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[Insane Metal]

SHIT. I don't know what to think anymore. AHhhhrrhhghhhhhh

 

[Norse]

Not when games can be taken away or take off a service, I buy a game I dictate what I do with it, not some corporation

Yeah, just don't delete your installed games because those 50+ gig day one patches won't be available for ever.

 

[Bryank75]

SHIT. I don't know what to think anymore. AHhhhrrhhghhhhhh

What up?

 

[Ovech-King]

Sounds like a confirmation how to bring the ps4 games and older up on the 36cu part of the chip to speed resolution and quality wise to the ps5 level of power . Still doesn't confirm the full scope of the APU

 

[Tarkus98]

Nice of you to notice!! Thx.

 

[onQ123]

You know what....




12.4 is exactly the figure @OsirisBlack gave us.

I should sue

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

Man that OG Xbone was weak as. I wouldn't have minded that if sold cheaper, but add insult to injury and sell it for a $100 more, because of forced accessory nobody cared about? So, so stupid. I hope they never ever go back to that stupidity ever again. They won’t. They lost a lot of their...

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Wild speculation that I had before but might not be as wild as you might think.


PS5 GPU has the same number of CU's as PS4 Pro (36 CU's) but it's clocked to 1.85Ghz & it's able to perform 3 operations per clock instead of 2



So someone going by old standards would see 36CU's clocked at 1.85Ghz & think 36 x 64 x 2 x 1850 = 8.52 TFLOPS but because it can perform 3 operations per clock it's 36 x 64 x 3 x 1850 = 12.78 TFLOPS


MIMD better for raytracing & all that plus PS4 BC

 

[Bryank75]

My guy, JustGamer!

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

Interesting...

 

[Agnostic2020]

Guys that patent is about backward compitability . Not native next gen instruction numbers.

Dont fall for that .

 

[Bryank75]

You know what....




12.4 is exactly the figure @OsirisBlack gave us.

How are they getting a 3rd instruction per cycle?

 

[TheStruggler]

Yeah, just don't delete your installed games because those 50+ gig day one patches won't be available for ever.

Other than maybe having a day one patch you can get by it by not having ur console connected to the internet and still force play it

 

[ethomaz]

Nice!...

Every modern GPU do 2 instructions per cycle. That is why you multiply 2 to calc the Peak raw power (flops).

Now he says more than 2 so how many? How it is implemented? I don't see how they will change something that works for over 30 years in PC GPUs.

It is just easier to use over 50CUs.

 

[onQ123]

Every modern GPU do 2 instructions per cycle. That is why you multiply 2 to calc the Peak raw power (flops).

Now he says more than 2 so how many? How it is implemented? I don't see how they will change something that works for over 30 years in PC GPUs.

Funny I'm looking at this same comment from you when I said this last year lol

Do you want to change the base of processors of the last 30 years??? It is 2 instructions per clock and there is a reason for that.

 

[Insane Metal]

Page 600 y'all.

 

[ethomaz]

Funny I'm looking at this same comment from you when I said this last year lol

lol funny that I hold my thinking.... nothing happened in GPU tech scheme to change that

Edit.

BTW just the fact devs are saying PS5 is easier than PS4 to development means they are not changing the base of the CPU/GPUs.

Create odd architectures like happened with Xbox One just add complexity and issues to be worked that I'm sure it is not the philosophy of Cerny.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Page 600 y'all.

Just imagine when we get official specs to play with.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Just imagine when we get official specs to play with.

What your "guess" for ps5 ps meeting ?

 

[MoreJRPG]

Interesting...

What's more interesting is that's Cerny's official account and barely anyone follows it.

 

[sonomamashine]

Yes

all of the above. but ps5 is going to be the 399 king.

Lol which one of them

Intels gains from this idea, for perspective


So the theoretical math could go to 3 instructions per cycle, while the actual average will likely be pushed up closer to the old 2.

You know what... someone said this a long time ago in this thread.... close to 14TF... I need to call him out... @CameFromNearFuture please respond.

GCN had 4 cycles per clock.

 

[onQ123]

lol funny that I hold my thinking.... nothing happened in GPU tech scheme to change that

LOL it's like you're in your own head or something

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

What your "guess" for ps5 ps meeting ?

Between now and E3

 

[Agnostic2020]

Between now and E3

You are not sure about feb ?

 

[LED Guy?]

What's the consensus now about the PS5 GitHub leak? Can anyone please inform me?

 

[LordOfChaos]

GCN had 4 cycles per clock.

No? It had 4 SIMDs, is this what you're thinking of? It also took 4 cycles to execute one wavefront.

2 is from the 2 FMA operations per cycle, it was still calculated by 2.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You are not sure about feb ?

I honestly have no clue.

I like a tech type of reveal in Feb but hearing from differently sources that as of now Sony is in fact skipping E3 would lead me more to believe a blow out show around E3 and reveal it all then.

But again these truly are just guesses.

 

[Kusarigama]

What's more interesting is that's Cerny's official account and barely anyone follows it.

People don't follow because Mark Cerny tweets very very rarely

 

[Agnostic2020]

What's the consensus now about the PS5 GitHub leak? Can anyone please inform me?

Alot of insiders have mentioned its not ps5 final apu. But ofcourse we wont know till ps meeting.

 

[Ovech-King]

Between now and E3

AKA between February 1st and February 29th, eh ?

 

[LED Guy?]

Alot of insiders have mentioned its not ps5 final apu. But ofcourse we wont know till ps meeting.

Oh OK thanks.

 

[bitbydeath]

I honestly have no clue.

I like a tech type of reveal in Feb but hearing from differently sources that as of now Sony is in fact skipping E3 would lead me more to believe a blow out show around E3 and reveal it all then.

But again these truly are just guesses.

It'd be too much to put everything in one show. We need a hardware tech blowout, a software/OS tech blowout and an addressing on what's happening at launch.

 

[sonomamashine]

It also took 4 cycles to execute one wavefront

Guess i had it wrong .

 

[LordOfChaos]

 

[TLZ]

Another black and black PS5 game case concept, this time with the banner on the side like the PS1 cases. By MasterKhan_ on Reddit.

Looks great actually.

Ok this I'm down with. Very classy and nice looking.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

What's the consensus now about the PS5 GitHub leak? Can anyone please inform me?

It's probably accurate but if this patent turns out to be true then they could easily hit 12+ TF on 36CUs since there'd be a 3rd instruction enabled on the IPC side. And they can clock it lower while still doing so.

So for example, 36CUs * 64 ROPs * 3 IPC * 1800 MHz = 12.4416 TFs

 

[joe_zazen]

It's probably accurate but if this patent turns out to be true then they could easily hit 12+ TF on 36CUs since there'd be a 3rd instruction enabled on the IPC side. And they can clock it lower while still doing so.

So for example, 36CUs * 64 ROPs * 3 IPC * 1800 MHz = 12.4416 TFs

so we do have an alternative to dual gpus, nice.

 

[chemical boy]

Is there new PS5 data?

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Is there new PS5 data?

No....Just a random on Twitter that looked at the old 2015 PS4 Pro BC patent, added 2 + 2 and got 13TF. It is the weekend, though.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

so we do have an alternative to dual gpus, nice.

Yep, it could be on the money, this 3 IPC feature. And to be fair to the Github leak, it didn't give actual TF numbers, just clock speeds and CU counts.

I'm curious why MS didn't consider something similar for XSX, maybe they just had a different idea and method to reach their targets? That's not a dig at them (they do technically have more room for safe upclocks if desired), but this is pretty smart of Sony (really, Cerny) if it turns out to be true (which is highly probable).

And I guess that means both machines will be within a margin of error to each other in overall performance, too. Looking forward to the February event particularly moreso now to see if they announce anything that implicitly confirms this 3 IPC feature on the GPU (but really, mainly for the games xD).

No....Just a random on Twitter that looked at the old 2015 PS4 Pro BC patent, added 2 + 2 and got 13TF. It is the weekend, though.

Ah c'mon man, we were just getting into this one too (you aren't referring to this 3 IPC patent stuff, are you?).

 

[chemical boy]

No....Just a random on Twitter that looked at the old 2015 PS4 Pro BC patent, added 2 + 2 and got 13TF. It is the weekend, though.

Thank you!

 

[TLZ]

How are they getting a 3rd instruction per cycle?

Easy. Open notepad. Change 2 to 3. Save and close notepad.

 

[sonomamashine]

Easy. Open notepad. Change 2 to 3. Save and close notepad.

Forgot right click use as admin.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Ah c'mon man, we were just getting into this one too (you aren't referring to this 3 IPC patent stuff, are you?).

I'm referring to "Josh" on Twitter, yes. I guess it is "fun" to pass the weekend!

 

[TLZ]

Page 600 y'all.

 

[bitbydeath]

If all you care about is bit higher resolution, frame rate, and slightly better textures and effects and nothing else out of your HW which may realistically be even 10x faster than... sure...

In other words, yep it was .

Flying in Horizon isn't possible with the current hardware, that's but one example that isn't resolution related.

With new hardware comes new features.

 

[psorcerer]

Interesting...

Looks like a pseudo-technical gibberish.
Move along.

 

[Bryank75]

Easy. Open notepad. Change 2 to 3. Save and close notepad.

But obviously it has traditionally been at 2 for a reason, why 3 now? Will it work consistently? Why not go to 4 or 5?

 

[Darius87]

don't believe this! he points to a patent for bc for timing disruption and freq variations for CPU and GPU but there's no mentions for SIMD or anything he says in patent basically he's lying.

 

[TLZ]

But obviously it has traditionally been at 2 for a reason, why 3 now? Will it work consistently? Why not go to 4 or 5?

As you can tell from my simpleton notepad post, I haven't the faintest idea

 

[demigod]

Nice!...

I'm pretty sure it was O onQ123 who mentioned this. Fuck i still think that dude is Cerny himself.

Edit: posted before i saw onq's post.

Edit edit: reading further down it seems like its nothing.

 

[sonomamashine]

Page 600 y'all.

R R600 you have to make a post.