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Not good at all and this is only going to give people reason to blame Jews for this virus. The orthodox community has been a sore spot with this virus. Its the same thing in Israel where the hot spots were in the Orthodox communities and they were the most resistant to social distancing measures.
 


guys worldometers has made the big time.

Look at Birx's flip through those pages. Notice the Yellow and Red? Thats just a worldometers print out.

I just find it funny Birx's is using the same website we have been pages ago on this thread.
 
I hope our future generations won't have to live in a post-CV world where there is never actually a normal. Can you imagine kids growing up only knowing things like social distancing and self isolation/quarantines. Being raised not to hug or shake people hands and always stay 2M away from them. Are we going to see a start divide where we will be like back in my day we went to baseball stadiums with 40K people there. We didn't have to wear masks everywhere. We didn't have to self isolate every winter due to Covid season. Most of us didn't work from home and went into office buildings with 100's of other people.

Who knows, if CV is here forever it could be true. Even with a vaccine it may be a world where we don't know who has been vaccinated, that not everyone will be able to get vaccinated or that the vaccine like FLU vaccines could be as low as 55% effective.

Are children going to grow up in a world that shuns human contact and physical and social closeness? Ya I know we will have a vaccine in 12-18 months and then the world will go back to normal like nothing happened. I hope so. I hope that in the future we can just be like normal again and not have to think if we are a Shaq away from every person we meet and if CV is on every door knob we touch.

It's going to happen. This is mild compared to what the future holds; when climate change, overpopulation, lack of resources and much much worse pandemics come (from living in close proximity). Unless we invest in healthcare technologies to make vaccines faster and put countermeasures into law; then we stand no chance.
 

This is 100% accurate. There are sheriff deputies in some of the Eastern counties where the numbers are low who aren't enforcing it, and are even going into small "non-essential" businesses that are opening against Pelosi's nephew's edicts and instead of shutting them down they're paying for their services.

Pelosi's nephew likes to think he's a king of his own "Nation State" but reality is going to hit him in the head soon. Even some of the Western states that he entered an agreement into to open are wanting to open before him, which will piss off those states when he'll tell them no.
 
Hard hitting news! How many people are jumping into lava?

Hook me up... I'll take a three day lava intravenous as a precauntionary
 
Hard hitting news! How many people are jumping into lava?


Please let Trump suggest ingesting lava just for the media meltdown.
 
Hard hitting news! How many people are jumping into lava?


Just waiting for Donald to mention lava and the accompanying media meltdown with people jumping into active volcanoes.
 
Any religious leader who lets their group congregate and especially without enforcing any social distancing, masks, gloves etc is only doing their people harm.


This is 100% accurate. There are sheriff deputies in some of the Eastern counties where the numbers are low who aren't enforcing it, and are even going into small "non-essential" businesses that are opening against Pelosi's nephew's edicts and instead of shutting them down they're paying for their services.

Pelosi's nephew likes to think he's a king of his own "Nation State" but reality is going to hit him in the head soon. Even some of the Western states that he entered an agreement into to open are wanting to open before him, which will piss off those states when he'll tell them no.

It'll be interesting to see when the spike happens.
 

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I never expected pubs to do the right thing anyway; only a blight on the nation.

People are still social distancing and using PPE. On their own. Without government laws forcing them to do that. Shocking for you, I know.

We'll see how right you are; when the figures come out in time. America's a big country so the rural areas likely have a delay before the spike hits.



Christian nutter bellend acts like a christian nutter bellend. News at 11.
 
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Just waiting for Donald to mention lava and the accompanying media meltdown with people jumping into active volcanoes.

"Me and my husand were watching Trump and he mentioned lava, so we thought it would be a great idea if we jumped into a volcano. He asked me for a hand so I pushed him in."

CNN

"Trump pushes man into Lava pit as wife watches on"
 
UK figure for today is 445 deaths in hospitals. That is a substantial improvement in mid-week figures.

UK started adding care home figures today to the general figures which makes the total toll around 750.

I do cynically wonder whether they chose to do that now as the rate is dropping to keep people cautious, knowing most will only read the top line figure
 
But if 15-20% had it, around 3-5% of the infected would be in serious condition and need ventilators. That would be around 50,000 to 80,000 in intensive care, which should overtax the hospitals. Yet some sources say the hospitals aren't overtaxed, some even say they're barely taxed.

3-5% would need ventilators if the virus was as deadly and dangerous as the initial reports said, and what this government strategy of quasi-lockdowns was based on. It's just not the case though, and I think we have learned that over the past month.

Now that we are seeing more and more antibody tests come out, it's striking how consistent they all are, which of course makes intuitive sense.
 
UK figure for today is 445 deaths in hospitals. That is a substantial improvement in mid-week figures.

UK started adding care home figures today to the general figures which makes the total toll around 750.

I do cynically wonder whether they chose to do that now as the rate is dropping to keep people cautious, knowing most will only read the top line figure

Probably because it is more accurate to include all coronavirus deaths in a coronavirus death tally.
 
Not good at all and this is only going to give people reason to blame Jews for this virus. The orthodox community has been a sore spot with this virus. Its the same thing in Israel where the hot spots were in the Orthodox communities and they were the most resistant to social distancing measures.

This is one of the problems with Twitter though. Anyone who is in NYC knows what is going on, but you get self-righteous gasbags from all over the country weighing in.

Either this lockdown is necessary or its not. The same people on twitter claiming it's a matter of life and death to stay home and not go outside are also applying the social justice stack on where this lockdown is enforced.
 
3-5% would need ventilators if the virus was as deadly and dangerous as the initial reports said, and what this government strategy of quasi-lockdowns was based on. It's just not the case though, and I think we have learned that over the past month.

Now that we are seeing more and more antibody tests come out, it's striking how consistent they all are, which of course makes intuitive sense.

Also keep in mind that a lot of doctors are now saying vents are actually killing people.

In NY if you hit a vent its basically a 80-90% chance of dying. The ventilator concern may have been totally misjudged and its possible it is doing more harm then good.
 

Gilead stock about to pump. Should of bought some a few days ago.

China did stop the trials though


But there story was they didn't have enough infected LOL. I guess they didn't want to cure black people and overrun their McDonalds.

Then we had the WHO leak that poo poo'd remdesivir


I think HCQ at early stages, and Remdesivir at later stages.

Now lets wait for the media to start painting this drug as a negative and unearthing stories of people overdosing and murdering their husbands to discredit it so we can keep the fear porn going.
 
Also keep in mind that a lot of doctors are now saying vents are actually killing people.

In NY if you hit a vent its basically a 80-90% chance of dying. The ventilator concern may have been totally misjudged and its possible it is doing more harm then good.

From what I've heard from some friends and acquaintances who work in hospitals it's more that by the time a patient is in a ventilator for this it's often too late.

They say in general ventilators are a last resort for pneumonia and other lung issues. People are already struggling to breathe on their own and even being given oxygen, much less intubated, can build dependency and make it less likely to be able to breather normally afterward. Hence they try not to do it unless they're pretty sure the patient is going to die without it and do it in hopes they're one of the minority who recover. So giving them some chance, vs likely no chance.

That's second hand info and I have no personal expertise here, but also no reason to doubt thee folk who work, or have worked, in ICUs.
 


This just made me think of a tangential issue that plagues us as humans.

Most of us care far more about being right than truth. If we collectively flipped that, can you imagine the world we'd live in?!?

Most are far more interested in validation of the ego - the comfort and security, no matter how artificial, that comes with the perception, even through self-deception, of being correct. The need to protect that sense of identity trumps any real hunger for truth for most all of the world.

Do you love truth?

Do you still love it when it unravels all the foundations upon which you have built your world and sense of self?

The answers to those questions are almost universally Yes and No, respectively.
 
UK figure for today is 445 deaths in hospitals. That is a substantial improvement in mid-week figures.

UK started adding care home figures today to the general figures which makes the total toll around 750.

I do cynically wonder whether they chose to do that now as the rate is dropping to keep people cautious, knowing most will only read the top line figure
I thought the same tbh. Good numbers though, we're heading in the right direction.
 
Can I ask a small favour to those dropping videos : can I have a TLDR summary of the video's content and provenance, maybe even your own thoughts on it?
 
Can I ask a small favour to those dropping videos : can I have a TLDR summary of the video's content and provenance, maybe even your own thoughts on it?

For my video.

Looks like we are seeing blood clotting in cases. Testing for blood clotting is difficult and can introduce other complications. So some doctors might just have to make a choice of to treat or not with blood thinners.

Just some more signs that this virus has a lot more tricks up its sleeve.
 
For my video.

Looks like we are seeing blood clotting in cases. Testing for blood clotting is difficult and can introduce other complications. So some doctors might just have to make a choice of to treat or not with blood thinners.

Just some more signs that this virus has a lot more tricks up its sleeve.

Likely related to the strokes they've seen in even young survivors as well since blood clots can spread to the brain. Hopefully this is a very rare effect of the virus as it's very scary if it becomes widespread.
 


Time stamped it, but interesting study being presented by Dr. Campell.

Genetics could play a roll and Viral load as well on how sick you get.

I always thought that how much virus you get depends on how bad the disease gets.
 


Time stamped it, but interesting study being presented by Dr. Campell.

Genetics could play a roll and Viral load as well on how sick you get.

I always thought that how much virus you get depends on how bad the disease gets.


Look at it this way...

assuming a doubling every day....if someone gets 10 viral particles, over 7 days:
10 -> 20 -> 40 -> 80 -> 160 -> 320 -> 640

Assuming someone gets 1 viral particle, over 7 days:
1 -> 2 -> 4 -> 8 -> 16 -> 32 -> 64, from here: -> 128 -> 256 -> 512 -> 1024

So, to match the viral count of someone that breaths in 10 viral particles, the 1 viral particle person requires 3-4 additional days to reach the same load.

During this time, the immune system is hard at work and provides a bit of time for it to play catch-up (if you will), but the difference in the amount of virus contracted on day 1 can significantly influence the course of the infection - I'd surmise that beyond genetics, this exposure also affects how bad the viral load gets, and by extension how bad the symptoms get.

Just speculation, and this is based on quadratic growth - exponential the differences start to become even more dramatic.
 


Time stamped it, but interesting study being presented by Dr. Campell.

Genetics could play a roll and Viral load as well on how sick you get.

I always thought that how much virus you get depends on how bad the disease gets.


Study in germany had the same Results. But still need to be reviewed.



Interesting Informations from the No.1 Virologist in germany:




Apparently the viral Load of Childrens is as high as the viral load of Adults.
 
I hope our future generations won't have to live in a post-CV world where there is never actually a normal. Can you imagine kids growing up only knowing things like social distancing and self isolation/quarantines. Being raised not to hug or shake people hands and always stay 2M away from them. Are we going to see a start divide where we will be like back in my day we went to baseball stadiums with 40K people there. We didn't have to wear masks everywhere. We didn't have to self isolate every winter due to Covid season. Most of us didn't work from home and went into office buildings with 100's of other people.

Who knows, if CV is here forever it could be true. Even with a vaccine it may be a world where we don't know who has been vaccinated, that not everyone will be able to get vaccinated or that the vaccine like FLU vaccines could be as low as 55% effective.

Are children going to grow up in a world that shuns human contact and physical and social closeness? Ya I know we will have a vaccine in 12-18 months and then the world will go back to normal like nothing happened. I hope so. I hope that in the future we can just be like normal again and not have to think if we are a Shaq away from every person we meet and if CV is on every door knob we touch.

Have some faith bud. What you're saying could manifest. But there is light out there that exists within our hearts that can't stop shining.

Just imagine one of these New Normal People, 16 years old, laying on their bed with headphones on, listening to Jimi Hendrix for the first time in their life.

The world cannot but go back to normal.
 
For all the talk about extended quarantines and stuff, I honestly don't think it will matter. In my area, people have begun going back outside again and just resuming normal life even though lockdowns have not been lifted. The weather is getting nicer and warmer. Grocery stores even have a lot more stuff in stock now, because people are less panicky. People in the summer won't be able to resist going outside and are just gonna say fuck it and start going out, and if enough people do it I'm just not sure what the local governments can do. Police can't arrest everyone.

Just hope it doesn't lead to more spikes.
 
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For all the talk about extended quarantines and stuff, I honestly don't think it will matter. In my area, people have begun going back outside again and just resuming normal life even though lockdowns have not been lifted. The weather is getting nicer and warmer. Grocery stores even have a lot more stuff in stock now, because people are less panicky. People in the summer won't be able to resist going outside and are just gonna say fuck it and start going out, and if enough people do it I'm just not sure what the local governments can do. Police can't arrest everyone.

Just hope it doesn't lead to more spikes.

Well it would kinda be deserved then in that case wouldn't it? Everyone wants to go outside; but its important to stick with it till its safe.
 
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