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[Hobbygaming]

You really believe MS is going to allow Sony to show them up on 1st party visuals with their games even though the Series X is clearly a more powerful machine - even if their games are cross gen? If you do, I got a bridge to sell you. You guys know better than this. .

It ultimately comes down to the studios, the hardware and the software stack, and I believe PS5 will have the better API and tools that will allow them to better leverage the power of the PS5 along with having the most talented 1st party

PS5 will have the best looking 1st party exclusives

With Xbox games can't be truly designed to take full advantage of the Xbox Series X because they have to run on Windows

 

[geordiemp]

you are latching onto one part of the hardware without clearly understanding how they are utilizing it.

Im not talking about destiny. For all we know they made engine choices that prevented them from having more enemies.

I can tell you that halo 5 had more enemies on screen and not only scaled the ai updates based on distance from the player, but scaled animation interpolation, lod, texture, lighting, etc... based on distance from the player all to maintain 60fps on xbone.

With faster hardware they wouldn't have do use those same optimizations. Not only that you could have more enemies ( if you wanted) higher res geometry, more animations, etc. Thats the point im making. Its scalable.

Thats an old Halo Vid enemies 30 FPS, its still same enemies, same animations, same Jaguar.

You dont think its limiting, I disagree. Jaguar needs to die.

 

[Tulipanzo]

Anyone got a link to this quote?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/games/30004730/xbox-one-dodging-game-drought
This whole article aged like fine milk

 

[Gavon West]

It ultimately comes down to the studios, the hardware and the software stack, and I believe PS5 will have the better API and tools that will allow them to better leverage the power of the PS5 along with having the most talented 1st party

PS5 will have the best looking 1st party exclusives

I can't call who has the better tools and software - although I would say tools and software are right in MSs bag.

I'll put a wager on both systems will have banger 1st party games. Sony wont be the only one. I can guarantee it.

 

[Panajev2001a]

You keep taking my posts out of context and it isnt meant that way.

"That was completely taken out of context"

They have horse power to make good looking games and spend more money by making it cross generation, but as a consumer looking at a next generation console what I want is at least a good portion of their first party teams giving me new games for the new console that do not waste time and or resources to make the game run on the old HDD + Jaguar cores setup and dare to see what 1440p plus the XVA backed SSD can lead them at 30 FPS too.

 

[Psykodad]

So it wasn't due to actual exclusive games that people played on their PS4, but their brand recognition. I guess being $100 cheaper played no role this generation nor did being $100 more expensive play a role last generation. It is just such a silly and disingenous narrative that doesn't what so ever. Games come in 3rd after price in 1st and power in 2nd.

Playstation 4 expanded the exclusive list, something which a lot of buyers expected when buying a PS4.
Really not sure where you're trying to go with this.

Out of the entirety of M$ library, picking MSFS as somehow being a non important IP, a game that has nearly 40 year history, is not the one to do it with.

Out of the entirety of "M$" library, it's also the only game that has never been used as a title to counter MS competitions library.

It's only being used now because it looks good and is their only 1st party exclusive that isn't CGI.
You can barely even consider it a game.

 

[Hobbygaming]

So it wasn't due to actual exclusive games that people played on their PS4, but their brand recognition. I guess being $100 cheaper played no role this generation nor did being $100 more expensive play a role last generation. It is just such a silly and disingenous narrative that doesn't what so ever. Games come in 3rd after price in 1st and power in 2nd.

Games are the most important factor when it comes to a game's console

 

[Tulipanzo]

It ultimately comes down to the studios, the hardware and the software stack, and I believe PS5 will have the better API and tools that will allow them to better leverage the power of the PS5 along with having the most talented 1st party

PS5 will have the best looking 1st party exclusives

With Xbox games can't be truly designed to take full advantage of the Xbox Series X because they have to run on Windows

Running on X1 is actually worse, because you literally can't buy a CPU that bad for gaming. On PC you're also afforded changing minimum requirements and more granularity in settings than on a console.

This approach is very obviously constrictive, and make Booty's comments sound a lot more ominous. Some MS games may still be forced to run on X1 even after the "two years" he mentioned.

 

[Nikana]

Playstation 4 expanded the exclusive list, something which a lot of buyers expected when buying a PS4.
Really not sure where you're trying to go with this.


Out of the entirety of "M$" library, it's also the only game that has never been used as a title to counter MS competitions library.

It's only being used now because it looks good and is their only 1st party exclusive that isn't CGI.
You can barely even consider it a game.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Still cannot get enough of a chuckle people are agreeing with Spencer disagreeing with Spencer himself ...

[...] but a game like Halo 4 seems like it could have life on the Xbox One. Spencer said that doing a port wasn't something he wanted for launch.
"I want launch to be about new things that are taking full advantage of the hardware, especially as a first party

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

I mean honestly, I kind of have to agree. Gaming is moving away from just having sold the most boxes and is now becoming more about accessibility. The Xbox is moving towards an eco-system because that's the future of gaming. Why should you have to purchase a $500 box in order to play a small handful of games? Is a large handful of overly cinematic exclusive games going to be enough to convince me to buy a new system? In the midst of a pandemic and economic downturn no less? I honestly appreciate that for the next 10 months or so I will be able to play most if not all of the Xbox exclusives that come out, even if it won't be the best version of those games.

And I mean honestly, is there any reason why Sony is locking those PS5 games to only be on PS5? Are you seriously going to tell me that Demon's Souls, Spider-Man Miles Morales (a literal stand alone expansion), and whatever other launch window titles they have cannot be done on PS4?


Also, is there even a reason to own a PS4 over an Xbox outside of the exclusives? Xbox One X is more powerful so multiplatform games run better. Xbox has the better services (Game Pass vs PSNow, Xbox Live Gold compared to PS+), Xbox has quiet hardware (never once heard the fan on any of my Xbox systems, PS4 and Pro both turned into jet engines after just a few months and are louder than my TVs) and Xbox has the better support for legacy titles (I know all my Xbox games will work at Series X launch, don't know that about my PS4 games on PS5 launch).

This post is depressing...

First of all your premise is that people should not have to upgrade hardware in order to enjoy the best games... but that is a completely fallacious and cinic premise... as for everything in this world and specially tech/gaming in order to get things forward companies need to invest in better hardware in order to keep offering new advancements and ways of play.. (watch VR) so that keep people interested.. is only normal that old tech cant be able to keep up and so if you want to experience those new games you need to invest your money in new hardware... this is not rocket science you have to do this in every dimensions of you life... new cars, new houses, new clothes, new TVs, new phones, etc... this is how world moves and business succeed...

Actually in a normal world people "like" this because they usually work hard to earn money in order to have a life and be able to buy the things they like.. if they can't at the moment they save money, they work a bit more and usually they make it later... first you earn it than you have it...

This mindset of all games for every gamer as if all people are entitled to them is mind blowing and outrageous... so now people who originally bought first Xbox should also be able to play next gen games? I must talk to apple because my iphone 4 is unable to run new versions of apps for a long time now and because I bought my iPhone in 2009 I should be able to run all modern apps... it only makes sense no?

Don't get me wrong maybe in the future there will be a way to do this... its called streaming and for sure it will flat the market, but at the moment the tech is not there yet.. and even then there will always people that would not afford or won't have that service available to them..

MS is not being pro consumer they just have a business strategy that they think suits their goals...

Right now as things goes people are very happy to spend money in new consoles with more power and new features (as they always did)... the thirst and anticipation for a new toy that is supposed to bring new exciting games is real.. and for sure people will vote with their wallets about what strategy they support by the end of the year..

I for sure know were my money goes...

 

[tryDEATH]

Playstation 4 expanded the exclusive list, something which a lot of buyers expected when buying a PS4.
Really not sure where you're trying to go with this.

But there was nothing amazing to play for the first 3 or 4 years, are your really trying to say people were buying a game system 3 to 4 years into advance? If you believe that your just being ignorant for the sake of it when in fact that price was the biggest factor in the incredible numbers and nothing to do with games.

 

[iHaunter]

I better say nothing, before i am attacked by shill force one.

I'm not allowed to comment on XSX anymore. Reality is, they have few desired console exclusives.

 

[Panajev2001a]

But there was nothing amazing to play for the first 3 or 4 years,

For the first 4 years? Oh come on .

 

[tryDEATH]

Games are the most important factor when it comes to a game's console

Show me proof, PS4 didn't have jack at the start of the generation yet was easily out selling Xbox 2 to 1. You could argue Xbox actually had a much better launch line up and start to the generation and it didn't have an impact on units moved.

 

[Gavon West]

"That was completely taken out of context"

They have horse power to make good looking games and spend more money by making it cross generation, but as a consumer looking at a next generation console what I want is at least a good portion of their first party teams giving me new games for the new console that do not waste time and or resources to make the game run on the old HDD + Jaguar cores setup and dare to see what 1440p plus the XVA backed SSD can lead them at 30 FPS too.

Again, this makes no sense. Why do you care where they allocate their resources so long as next gen games are just that? Theres a reason why they have the "optimized for Series X" badge. Theres a reason why they have Smart Delivery and machine learning. Doesnt matter if One X owners get a lower performing version of a game so long as Series X games play, look and feel like next gen - which they will. Thats the whole point. Ill be getting the Series X day one. I dont care if One X owners get to play the same game as i do.

 

[Hobbygaming]

I can't call who has the better tools and software - although I would say tools and software are right in MSs bag.

I'll put a wager on both systems will have banger 1st party games. Sony wont be the only one. I can guarantee it.

Both will have great looking games for sure but Sony having the better studios will give them the advantage

On top of being able to optimize for just the PS5

 

[Nikana]

Again, this makes no sense. Why do you care where they allocate their resources so long as next gen games are just that? Theres a reason why they have the "optimized for Series X" badge. Theres a reason why they have Smart Delivery and machine learning. Doesnt matter if One X owners get a lower performing version of a game so long as Series X games play, look and feel like next gen - which they will. Thats the whole point. Ill be getting the Series X day one. I dont care if One X owners get to play the same game as i do.

This is a fact that some people just cant grasp. Like I play games not consoles. Thats why I will have all the platforms. Most people do not give a shit what they need to play a game, they just want to play it. Only the hardest of the hardcore care that every MB of RAM is being used.

Its a valid argument that you want your console to be utilized to its fullest, but what is determined to be fullest is subjective.

 

[Hobbygaming]

Show me proof, PS4 didn't have jack at the start of the generation yet was easily out selling Xbox 2 to 1. You could argue Xbox actually had a much better launch line up and start to the generation and it didn't have an impact on units moved.

I already explained why. PS1 + PS2 + PS3

Gamers knew the great games were coming

 

[oldergamer]

It does highlight how "you poor people get a second job and stop meaning" was neither the intention of what Kutaragi's said nor anything more that a popular way to mock the high price of PS3. Once you take away the replaceable bigger HDD, you factored in HDMI by default, and built in WiFi (and take that $65-70 or whatever it was for the Xbox 360 WiFi adapter)... the real price of the 20/60 GB PS3's was a lot less outrageous and the BC support at launch of PS1 and PS2 titles was leagues leagues beyond what the competition offered for their previous generation.

His quote was ready a "we made a premium product full of value, you will want to get it and do what it takes to do so" and considering how much they were losing even at $599 I am not sure how customers were the ones getting screwed...

Wait a minute. Are you trying to justify the high price of the launch ps3??? For real? The parts you mention arent really where the went wrong. Sure the hd was a built in cost that never got smaller. One was licensing a gpu from Nvidia was costly. Two, manufacturing that huge CELL cpu was also costly. Sure a built in ps2 was also costly but no matter how you look at it, the price was not consumer friendly.

Lol at your translation of his quote. Thats some serious spin. I gotta admit you have a warped sense of whats good for the consumer if you are think it was a "deal" at 599

 

[quickwhips]

Both will have great looking games for sure but Sony having the better studios will give them the advantage

On top of being able to optimize for just the PS5

That is like your opinion.

 

[Aguero9320]

Still cannot get enough of a chuckle people are agreeing with Spencer disagreeing with Spencer himself ...

Thread is full of nonsense in general, but it is worth pointing out that smart people change their positions all the time, particularly in the tech world to keep up with advances. Look at Apple starting to build a gate into their walled garden. Microsoft are looking to tear down the walls completely, clearly.

The position of 'it's about software and services' not the platform is being adopted by everyone. Sony is just a little behind the times, but they'll have to catch up as the market demands it, or... Good to see them starting to experiment with PC.

Would love to see Sony exclusives on PC, Switch, Xbox - everywhere - and everyone else should want that too.

 

[tryDEATH]

I already explained why. PS1 + PS2 + PS3

Gamers knew the great games were coming

Come on you know you don't believe that yourself, everyone knows it was the price stop trying to fight. No one is buying a console 3 to 4 years in advance, its illogical.

 

[Gavon West]

Both will have great looking games for sure but Sony having the better studios will give them the advantage

On top of being able to optimize for just the PS5

Having the better studios is subjective AF. NT, PGG, Obsidian, Turn 10, 343i, TC etc are world class devs with a more powerful console to work with to boot. I agree with Sony having bangers. Im sure of that. And Im certain they won't be the only ones. MS has an arsenal of great devs with more on the way. They also have the most powerful console of the two and a super fast SSD. Legit, its a good time to be a gamer, all in all...

 

[gimic26]

Thats why they have the tools in place to deal with the situation. All this concern about next gen games being held back is just odd. If there were to be no differences between Series X and One X, why would they waste billions in developing it in the first place?

Doesnt matter though, tbh. In a couple of weeks, we'll see just how " held back" Series X games are. If the games shown dont look any better than this gen, Ill habe no problem admitting i was wrong. I certainly dont think that will be the case though.

I'm not doubting that these first wave of games will look better on next gen systems. But better looks/graphics are only a part of what these new consoles are capable of. Designing your game around complex AI and physics algorithms that run on multiple threads of a Zen CPU is not going to be easily made to run on an older Jaguar CPU. We'll see what they've come up with in a couple of weeks.

 

[teezzy]

Again, this makes no sense. Why do you care where they allocate their resources so long as next gen games are just that? Theres a reason why they have the "optimized for Series X" badge. Theres a reason why they have Smart Delivery and machine learning. Doesnt matter if One X owners get a lower performing version of a game so long as Series X games play, look and feel like next gen - which they will. Thats the whole point. Ill be getting the Series X day one. I dont care if One X owners get to play the same game as i do.

Don't you get it, Gavon?

Allowing current Xbox owners to get more life out of their hardware until they're ready to upgrade is bad.
Having all those games they bought on XB1 prior to upgrade perform on Series X with improved specs and performance is bad.
Giving gamers the options to build their own hardware entirely and access Xbox titles through GamePass is bad.
Ensuring that all the old controllers work on the new console so consumers don't have to double dip just to have their buddy over for a quick round of Killer Instinct is bad.
Pumping their console budget into industry horsepower staples like CPU/GPU as opposed to a faster SSD is bad.
Phil is bad.
Xbox is bad.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Wait a minute. Are you trying to justify the high price of the launch ps3??? For real? The parts you mention arent really where the went wrong. Sure the hd was a built in cost that never got smaller. One was licensing a gpu from Nvidia was costly. Two, manufacturing that huge CELL cpu was also costly. Sure a built in ps2 was also costly but no matter how you look at it, the price was not consumer friendly.

Lol at your translation of his quote. Thats some serious spin. I gotta admit you have a warped sense of whats good for the consumer if you are think it was a "deal" at 599

Let me see... as a consumer putting that console next to my Xbox 360 both gotten at launch: WiFi built in (add $60-70 to Xbox 360's price), SDCard and CF support and four USB ports (nothing but proprietary expansion cards at launch), BC with thousands of PS1 and PS2 titles, user replaceable open 60 GB HDD vs 20 GB proprietary MS expansion, SACD support, full featured Blu-Ray playback vs DVD only, HDMI vs Component/VGA, etc... yeah what a ripoff...

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

every three days, a new phil spencer interview appear

A new interview and a new Phil... what Phil will we have next? The sensitive Phil? The Santa Claus Phil? Or the power maters Phil?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Don't you get it, Gavon?

Allowing current Xbox owners to get more life out of their hardware until they're ready to upgrade is bad.

Uhm... strange I see Sony providing both tons of PS4 games late in the generation and likely after PS4 comes out as well as first party PS5 exclusives at launch... magic or just holding your console box of choice to a lower bar?

 

[teezzy]

Uhm... strange I see Sony providing both tons of PS4 games late in the generation and likely after PS4 comes out as well as first party PS5 exclusives at launch... magic or just holding your console box of choice to a lower bar?

I play on PC.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I play on PC.

Replace "console" with box of choice then .

 

[teezzy]

Replace "console" with box of choice then .

 

[ChackanKun]

I agreed with him, and MS current ideology is what makes me more interested in an Xbox than ever, honestly

 

[Rathalos]

As a PC Gamer I hate exclusives, I'm currently playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 on Switch at 20-30fps (and even lower at points) at 720p-1080p, when my PC could run it at 144fps/1080p with proper AA.

 

[Tulipanzo]

But there was nothing amazing to play for the first 3 or 4 years, are your really trying to say people were buying a game system 3 to 4 years into advance? If you believe that your just being ignorant for the sake of it when in fact that price was the biggest factor in the incredible numbers and nothing to do with games.

Wow, nothing to play in the first four years?
Have to wonder what BloodBorne, Until Dawn, Uncharted 4, Nioh, Persona 5, Ratchet and Clank, Infamous: Second Son, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Uncharted: Lost Legacy are doing on my shelf...

 

[Psykodad]

But there was nothing amazing to play for the first 3 or 4 years, are your really trying to say people were buying a game system 3 to 4 years into advance? If you believe that your just being ignorant for the sake of it when in fact that price was the biggest factor in the incredible numbers and nothing to do with games.

Well, it happened, right?
You even gave the numbers yourself.

If it wasn't the exclusives, care to explain how PS3 managed to outsell X360 despite launching a year later, at a ridiculous price, with 2-3 years of "no gaemz", while X360 had best performing multiplats?

 

[Tulipanzo]

You have to assume they don't expect people to buy the Series X any time soon with this kind of rhetoric

 

[Hobbygaming]

Come on you know you don't believe that yourself, everyone knows it was the price stop trying to fight. No one is buying a console 3 to 4 years in advance, its illogical.

No one is saying the PS4 being more powerful and cheaper didn't contribute

But at the end of the day, that means nothing if it didn't bring the games

People know what to expect when getting a PS console as was the case with the PS4

 

[Abear21]

Anyone who isn't interested in how this all shakes out is lying and clearly Microsoft has a different approach for next-gen. We'll see if it works, offering a cheaper system for the masses and games across platforms sounds good for consumers in general.

Worrying it will hold games back or disagreeing with a companies strategy is one thing but they do R&D and probably have 100 dudes that just forecast trends so while we can argue on here until next-gen comes, we have to wait and see when that sweet Xbox and PS5 hits shelves.

I'm honestly just thankful as a gamer we are getting consoles this year—hopefully...it seems crazy either company would launch this year and I keep waking up half expecting either Sony or MS to cancel their launch all together. Like, when the fuck is the release? Yeah until I see that I'm skeptical.

 

[Hobbygaming]

Wow, nothing to play in the first four years?
Have to wonder what BloodBorne, Until Dawn, Uncharted 4, Nioh, Persona 5, Ratchet and Clank, Infamous: Second Son, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Uncharted: Lost Legacy are doing on my shelf...

That's a freaking amazing list of games btw

 

[Psykodad]

Anyone who isn't interested in how this all shakes out is lying and clearly Microsoft has a different approach for next-gen. We'll see if it works, offering a cheaper system for the masses and games across platforms sounds good for consumers in general.

Worrying it will hold games back or disagreeing with a companies strategy is one thing but they do R&D and probably have 100 dudes that just forecast trends so while we can argue on here until next-gen comes, we have to wait and see when that sweet Xbox and PS5 hits shelves.

I'm honestly just thankful as a gamer we are getting consoles this year—hopefully...it seems crazy either company would launch this year and I keep waking up half expecting either Sony or MS to cancel their launch all together. Like, when the fuck is the release? Yeah until I see that I'm skeptical.

They probably also had R&D and 100 dudes forecast the trends when they designed and announced Xbox One.

 

[Fortuneelsewhere]

Or course its cross generation Sony just gives it an "exclusive" yippy. At least Microsoft is being honest about it and not screwing over current customers for the "exclusive" label. Spiderman miles should be released on the ps4 its just story line DLC for current version with some new skins.

Haha you wish.. it will sell like hot cakes and will play wonderfully.. the graphics will be amazing of course.. can't wait..

 

[Tulipanzo]

MS seems to not realize how suicidal this is from a marketing point of view, a exclusive titles are what ultimately defines the marketing of your system.

Take the Switch; Nintendo had to prove two things:
1) That it could run games of "home-console" level
2) That their output could be consistent
Without their exceptional first year, those would have had a hard time sticking. Would you believe the Switch could handle big open-world games had BotW not been there? That it would have titles while only playing MK8 for a year?
MS has to prove their console is the most powerful, yet all they get to show are X1 games running better. It's especially asinine when your competitor has comparable hardware aimed at the same audience, playing most of the same stuff.

This also comes with problems with development, quality of last-gen ports, and very doubtful benefits to audience interest.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Gaming isn't magic what's this dude Phil talking about

 

[sircaw]

Thats an old Halo Vid enemies 30 FPS, its still same enemies, same animations, same Jaguar.

You dont think its limiting, I disagree. Jaguar needs to die.

Finally an ally in the fight again dirty fleabags..

 

[LazyParrot]

You really believe MS is going to allow Sony to show them up on 1st party visuals with their games even though the Series X is clearly a more powerful machine - even if their games are cross gen?

Who knows. They've had the performance crown for 3 years now, and nothing they've released in that time looked noticeably better than Horizon, GoW or TLOU2. I've heard people say that that's just because base XB1 was holding them back, but if that's true then that shit is just gonna be the same next gen with Lockhart.

 

[Abear21]

Who knows. They've had the performance crown for 3 years now, and nothing they've released in that time looked noticeably better than Horizon, GoW or TLOU2. I've heard people say that that's just because base XB1 was holding them back, but if that's true then that shit is just gonna be the same next gen with Lockhart.

I agree 100% but many fans just care to have the most power, not actually use it-just like having a gaming PC just to emulate console games. I don't get it, but people care about tech more than the software, and there's nothing wrong with that! But why not just buy the box that plays the game you want?

Of course if Microsoft had their way every game would be released on their more powerful system and look better there, unfortunately for them that's not how things work!

 

[tryDEATH]

Wow, nothing to play in the first four years?
Have to wonder what BloodBorne, Until Dawn, Uncharted 4, Nioh, Persona 5, Ratchet and Clank, Infamous: Second Son, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Uncharted: Lost Legacy are doing on my shelf...

Never said nothing to play, but none of those besides HZD can be consider amazing and would qualify as system seller to the point that you could argue that they sold the system to your casual gamer.

Well, it happened, right?
You even gave the numbers yourself.

If it wasn't the exclusives, care to explain how PS3 managed to outsell X360 despite launching a year later, at a ridiculous price, with 2-3 years of "no gaemz", while X360 had best performing multiplats?

It was the price and release of the PS3 Slim that propelled the insane numbers nothing else, Xbox had the games and it didn't hold PS back. Its all about price and power, which the PS3 Slim had.

No one is saying the PS4 being more powerful and cheaper didn't contribute

But at the end of the day, that means nothing if it didn't bring the games

People know what to expect when getting a PS console as was the case with the PS4

Cheaper and more powerful was the only driving force of the sales, not games, almost all the hits from Sony came in the 2nd half of the generation when they already had 65 Million - 75 Million units sold and that is a fact, so this narrative that you need console exclusives to sell consoles is just bullshit with absolutely no data backing it up, but just fanboy fud.

There is a clear and obvious correlation why systems sell well and the past two generations clearly point towards first and fore most the price with power coming in second and games in 3rd. There is nothing to argue here, if you genuinely believe exclusive games sell consoles your ignorant to the facts and just plain and simply biased.

 

[Psykodad]

Never said nothing to play, but none of those besides HZD can be consider amazing and would qualify as system seller to the point that you could argue that they sold the system to your casual gamer.



It was the price and release of the PS3 Slim that propelled the insane numbers nothing else, Xbox had the games and it didn't hold PS back. Its all about price and power, which the PS3 Slim had.



Cheaper and more powerful was the only driving force of the sales, not games, almost all the hits from Sony came in the 2nd half of the generation when they already had 65 Million - 75 Million units sold and that is a fact, so this narrative that you need console exclusives to sell consoles is just bullshit with absolutely no data backing it up, but just fanboy fud.

There is a clear and obvious correlation why systems sell well and the past two generations clearly point towards first and fore most the price with power coming in second and games in 3rd. There is nothing to argue here, if you genuinely believe exclusive games sell consoles your ignorant to the facts and just plain and simply biased.

XBO has been cheaper than PS4 for a long time.

 

[Great Hair]

smart people change their positions all the time

Phil. has shape-shifted a lot past 8 years. From focus on 1st party, less 3rd party, to we need more exclusive, we dont need exclusive, "i played Crackdown 3 today, was awesome!" for 5 years, cancelling scalebound, what ever The Coalition was working on and told them to make Gears4 and 5 instead.

That dude is bobblehead figure. HE WAS part of the ENCARTA team ... lol at smart people, collecting images, writing text for their (great) encyclopedia.

He was part of the disaster that started 2012 not just Don Mattrick. He was in charge of the Xbox Studios 3rd Party relationships and more and got "demoted" by Matt Booty for a reason.

Only charlatans change their messaging more than Phil Spenser. Matt will one day replace Phil.