mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yes. Because we ALL know it cost Sony more than $381 overall at launch.
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DF Direct: The Price of PS5 - Are We Looking At A $500 Console?
Yes. Because we ALL know it cost Sony more than $381 overall at launch.
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Deleted member 775630
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I have no idea what budget the board gave the Xbox division
sunnysideup
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Sony released ps2 for 4500sek/450 euros back in 2000. Thats 20 years ago.
500 dollars is not a problem.
It all depends on what Xbox costs.
500 dollars is not a problem.
It all depends on what Xbox costs.
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LemmingWithaParachute
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This idea that consoles should be affordable to the lowest of incomes as if its a basic human right to own a video game system is stupid.
Really wanted to enjoy Bloodborne, but that framerate and resolution...
Really wanted to enjoy Bloodborne, but that framerate and resolution...
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
the bloodborne resolution is ok but total lack of anti aliasing is crushing. If it at least had temporal aa... But the framerate I was always ok with and bloodborne controls so nicely, 30fps never seemed like a problem for me perosnally
Hostile_18
Banned
Ultimately if your a kid or a low disposable income individual and you want a next gen console day 1 you just put a little bit away each week/month if its important to you.
If it's not then just get it in a year or twos time when the price has come down and there's more games available.
If it's not then just get it in a year or twos time when the price has come down and there's more games available.
LemmingWithaParachute
Banned
I dont mind console 30fps, either. It doesnt need to be 60fps on console for any genre other than FPS for me personally.Some games have really bad framepacing like Mankind Divided or just too low of frames dropping.
Lock BB at a stable 30fps and add some proper AA and ill be happy.
SebastianM
Member
yup, I'm from a 'secondary market' as you would call it, and the official MSRP in my country was around $550 for the PS4 at launch, I was right out of high school that year (late 2013), you know what I did? saved up and got one around mid 2014.
It's not a first necessity item, it's supposed to be a hobby you invest disposable income on.
Dural
Member
The article specifically states that the cost to build is included, so you're arguing that shipping and retail cut is what puts it over the retail price? I'm not sure what the cost of shipping 1,000,000 consoles from China on a slow boat would be, but I'd imagine it's fairly cheap per unit (<$5?). As for retail cut, we've all heard that retailers don't make much, if anything, on consoles at launch.
Sony themselves said they were profiting from PS4 six months after launch, so your assertion that they were losing money on every console sold at the beginning doesn't hold a lot of weight.
Sony's PlayStation 4 is already profitable and on course to beat the PS2's success
If Sony is to reverse its heavy losses, big-selling products like the PlayStation 4 need to turn a profit. The good news is that the company's newest console is already fulfilling that requirement, having already recouped Sony's investment in the hardware, and it now looks set to beat profits...
www.engadget.com
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
This post is absurd. They still generated two billion in revenue at the end of the console generation. They spent a boatload on studios last year and are gearing up for marketing xCloud. There’s a ton of financial resources available for Xbox.
They’re in a much better financial situation than Sony. Sony needs to make a profit on these consoles or it will severely impact the bottom line as it did at launch when their overall revenue tumbled due to PS3’s bottoming out. Shareholders demand the status Sony currently has and the revenue now is a lot higher than it was back then.
Vawn
Banned
LOL Are you serious? 299?
Blond
Banned
Adjusted for inflation, 500 is still cheaper than 299 for the Atari
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Vawn
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Atari released for $199 in 1977. That price is equivalent to $855 today.
policestationx
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Those price points spell tragedy in Japan.
PS4pro+XBX in Japan = 1.45 million units.
Those two consoles are cheaper than the rumors of next gen prices.
PS4pro+XBX in Japan = 1.45 million units.
Those two consoles are cheaper than the rumors of next gen prices.
leo-j
Member
That was before people were paying $900 and up for a cellphone every year
Kenpachii
Member
Jup very seriously,.
Price is more important then anything in that box.
First computer costed 250.000 dollar.
Your point?
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LemmingWithaParachute
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SSDs are now cheaper than HDDs in most pc stores out my ways.
Kenpachii
Member
Go check the price for 7gb's 1tb ssd, and then compare it towards the most shit tier HDD u can find. I will wait.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Where? For the same capacity? Press X to doubt.
Vawn
Banned
Lol ok. Come back and let me know when PS5 or Xbox Series X (not S) gets announced for $299.
LemmingWithaParachute
Banned
Nahp, youre both right.
Theres a $100 on avg gap between a 2tb HDD and a 1TB SSD, though I imagine Sony buying in bulk would get them a much cheaper price than what we're looking at on a consumer shop front.
Phones became a necessity... (which is kinda bad, if you think about it) consoles , not so much, it’s more of a luxury item, 399 is imo the sweet spot.That was before people were paying $900 and up for a cellphone every year
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
I dont think it would be a disaster if one company declares their console will be higher priced, lets say $100 more. The PS3 shot itself in the foot with pricing because besides blue-ray, it didnt offer anything better and third party games ran better on the cheaper console. If XBX is $500, PS5 can say $600 as long as they got the HW to back it up. If its same same HW on both, then you have a problem. Theres almost 90 million PS4 owners, as I said as long as it offers more its not like the PS4 people would jump shit to xbox because of price difference.
S sinnergy
So you do consider consoles a luxury and somehow luxury = must be cheaper. How does that logic work, you are buying a piece of long lasting HW. 15 years later you people still want to pay $400. Why dont you tell apple to keep their phone prices as iPhone3G instead of bumping them almost every year. A Ferrari is a luxury....you want luxury you pay $200.000. Nobody is asking them to price it lower.
Take a PC for example. Remove the monitor and keyboard/mouse....just the PC itself. What kind of PC do you expect to get when you go into a store and you see its priced $400. You expect a piece of shit. So why cant consoles have higher price if they offer quality. You want quality but for less money. Not gonna happen.
S sinnergy
So you do consider consoles a luxury and somehow luxury = must be cheaper. How does that logic work, you are buying a piece of long lasting HW. 15 years later you people still want to pay $400. Why dont you tell apple to keep their phone prices as iPhone3G instead of bumping them almost every year. A Ferrari is a luxury....you want luxury you pay $200.000. Nobody is asking them to price it lower.
Take a PC for example. Remove the monitor and keyboard/mouse....just the PC itself. What kind of PC do you expect to get when you go into a store and you see its priced $400. You expect a piece of shit. So why cant consoles have higher price if they offer quality. You want quality but for less money. Not gonna happen.
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Physiognomonics
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$20-100 Phones are a necessity. >$100 phones are all a luxury.
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Tarin02543
Member
If what I have read about PS5 will be true, I will have no problems paying 500 euro for it.
It's 2020 after all.
It's 2020 after all.
For a necessity people are willing to pay more , you use it everyday, that’s why apple gets away with it, also the target audience is older and has more to spend. Consoles not so much, 399 is the sweet spot . If they launch much more expensive, they will work towards this mark. Hardcore will bite with higher price point , Ferrari’s
which casual joe can afford those ...the console business is about volume . The lower the price , the more you sell, more services are sold, more games are sold , that’s their bread and butter.
enough said.
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bumleforce
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up until recently everyone was saying 399. 499 seems more likely but if x comes out at 500 as well sony is gonna be in trouble as they will lose is power to x and price to s
bumleforce
Member
also regardless of where sony prices it and if xbox series s is cheaper I still predeict ps5 to outsell xbox next gen not as much as this gen but I also think it won't matter as much as xbox users are on pc and xcloud
HeresJohnny
Member
Ah, the "Well, cellphones are more expensive" argument. You know what else people pay more for? Vacations. Houses. Vehicles. Hookers and blow. These products (along with the cellphone) have exactly fuck all to do with a game console. People feel they need a cellphone; it's a means of staying connected to the world and it does literally a dozen critical things for most people. People will pay that kind of money because THAT device plays a key role in their day to day lives. Now, where do you suppose a nerd box fits in their lives? Way, way, way down. It's a casual want not a need. People want to play games, but they (assuming they don't frequent game sites and know about Zelda lore) aren't interested enough to pay half a grand for it. Those are the people who CAN pay. There is the rest of the country who couldn't even if they wanted it badly enough, but they're too busy trying to figure out how to get the thousand dollar cell phone to give a fuck.That was before people were paying $900 and up for a cellphone every year
Seriously, not trying to be mean, but you guys (myself included) live in a bubble related to this hobby. We are not representative of the audience that drives this market in any way.