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Scotland's extended lockdown for another three weeks; we've stepped up to the plate and said we value lives more than we value profit.



What a clown.



I'm not sure advice from thick-as-pigshit laymen is better than qualified personnel.

Supposedly qualified personnel seem to come to all the wrong conclusions, and then later come to the opposite conclusion, and now who are we supposed to trust? Were they right the first time? Are they right now? Do we really know anything about Covid 19?
 

Djau

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Supposedly qualified personnel seem to come to all the wrong conclusions, and then later come to the opposite conclusion, and now who are we supposed to trust? Were they right the first time? Are they right now? Do we really know anything about Covid 19?

Takes time. We likely know some things and some we don't. Its an emerging complex virus; I think it will be a long time till we fully know everything about it and every potential interaction with medicine, illnesses, etc.
 
Takes time. We likely know some things and some we don't. Its an emerging complex virus; I think it will be a long time till we fully know everything about it and every potential interaction with medicine, illnesses, etc.

So in other words we don't know anything, but have been doing a bunch of stuff under the guise of "science." If we can flip flop on whether masks are good, whether it's spread by air or not, whether it can be spread by touching objects or not, we don't know anything.
 

Cato

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So in other words we don't know anything, but have been doing a bunch of stuff under the guise of "science." If we can flip flop on whether masks are good, whether it's spread by air or not, whether it can be spread by touching objects or not, we don't know anything.

Well we know something:

Virus is from a chineese lab. We know what the chineese thinks about brown and black people. Coincidence?
 

Longcat

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That pic from the Yahoo story is probably legit, and not from last year. Quite a few people with masks on. Easier to spot the masks in this pic, higher res.


Here's another pic from the same day, from a different angle and probably taken a bit later. Some of the same people are still there and the same bicycle is lying on the grass. And more people with masks.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXZ_FSnWoAATfiV?format=jpg&name=small

And apparently the pride flags are there all the time. More pics from another photographer.
https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/photos/christopher-street-pier?image=0
 
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JordanN

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So I looked up North Korea and like everyone, thought they were BS'ing about having no cases but there might actually be truth?

Historically, North Korea has restricted travel in the face of epidemics abroad, for instance during the 2014 Ebola epidemic.[5] Moreover, the country has had success in disease eradication in the past; it reportedly eliminated measles in 2018.[8][2] North Korea's government is highly totalitarian and maintains strict control over the country and its society, which experts anticipated could help in enforcing disease control measures such as social distancing.[2][9] North Korea also has many doctors, though they are less skilled and equipped than their Western counterparts, and a high level of public hygiene.[9]

Some South Korean sources state that the pandemic is steadily affecting the country. The virus is more likely to have come into North Korea from China, where the virus originated, than from South Korea. The Chinese-North Korean border restrictions are more relaxed than the heavily militarized border between North and South Korea. However, suspected COVID-19 cases in the two Chinese provinces (Liaoning and Jilin) bordering North Korea have been low.[2]

North Korea prevented the entry of SARS in 2003 and Ebola in 2014.[10]

Given the extremely closed off nature of the country, I guess it's not that hard to believe. But then again, they also do a lot of business with China, including a thriving black market.

Either they have no Covid cases, or they literally shoot anyone they know is positive.

Also, if they got infected, one has to wonder why their society hasn't collapsed? Outside of Pyongyang, it's nothing but dirt poor villages.
 
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That pic from the Yahoo story is probably legit, and not from last year. Quite a few people with masks on. Easier to spot the masks in this pic, higher res.


Here's another pic from the same day, from a different angle and probably taken a bit later. Some of the same people are still there and the same bicycle is lying on the grass. And more people with masks.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXZ_FSnWoAATfiV?format=jpg&name=small

And apparently the pride flags are there all the time. More pics from another photographer.
https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/photos/christopher-street-pier?image=0


Oh, yeah, they even got video footage:

 

Batiman

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That pic from the Yahoo story is probably legit, and not from last year. Quite a few people with masks on. Easier to spot the masks in this pic, higher res.


Here's another pic from the same day, from a different angle and probably taken a bit later. Some of the same people are still there and the same bicycle is lying on the grass. And more people with masks.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXZ_FSnWoAATfiV?format=jpg&name=small

And apparently the pride flags are there all the time. More pics from another photographer.
https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/photos/christopher-street-pier?image=0

I feel like you’re right but damn I feel like I’m playing where’s Waldo looking for masks in that pic. I only found one :(
 

Batiman

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Dr. Campbell going in on Vitamin D and Biological differences based on RACE. No one will talk about it because of all the baggage.

Non White/Chinese are more likely to suffer negative outcomes(death).


Can give me a quick summary on this? Interested but don’t have time for that whole video right now. I haven’t seen this brought up before.
 

cryptoadam

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North Korea has infections. They were wearing masks in the Kim videos.

As far as the park stuff i dont get the point? I thought enforcing social distancing was good and all these white people gonna get infected now anyways?

We had the white women who was thrown in jail and we had a black man shoot someone over a mask. Its not a race issue its a stupid issue.

And i take back calling it fake news if those are present day pictures.

This is just a further reflection of mixed messages and probably incompetence from New York. Seeding the virus across USA and Canada. Sending old people to infect nursing homes. Telling everyone its horrible while parading around in parks. Etc.....
 

cryptoadam

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Can give me a quick summary on this? Interested but don’t have time for that whole video right now. I haven’t seen this brought up before.

Short version is that non white and non chinese have a higher mortality rate. Like 2 to 4 times higher.

Campbell says evreyone will tall about socioeconomic resasons because they are to afraid to talk about biological reasons due to being called racist.

Talks about the recent study he talked about showing 10 times mortality to those with D deficiency. And his whole theory all along is vitamin d plays a role and people with darker skin have less vitamin d.
 
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Can give me a quick summary on this? Interested but don’t have time for that whole video right now. I haven’t seen this brought up before.

He's been talking about it for a long time, but basically, we're seeing clear results that people with darker skin have a higher rate of complications and death as a result of COVID-19. He points out that people with lighter skin absorb Vitamin D naturally via sunshine more efficiently than those with darker skin. He also points out that people with darker skin in the United States are typically more deficient in Vitamin D. He theorizes that Vitamin D deficiencies might directly lead to higher rate of complications/death when it comes to this disease (and other diseases), considering that sufficient Vitamin D levels are associated with increased autoimmunity. He's calling on the medical community to investigate this idea further and tell darker skinned people to up their Vitamin D levels as it could potentially be life saving (with no down sides).
 

Longcat

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I feel like you’re right but damn I feel like I’m playing where’s Waldo looking for masks in that pic. I only found one :(
Lol yeah. They are in the background. First I only saw the girl with the black top in the middle. Then I found some masks in the group to the left of her sitting near the wall. And the people walking on the right. You can right click the pic and go "view image" or whatever it's called in your browser of choice to zoom in more. I've found like 10 so far.
 
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Batiman

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Short version is that non white and non chinese have a higher mortality rate. Like 2 to 4 times higher.

Campbell says evreyone will tall about socioeconomic resasons because they are to afraid to talk about biological reasons due to being called racist.

Talks about the recent study he talked about showing 10 times mortality to those with D deficiency. And his whole theory all along is vitamin d plays a role and people with darker skin have less vitamin d.
He's been talking about it for a long time, but basically, we're seeing clear results that people with darker skin have a higher rate of complications and death as a result of COVID-19. He points out that people with lighter skin absorb Vitamin D naturally via sunshine more efficiently than those with darker skin. He also points out that people with darker skin in the United States are typically more deficient in Vitamin D. He theorizes that Vitamin D deficiencies might directly lead to higher rate of complications/death when it comes to this disease (and other diseases), considering that sufficient Vitamin D levels are associated with increased autoimmunity. He's calling on the medical community to investigate this idea further and tell darker skinned people to up their Vitamin D levels as it could potentially be life saving (with no down sides).
Thx. I do understand why it’s a complicated subject to bring up, but it should be brought up regardless. People will obviously be offended in today’s world but smarter people could listen and use this advice. Anything helps. I’ve been upping my healthy eating lately. Just gotta add more D in my life.
 

All Hail C-Webb

Hailing from the Chill-Web
Not sure I understand why the flu season would affect the virus being deadlier in Africa?

I thought the predictions were it wasn't seasonal. The whole summer time will reduce the spread, heat will reduce the spread etc... was debunked ?

I don't think it's been debunked. Im sure that many of the decisions being made are based on the belief that the virus will spread less in Summer.
What I wonder is if it's not better for some states to get a higher number of people with antibodies before flu season.
If you have areas with almost no immunity and the virus picks up when the temperatures drop, those areas will probably need to lock down again.

That pic from the Yahoo story is probably legit, and not from last year. Quite a few people with masks on. Easier to spot the masks in this pic, higher res.


Here's another pic from the same day, from a different angle and probably taken a bit later. Some of the same people are still there and the same bicycle is lying on the grass. And more people with masks.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXZ_FSnWoAATfiV?format=jpg&name=small

And apparently the pride flags are there all the time. More pics from another photographer.
https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/photos/christopher-street-pier?image=0


Bringing the receipts.
That's what we get for taking the word of random Twitter posters.

Based on the way the US has decided to tackle (or not tackle) the problem, I don't have much of a problem with people laying out at a beach or park. I would hope that most are wearing masks to and from, but messaging has been so awful that it really can't be expected at this point.
At this rate, we're probably at 100k dead by Memorial Day.
 
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Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Oh shit some good news. This is from my irl best friend.


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sneas78

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Wtf is this bull shit?!!
This is where they want to take this ?


“WHAT THE FUTURE SHOULD BRING
Reframing how we think about and pay for "national security"
As we rethink the meaning of national security, the US must change the way it manages its resources and money. Already Covid-19 has killed 20 times more Americans than the 9/11 hijackers. The pandemic is the greatest threat to our collective security since World War II.

But our national security apparatus is ill-equipped to respond effectively. The Trump administration is asking for a defense budget of around $750 billion, $150 billion more than annual defense budgets under President Barack Obama, yet in 2020 the government sought only $6.5 billion to fund the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Our priorities need serious rebalancing.
Investigating how the government responded
There is a pressing need for a bipartisan Coronavirus Commission, modeled on the 9/11 Commission, which not only examined the attacks and their aftermath but also made solid recommendations, such as the creation of the National Counterterrorism Center, which has helped deter future 9/11s.
New futures of work
In the AC-era, we will likely see huge increases in distance working and distance services, such as telemedicine, in nearly every field, from basic health care to psychiatry.
The death of the office
Quite rapidly, the pandemic has forced us to conduct a giant experiment about how the office can play a far less significant role in our lives. Jes Staley, the CEO of Barclays, which has about 70,000 employees around the world now working from home, told reporters recently, "The notion of putting 7,000 people in the building may be a thing of the past."

The Trump administration may turn a health crisis into a housing crisis
The commercial real estate sector will likely suffer badly as companies look to save money on leases and office workers reject long commutes.
Many of those who work outside of the service sector can work from anywhere. This in turn will also affect real estate -- particularly in densely packed cities like New York. It's hard to imagine that there will be a great demand in the AC-era for the chance to live in crowded apartment buildings with cramped elevators.
Paid family leave as a right and Medicare for those who want to opt into it
Ideally, the crisis will improve basic labor and health rights and deepen formal protections for lower-wage workers, who are essential to the service economy, agriculture, and home health care and have become the "essential" frontline forces in the battle against the pandemic.
A better Internet
For all the suffering, stress and dislocation created for society by the coronavirus, our ability to manage it without the Internet is almost unimaginable.

The AC-era, then, will highlight, with even greater clarity, our fundamental dependence -- in nearly every facet of life -- on an effective and highly functional Internet. So, the pandemic will ideally yield affordable broadband for all and will be based on cloud-based platforms that are connected to 5G networks.
Redefinition of higher education
Before the pandemic, the US faced key structural problems regarding higher education, such as ballooning student debt and inequality.
Add to these, now, one of the most striking, rapid changes brought on by the pandemic: the shift from in-person higher education to online courses. In the AC-era, it is likely, if not inevitable, that a significant amount of college instruction will move to permanent online or semi-online offerings.
This has many advantages -- allowing students to pursue degrees while working full or part time and raising families, for example. Yet, American institutions of higher learning face a profound challenge: how to massively increase online education while maintaining a commitment to high-quality teaching, student mentorship and academic integrity -- all while providing some semblance of a traditional college experience.
Addressing climate change
The coronavirus has demonstrated that profound risks to our safety and well-being are often fundamentally global. Ideally, the AC-era will reframe the debate about climate change and inspire states around the world to clarify global commitments to reduce human-produced global warming through agreements and mechanisms that have clear, enforceable provisions. And ideally this effort would be led by the US, China and other powerful nations.
The process will surely be tentative and imperfect, but the scope of the climate crisis will become even more apparent and in need of a serious response in the wake of the coronavirus.

What does air pollution have to do with Covid-19?
Interestingly, the pandemic has also revealed the immediate benefits of reducing carbon emissions. Think of New Delhi, the most polluted capital city in the world, a city so dangerous that children were literally choking on the air there. As a result of the virus, Indian Prime Minister Modi ordered a weekslong lockdown across the country. For the first time in decades, the 19 million inhabitants of Delhi can now see blue skies on a routine basis.
Indians and others around the world -- including people in Los Angeles who have watched the smog suddenly lift from their city during lockdown -- can see for themselves some of the immediate value of reducing pollution and may thereby imagine the far more profound benefits of seriously addressing climate change.
Conjuring the political will to reshape the climate change debate could happen not only in India, but also in many other countries, including the United States.
New infrastructure.
Not since the Eisenhower-era of highway building has there been such an opportunity and urgency to expand and repair US infrastructure, an area of common agreement between Republicans and Democrats. Infrastructure initiatives could get many Americans back to work and stimulate the economy in a manner that would support long-term productivity.
Infrastructure means the digital as well as the physical kinds -- such as bridges, roads, waste treatment, energy production, schools -- many of them necessary to efforts to insulate Americans from the next predictable big crisis, such as the effects of climate change in places like Lower Manhattan, Norfolk, Virginia and southern Florida.
WHAT THE FUTURE WILL LIKELY BRING
Having considered all the changes that should happen in the After Coronavirus era, we now turn our attention to the likely effects and challenges of this new period -- changes that are more dystopian, and some already underway -- whether we like them or not.
Surveillance technologies will become ever more embedded in societies
The coronavirus has demonstrated many of the benefits of mass tracking and remote data collection and analysis, as health officials have tried to contain the disease's spread. Yet, it is already evident that these same technologies can be used in ways that are dangerous for civil liberties.
While China has been able to require citizens to use digital bar codes on mobile apps that gauge their contagion risk during the pandemic, its related efforts in recent years to create "social credit" scores for all its citizens -- potentially to track and steer behavior -- and to monitor minority groups, such as the Uighurs, are dangerous precedents.
Google and Apple are working together on a smartphone app that would use Bluetooth technology to "sense" nearby smartphones and alert users if they have had a brush with someone with the coronavirus. Such an app could be very useful in enabling a return to a more normal life, but it also raises significant privacy concerns, and when polled a majority of Americans say they wouldn't use it -- because of those concerns or because they don't have a smartphone.
As it navigates a new coronavirus reality, the United States will need to clarify how to manage and regulate the power and scope of mass data collection and analysis -- by both state and private entities --to create enforceable protections against the lure of surveillance rule.
The US relationship with China will worsen
The pandemic has demonstrated the vulnerability of global supply chains and may achieve what President Donald Trump could not do, which is to pull significant elements of American manufacturing from China and elsewhere back to the states, especially in industries such as pharmaceuticals.

Across the world, dictatorial regimes use Covid-19 to quash press freedom
Trade conflicts and business competition are manageable. What's more dangerous is the likelihood of ever-more aggressive political posturing between China and the United States, both of which have blamed the other for the spread of the virus.
Last Sunday, on ABC's "This Week," for instance, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said there was "enormous evidence" that the virus emerged in a Chinese lab. The Global Times, a state-owned Chinese newspaper, said Pompeo had "stunned the world with groundless accusations."
These tensions could not come at a worse moment, when managing the consequences of the coming global recession requires coordination between the world's two largest economies.
Populism, nationalism and authoritarianism will grow
Authoritarian leaders are using the pandemic to grab more power. In Hungary, once viewed as among the most successful post-authoritarian democracies, compliant lawmakers gave Viktor Orban, the elected prime minister, the authority to rule by decree indefinitely.
More than 80 countries have declared states of emergency, and authoritarian states like China have used the cover of the crisis to arrest leaders of the pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong.
Meanwhile, the democratically elected Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro earlier this month came out in public at a protest supporting the military dictators who ruled Brazil from 1964-1985. "I am here because I believe in you. You are here because you believe in Brazil," Bolsonaro, a former army captain told the protesters.
Truth faces new challenges
The pandemic has produced a deluge of disinformation and misinformation, ranging from conspiracy theories, propagated by the Iranian and Chinese government, that the US government manufactured the virus, to multiple internet scams for coronavirus cures.
The risk here does not lie only in the presentation of false tales, but the broader impact of eroding trust in experts and science.
There is also a paradox: Even as the pandemic reveals the benefits that decades of research and public health expertise have brought to tackling diseases like this, the rampant false claims that undermine support for scientific consensus make it difficult to ensure that the public, in the US and elsewhere, has a clear, informed understanding of actual risks and productive policy responses.
The only way to improve this situation is to create and nurture trusted sources of information whose legitimacy and commitment to objective and non-politicized information is repeatedly and publicly presented as widely respected. Not an easy goal at a time of great social and political division.
The era of small government is over
Former President Bill Clinton famously said, "The era of big government is over." We can now reverse that and say, "The era of small government is over." Americans whose jobs and businesses have disappeared because of the pandemic will be looking for much more from their government going forward.

Covid-19's threat to European unity
The initial $2 trillion-stimulus package passed by Congress in March was just the first step. The US Federal Reserve is now supporting businesses and states in unprecedented ways. According to the Wall Street Journal's calculations, the Fed's portfolio is expected to grow from $4 trillion last year to between $8 to $11 trillion dollars, which means that it is taking a larger role in the economy than was the case during the Great Depression or World War II.
Hinging into the future
The speed and scope of the transformations we are living through are proof of both our vulnerability and our capacity to respond to serious challenges. To the degree the pandemic is a hinge event, it will likely inspire both the best and worst impulses of leaders, states and peoples.
What is needed now, more than ever, is vision, resilience and a willingness to learn the core lesson of this disease: we are all deeply connected at a time of great danger.”
 

nbcjr

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ManaByte with the follow-through, after also calling out that conspiracy theory nut job video. Didn't see that coming, but happy to be wrong. Shows you at least think for yourself even though I still disagree with most of your thoughts. :)

That's a picture from last year during Pride. Somebody else posted the uncropped image. That's quite the fuck-up from Yahoo.

It is fake news that it is fake news. The image is true., pride flags are always up. I don't know why the deniers are full force over that tweet.

 

Joe T.

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This is going to turn me into Brill from Enemy of the State:

“No Return to Business as Usual”: Mayors Pledge on COVID-19 Economic Recovery -C40

London, 07 May - Mayors from many of the world’s most powerful cities have warned that the recovery from COVID-19 “should not be a return to ‘business as usual’ - because that is a world on track for 3°C or more of over-heating.”

The C40 group of cities released a statement of principles to shape the recovery from the COVID-19 crisis. Mayors, representing millions of people worldwide, pledge “to build a better, more sustainable and fairer society out of the recovery from the COVID-19 crisis.”

The principles were adopted in the first meeting of C40’s Global Mayors COVID-19 Recovery Task Force, supported by C40 Chair, Mayor of Los Angeles, Eric Garcetti, and have been endorsed by scores of city leaders from around the world

The Global Mayors COVID-19 Recovery Task Force
The Task Force will establish a common framework that all of C40’s global membership can use to create a "new normal" for city economies; agree upon concrete measures they can put in place for recovery; how to communicate about the climate crisis in a post-COVID-19 world; and how can they influence stimulus packages and interventions to support the necessary transition to a more sustainable, low-carbon, inclusive and healthier economy for people and the planet.

“COVID-19 has laid bare the systemic inequities too often found at the heart of our communities -- and as we start to emerge from this crisis, we must rebuild an economy that truly works for everyone,” said C40 Chair and Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti. “Our C40 statement of principles will provide a framework for a fair recovery -- a sustainable and equitable vision that lifts up our most vulnerable residents and advances the work of our Global Green New Deal.”

We, as leaders of major cities across the globe, are clear that our ambition should not be a return to ‘normal’ – our goal is to build a better, more sustainable, more resilient and fairer society out of the recovery from the COVID-19 crisis. Therefore, our joint strategy to support the recovery of our cities and their residents from COVID-19 will be governed by these principles:
  • The recovery should not be a return to ‘business as usual’ - because that is a world on track for 3°C or more of over-heating;
  • The recovery, above all, must be guided by an adherence to public health and scientific expertise, in order to assure the safety of those who live in our cities;
  • Excellent public services, public investment and increased community resilience will form the most effective basis for the recovery;
  • The recovery must address issues of equity that have been laid bare by the impact of the crisis – for example, workers who are now recognised as essential should be celebrated and compensated accordingly and policies must support people living in informal settlements;
  • The recovery must improve the resilience of our cities and communities. Therefore, investments should be made to protect against future threats – including the climate crisis – and to support those people impacted by climate and health risks;
  • Climate action can help accelerate economic recovery and enhance social equity, through the use of new technologies and the creation of new industries and new jobs. These will drive wider benefits for our residents, workers, students, businesses and visitors;
  • We commit to doing everything in our power and the power of our city governments to ensure that the recovery from COVID-19 is healthy, equitable and sustainable;
  • We commit to using our collective voices and individual actions to ensure that national governments support both cities and the investments needed in cities, to deliver an economic recovery that is healthy, equitable and sustainable;
  • We commit to using our collective voices and individual actions to ensure that international and regional institutions invest directly in cities to support a healthy, equitable and sustainable recovery.

Ok, so, uh... yeah... there are questions I want to ask and I don't think I can without sounding crazy, but I can't be the only one that's thinking about them after that.
 

Cato

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I don't think it's been debunked. Im sure that many of the decisions being made are based on the belief that the virus will spread less in Summer.
What I wonder is if it's not better for some states to get a higher number of people with antibodies before flu season.
If you have areas with almost no immunity and the virus picks up when the temperatures drop, those areas will probably need to lock down again.

Wu-flu is a flu and is a respiratory illness.
They always back off when warm season hits and the warmth suppresses the illness, then they come back once the colder weather comes in fall.
Look forward to full lockdown in all cities and no "friend and family dinner" for thanksgiving or christmas.

People not being able to walk in the park makes them unruly? Just wait until they will have to sit alone in their apartments not celebrating christmas. hahaha
 
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autoduelist

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On giving up liberty. He goes over quite a few things, including some new recommendations for schools which are positively Orwellian / Brave New World. Also, psychological impact on children of not being allowed to play freely, cooped up, etc.
 
I just had a thought. Yeah, I know, right? About the planned enforced global vaccine. Please tell me where the logic fails here...

So, what's the problem with choosing not to have the vaccine? If you do have the vaccine, you will be safe from those who don't have the vaccine. Win win?

I don't want the vaccine, I'll take my chances on this planet with God. I'll take the risk at living. For those that have the vaccine, they don't have to worry about me, and those who feel like me, also don't have to worry.

Logical, illogical? What am I missing? I'm only trying to mentally get through this like the rest of you.

I say this because here in Slovakia the world's MSM are praising our success (25 deaths - central Europe). The three main reasons they say is because of Slovaks trust in our government, ourselves, and our media. We conformed, we didn't question, and we are being praised by Western media. Good good you say, I guess I agree, great! But now the country is mostly divided on the vaccine, with 60% saying they won't take it. The MSM are blaming conspiracy theorists for this problem. I'm an expat Brit, so I stick out like a sore thumb sharing alternative news and finding the conformity odd. But as I've said also in this thread, I feel this country will enforce shit by police force like they've done already, including vaccination.

Thoughts GAF, on this lovely sunny day?
 
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longdi

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If wuflu can be vaccinated, we should be able to do the same to hiv.
Since this corona is a mutated hiv+sars virus
 

Malakhov

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a bunch of perverts in labcoats got together with politicians and said whatever would make them the most money. Or worse, maybe we overreacted because we didn't know what was going on, and now we are doing a series of increasingly dumb things to pretend like the initial over-reaction was justified
Oh shit am I in a global warming thread?
 

Malakhov

Banned
Welcome to lockdown Britain



Don’t go to the garage for a bag of monster munch people, stay home!

Context missing. Man is holding his son almost as a shield in the first seconds. Then he proceeds to try to chest bump into a cop and starts to get pretty confrontational. Id like the whole event.
 
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JORMBO

Darkness no more
PA stay at home extended until June 4th. My county has over 500k people. We have 150 deaths. 70% of those were in nursing homes and most of those people had more then one other condition. This is getting crazy.
 
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lock2k

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I'm really pissed off.

My city was supposed to be relaxing the restrictions by May 11th but the fucking morons can't stop going out and the isolation index, which should have been 70% at least is lower than 47% so they are going to have even higher restrictions put in place. I'm really, really mad at this because I've been quarantining since the begging without complaining and only getting out in case of really needing stuff but whenever I look at my apartment window I see morons jogging all the time (I never saw that many people jogging) and also riding bikes. And don't even tell me about the moron parents that are taking their children to the streets with masks so they can ride bikes and play outside.

My daughter hasn't left our house in more than a month.

People sucks. Fuck people. End rant.
 

Alebrije

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I think even if you look at South America its death per million is also pretty low. Even Brazil which has a lot of infections, its behind the Italy, Sweden, US, UK, Spain, even Canada.

Maybe sunlight, humid+hot temperatures, more people outside, and ventelation/circulation of air when indoors especially in large apartment buildings.

but I wouldn't discount anti malerial or maybe other drugs, I remember people looking into TB vaccines and them working against the CV. So it could be other drugs/vaccines they are taking that is improving the chances of positive outcomes.

South america its just begining specially Brasil. We need to see the numbers of next weeks and June.
 
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