Was a forum that was meant to be a more hard edged version of era...but the way it's structured has provided a haven for discord groups to target certain viewpoints and downvote.. the users don't get the sort of protection that era mods offer so it's never really taken off as they won't leave their safe space
MetaCouncil is another split forum of ERA that is actually around for some time now (September 2018) and features some once prominent OldGAF members. The selling point of MetaCouncil or MC is that everyone is a mod.
Its also rather exclusive from what i can tell given it has just over 500 members. By all means, it is apparently an experiment for the ''Everyone is a mod'' idea.
I'm guessing that the Era owner is aware of his (?) forum's cratering reputation and is attempting some desperate damage control. Hence the mods "stepping down".
I'm guessing that the Era owner is aware of his (?) forum's cratering reputation and is attempting some desperate damage control. Hence the mods "stepping down".
Saw something on KF showing RedMercury joined MetaCouncil. If you make a new site and invite the same shitheads the same thing will just continue to happen.
They wouldn't be stupid enough to ban someone like Durante, so hopefully he chimes in some more and calls them out for being such a pathetic bunch of fucknuggets.
Wait, is that the Durante guy that fixed a few bad pc ports, Dark Souls included?
Why do guys that do good things sit on sotes like ERA? Especially when they obviously see what a shitty and childish moderation they have and how trigger happy they are when banning people?
Was a forum that was meant to be a more hard edged version of era...but the way it's structured has provided a haven for discord groups to target certain viewpoints and downvote.. the users don't get the sort of protection that era mods offer so it's never really taken off as they won't leave their safe space
MetaCouncil is another split forum of ERA that is actually around for some time now (September 2018) and features some once prominent OldGAF members. The selling point of MetaCouncil or MC is that everyone is a mod.
Actually, Durante was one of initial mods from resetera. After he bash some other user he lost the mod tag. I complained several times about this decision.
People will still hate on Epic Games despite the fact that they have provided us with all this pcuck rage. Y'all should be greateful. Its the funniest gaming related drama in a long time.
Not sure I get the pc era drama. They're pissed because mods don't ban certain opinions about the epic games store? Then the mods started banning the regulars for complaining about moderation?
The fuck? They are direct links from the source. I have no idea why they aren't displayed directly. What's going on there? Because most posters can see them.
The fuck? They are direct links from the source. I have no idea why they aren't displayed directly. What's going on there? Because most posters can see them.
Gonna figure out that. Anw, looks like this serenaguy have his profile discovery by neo+era forum. He study Computer Science, same as me, with is a shame and was a neogaf member who get a permaban before join to era staff. o0
Gonna figure out that. Anw, looks like this serenaguy have his profile discovery by neo+era forum. He study Computer Science, same as me, with is a shame and was a neogaf member who get a permaban before join to era staff. o0
Its probably computer engineering. Programing, datacenter, IT, etc... I worked at ABL. He (SweetNicole) study as well if that steam/neo/era forum was right.
I feel like someone has just pulled back the curtain and revealed the wizard (RedNeckerz) was really just forwarding Kiwifarms crap instead of putting in tons of effort collating information from different parts of Era for our consumption. A little disappointed :'(
I find it absolutely hilarious to see Jawmuncher and others complain that the community is hostile towards them and their moderation. Their community is that way because they're drunk with power and are, quite frankly, absolutely shitty mods. They have zero accountability in their actions, and truly believe people are just hostile towards them without reason.
While the mods here aren't perfect, people aren't overly hostile to them or bitter because they actually do a damn good job. Nobody is walking on eggshells around them and their warnings and moderation efforts are done fairly.
ResetEra mods, and the old GAF mods, seem to have the impression that being a mod makes you immune to criticism. Maybe if they were less concerned with being ResetEra "celebrities" and more concerned with being decent moderators they wouldn't have their community being so sour to them.
I feel like someone has just pulled back the curtain and revealed the wizard (RedNeckerz) was really just forwarding Kiwifarms crap instead of putting in tons of effort collating information from different parts of Era for our consumption. A little disappointed :'(
Yeah no, not this time around. But its odd that browsers shit on the attachment thing when it shows up as a regular pic to me. But condensed in one post, i hope it suffices.
It was definitely interesting to read that as compared to how their usual response is to things that fall outside their scope. ''Its okay if we do it'', basically.
Ok. Just to understand the post pespective. Will be important see those pictures. Besides, that 'other' forum start to show some interessant 'SweetNicole' true colors. I mean, for someone who bully and ban everyone is kinda sad.
Ok. Just to understand the post pespective. Will be important see those pictures. Besides, that 'other' forum start to show some interessant 'SweetNicole' true colors. I mean, for someone who bully and ban everyone is kinda sad.
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won't escape me
But why should I care
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won't escape me
But why should I care
not surprised they're imploding, mods are authoritarian nut jobs
what do you think is gonna happen when you lock every contentious thread, purge wrong think with ridiculous bans because it (they) hurt your feelers
all the backroom mod bullshit, special user privileges and protections ...
wtf kinda bitch ass mods do you have when you perma a mother fucker for :
'User banned (permanent): Extensive history of hostility towards members and staff
The fact that the only thing admins have come here to say is to tell people to shut the fuck up and threaten bans is telling. You've learned absolutely nothing. Your continuous refusal of taking responsibility for this needs and your continuous mishandling of the PCERA community is honestly embarrassing.'
MetaCouncil is another split forum of ERA that is actually around for some time now (September 2018) and features some once prominent OldGAF members. The selling point of MetaCouncil or MC is that everyone is a mod.
Its also rather exclusive from what i can tell given it has just over 500 members. By all means, it is apparently an experiment for the ''Everyone is a mod'' idea.
Can you throw me a PM with a screencap? If you click on it, nothing happens?
not surprised they're imploding, mods are authoritarian nut jobs
what do you think is gonna happen when you lock every contentious thread, purge wrong think with ridiculous bans because it (they) hurt your feelers
all the backroom mod bullshit, special user privileges and protections ...
wtf kinda bitch ass mods do you have when you perma a mother fucker for :
'User banned (permanent): Extensive history of hostility towards members and staff
The fact that the only thing admins have come here to say is to tell people to shut the fuck up and threaten bans is telling. You've learned absolutely nothing. Your continuous refusal of taking responsibility for this needs and your continuous mishandling of the PCERA community is honestly embarrassing.'
The consequences have been that: (And this is worth reposting since these are facts. So no, i am not in this thread as i used to be anymore, but stuff like this, the exceptional stuff, is worth pointing out. These are however far and inbetween.)
And SweetNicole likely stepped down because she used the MW2 boycott meme in a wrong context. This is also what started the now ongoing mod exodus, read the spoilers below for that aka what happened prior: (Warning: Image heavy.)
As after the backlash this generated with many bans, she stepped down:
But regarding the PC thread, there have been consequences:
Hecht's threat:
Bronsonlee steps down:
JaseC has stepped down:
Jawmuncher explains the leaving of JaseC:
Examples of permaed (Veteran) members based on Jaw's and Hecht's posts AKA a mini-Purge:
Thanks for the breakdown and effort put into that. Two things I do have questions on, how did SweetNicole use the MW2 meme incorrectly (is there a link available to the post, curious about the backlash) and what's is the significance of the guy by the trash can? I don't have enough backstory to understand them.
Redneckerz
JaseC leaving is a bit complicated, the reason is stated in the SteamERA Discord, but as it is not public info Im not gonna go into the reason in respect to JaseC.
Thanks for the breakdown and effort put into that. Two things I do have questions on, how did SweetNicole use the MW2 meme incorrectly (is there a link available to the post, curious about the backlash) and what's is the significance of the guy by the trash can? I don't have enough backstory to understand them.
Not sure, but guessing the MW2 was used in a way to mock people that were boycotting a game. The guy with the can is from Half Life 2, in the game he knocks over the can and tells the player to "Pick up that can" its a metaphor for abuse of power. I think it's been memed as "Pick up that ban".
Nothing is imploding. Did Gaf implode when at least 4 of its communities got purged prior to the big meltdown in 2017? Nah, it kept kicking for a long time.
A PC community losing a few members on a largely console-centric forum ain't gonna kill it. Hell, that thread itself is still pretty damn active despite the small purge.
What's going to happen is a continued growing resentment toward the staff as people grit their teeth and post there anyway because the "where else will we go" mindset has firmly planted itself in everyone there. Whether it boils over into something resembling Gaf's 2017 implosion without a big spark, that's hard to say and I'm leaning towards no. I want to say its popularity and influence will dwindle over time, but it still has a net positive in terms of membership and activity even after all the ridiculous bannings.
We'll just have to wait and see, but it might take a while. Of course I'd happily admit to being wrong if anyone can provide me a valid reason to believe so.
Your average Resetter is 5 Foot 10 inches, which is kinda surprising, since you'd expect them to be on some crazy soy diet or they insert god knows chemicals in their bodies.
Redneckerz
JaseC leaving is a bit complicated, the reason is stated in the SteamERA Discord, but as it is not public info Im not gonna go into the reason in respect to JaseC.
No. Noone can ban anyone as far as Im concerned. People can downvote posts to get them removed, I think, but never seen it happen.
Your average Resetter is 5 Foot 10 inches, which is kinda surprising, since you'd expect them to be on some crazy soy diet or they insert god knows chemicals in their bodies.
What's going to happen is a continued growing resentment toward the staff as people grit their teeth and post there anyway because the "where else will we go" mindset has firmly planted itself in everyone there. Whether it boils over into something resembling Gaf's 2017 implosion without a big spark, that's hard to say and I'm leaning towards no. I want to say its popularity and influence will dwindle over time, but it still has a net positive in terms of membership and activity even after all the ridiculous bannings.
What's going to happen is a continued growing resentment toward the staff as people grit their teeth and post there anyway because the "where else will we go" mindset has firmly planted itself in everyone there. Whether it boils over into something resembling Gaf's 2017 implosion without a big spark, that's hard to say and I'm leaning towards no. I want to say its popularity and influence will dwindle over time, but it still has a net positive in terms of membership and activity even after all the ridiculous bannings.
We'll just have to wait and see, but it might take a while. Of course I'd happily admit to being wrong if anyone can provide me a valid reason to believe so.
I don't claim to be perfectly learned or knowledgeable in the matter,
(Far from it I rarely felt welcome on Era and only joined because some people, including staff at the time, begged me to. Yeah it was okay at first, but I knew deep down that the friendly "fresh start" feelings would only last a few months at most, and after a matter of time the community would feel agenda driven at its core. Felt like an outsider regardless of doing things to spark community spirit like doing OTs, making news threads, self moderating my own threads to keep things in line, LGBTing avatars, doing pride month thread, etc)
but after a while I had to admit my own foolishness for giving the very same ones of similar group and mindset that disrespected me and got rid of me here (fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.) a chance to have them treat me as they did prior. I decided to leave the community after my next OT which would have been December, but the game got delayed to next month (In the end though, I got permed before I got a chance to do what I promised and then leave). I was done, ready to go because I was unwelcome, just wanted to keep my word, I didn't want to present pearls before swine and because I don't need a forum. If someone wants to hear me and we can have a constructive talk about something we love, that's awesome, but I'm cool with being me too. Frankly, that's how things would be. That being said throughout the years I have noticed some trends of the members in that community. I don't claim everyone is like this, of course not, but I would be very surprised if some of you haven't felt that more than a few in that community share one or more of the following.
1. Lack of resolve.
These are the types of users that go with the flow. They may have shared a viewpoint in the pass, but are so afraid of going against the grain that they will just parrot more well known or well liked users to feel accepted.
2. Lack of confidence.
These aren't the people who make a thread to ask and assess advice, these are the ones who get pushback for a valid, but maybe not sound to the majority, viewpoint and fold and apologize and bend the knee just to feel accepted.
3. Lack of friendship.
There are lonely souls online. Some people will do anything to even feel something close to appreciation and love. Some of these users dogpile on others just to be a part of something bigger, again to gain acceptance.
4. Lack of healthy mindset.
If there is one thing I've noticed upon my return to NeoGAF is that I haven't really seen any self-harm or suicide threads, at least nowhere in the scope at how they once were here, and how they tend to still be on Era. The truth is, there are people online who are using online communities as a crutch when they truly need help.
5. Need for control.
Wether it be non-objective, agenda-driven moderation or merely making sure that "we" remains a singular force, too many users I've seen feel a need to have a strength in numbers as opposed to speaking with their own voice.
What does this have to do with the "where else will we go" mindset? Everything. There are truthfully few places where these kinds of things can thrive with little to no real-world repercussions, and there are lonely and vulnerable people out there who would feel devastated should they lose their home, for better or for worse. Are they right? Are they wrong? That I can't say. What I can say is that part of the problem is that a chunk of users would feel lost without Era, and will stick by it even if they are, for lack of better words, suffering in silence.
I tend to consider myself a positive person, at least I try to be despite admitting I am not perfect. I know some of them might be reading this right now, to them I say read the first post of this thread and take EviLore's words to heart: it's a big internet.
It's a big enough internet to get help. It's a big enough internet to belong and branch out on multiple communities, not just one. It's a big enough internet to make some real good and do some real change. If you don't feel free to say what you feel, try a different forum. If you are lonely or in help, find help or companionship, it's there. If you want to take a break from things, take a break; you don't owe anyone an explanation. Most importantly, take care of what matter most, yourself.
Where else will you go? Why not inside your heart by taking a deep look inside and getting perspective and balance on yourself, on your life, and on your hobbies.
Just some of my thoughts on the matter, one person's opinion; go form your own, as you should.
Redneckerz
would you host the pictures you post in the last page in another image host? I trying to see those pictures, but none show.
Ellis 's image to the Unactioned part.
