saliva
I'm guessing the user expects people to there word for it or listen to the podcast. So I listened to the most recent episode that Paige was on and I'm not still not sure what would make her alt-right for apearing on the podcast, I might listen to more but nothing I heard was racist or a sign of nazi.
Is this just Era talking out their ass or is there a reason for this?
Dr. Claus
Banned
Era is full of shit, as usual.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Im not going to draw conclusions until that post is acknowledged (or not).
I believe a post like that has more merit than multiple posts with gifs making personal references, as that really helps nobody (no pun intended), just frustruates others, and showcases a teasing nature, and not in good faith.
tkscz
Member
ResetEra is the accumulation of people who follow the idea of the joke "everything I hate is literally hitler". They don't even hide it.
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