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Metroiddarks
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Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2020]
I get this, but DF explaining why something looked bad does not equate to defending Microsoft/343. DF analysis often include explanation for why some effects in games are missing, implemented poorly or create issues. I guess at some point it's about tone / "vibe" ? In Alex video, it sounds to...
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Thirty7ven
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A lot of people love to ignore history and facts.
When it comes to PlayStation, Alex wastes no time in pointing out how lower quality effects are due to hardware limitations, while on Xbox it’s more of an engine limitation or a choice by the devs that can be improved upon.
Halo is 60 FPS and that matters, but Forza at 30 FPS vs GT 7 at 60 FPS is not worth mentioning.
I also remember when DF talked about screen space reflections in God Of War being a limitation of the hardware, but in Gears of War 5 it was a wonderful looking technique.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Dafuq is this?
Edit: **** When clicked on, it goes to a countdown, but the bottom of the Site says "© 2020 Sony Music Entertainment |Terms and Conditions|Privacy Policy|Do Not Sell My Personal Information|Your California Privacy Rights|Send Feedback " ... may not be Playstation related.
Edit: **** When clicked on, it goes to a countdown, but the bottom of the Site says "© 2020 Sony Music Entertainment |Terms and Conditions|Privacy Policy|Do Not Sell My Personal Information|Your California Privacy Rights|Send Feedback " ... may not be Playstation related.
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Bo_Hazem
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I saw the sinkhole video from youtube. You're gonna bring the xbox fans there huh?
The green one on youtube is a small one, they have like 80-50% chance of surviving with broken bones which is 60-50 meters max. I don't want them to suffer, I want it to be fast and painless, I'm not heartless
. The dry Sinkhole though is 250m deep, 90 Million cubic meter in volume (world's 3rd largest after 2 in China), so you can have all xbox fans there and yet you have enough room for Stadia.The other photo posted is 211m deep, some call it "the well of the birds" as sometimes you find many birds flying in circles inside with lots of echos! There is a 4th one that hasn't been studied enough, as I'm aware, and might slide them right into the sea. We should throw just one there to know from the impact sound how deep it is.
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Grodiak
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That's what she said...
Yes I'm bringing it back in 2020
In my eyes, it never left.
Razzy-
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
KPop. Black pink would be a better choice.
Ahhh.. so.. Music related. Thank you!
aclar00
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This is where an SSD could really come in handy. This is more of preference, but it would be better IMO to push a button to switch/transition between both worlds. This would take no more than 3 seconds (if that).
The split screen, especially for a single player game would just give me a headache and cause me to strain most likely.
thurnishaleygw
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R3claimer117
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Dude stop with the bullshit that Sony cares about gamers and Microsoft doesn’t they’re only here for business. This is just console warrior non sense. Halo will still be the a best seller this holiday as will both consoles will sell out. All this doom and gloom is non sense.
splattered
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Man those plates look quality... i wonder how much they would charge for customizable plates that aren't cheap junk. $60? $80? Special edition stuff $100? $120?
The way the thing is meant to be standing vertically though you would never see the plates while you play in front of the TV, just the black body in the middle. I guess it if laid on its side though it could be more visible but that's gonna take up a huge chunk of real estate on an entertainment center or dresser etc
The way the thing is meant to be standing vertically though you would never see the plates while you play in front of the TV, just the black body in the middle. I guess it if laid on its side though it could be more visible but that's gonna take up a huge chunk of real estate on an entertainment center or dresser etc
sircaw
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Is that a genuine tweet. Holy fuck lol. Pizza it is this week, i love the balls on that if it is.
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GRIEVEZ
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Hmm... kind of want to use a vinyl wrap on that bad boy - if both plates are easily detachable, but ive read rounded corners/edges arnt nice for this.
Anyone have experience with vinyl shrink wrapping? (Also wonder if consoles generated heat and texture of plates, would pose a problem. But ive seen examples of this being used for PC cases. If so are there alternatives to more heat resistant shrink wraps?)
Edit: this is probably a very dumb idea, the amount of air bubbles would ruin results.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol haha.
Alex was just too tired to be nitpicky
I think you guys are being too harsh on DF. Alex is right, they have never done a video like this. Especially for Microsoft. I can only imagine the internal struggle that he went through as he made this video. Imagine if TheLastWord had to do a video like this for a PS exclusive. It will completely go against the very fiber of his being. lol
I think this video was titled accurately and you have to put in context. I do think they need to go back to the original slipstream engine trailer and do a full compare. It was recommended to me on youtube, and Richard was gushing over it like a school girl calling it next generation. Although, looking at what they ended up producing, it's clear it was next gen and entirely impossible to do on current gen consoles.
I think that is where they will get even more harsh as they do a scene by scene comparison and see how fucking terrible it looks compared to that so-called in-engine trailer.
JTCx
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This this this.
Months ago there was this poster here shitting on the UE5 tech demo and straight up clamoring about The Medium being the real next gen experience, just WAIT™ until you see gameplay. Instant access between 2 worlds.
When i saw that splitscreen gameplay.... oh my lord....LMAO
Neo Blaster
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And we better forget about it for a while, doesn't seem to release before 2022.
R3claimer117
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Lol
I’m sure all 5 plus million views are just people tuning in to see Craig not anyone genuinely interested in the game. Ahh you guys and your goal posts.
SlimySnake
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Where did you see dimensions on the plate?Looks like 13 In. Tall x 11 In. wide, roughly. So, I guess, that's pretty tall for a console, but not out of the range of the X360 standing...
Assuming I get the dimensions read correctly on the PS5 plate.
sircaw
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Lol
If microsoft sell a stuff Craig Toy/teddy bear i am so getting one.
My niece is 5 now, image her delight as she walks down the road holding onto her new teddy. Can you imagine all the people stopping and asking her, who's your new friend.
On seconds thoughts, I hope she does not cry on opening up the present.
Neo Blaster
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Exactly, what a disappointment. This dimension transitions were what made me interested in the game from the start, but now that we know it's just a split screen, there goes my enthusiasm...and SSD showcase.
MastaKiiLA
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Aspect ratio of A4 is 1.4:1. The paper in that image is ~1.8:1. I came up with the following with just rough pixel counts in GIMP:
464 l
257 w
paper 1.8:1 l:w
538 l
432 w
ps5 1.2:1 l:w
l ps5 : paper 1.16:1
w ps5 : paper 1.68:1
I can't find any chinese paper formats that fit the 1.8:1 AR, so not sure where to start. I don't think it's A4, but that could be down to distortion of the image. I'm not an expert at extrapolating sizes from images, so I'd be interested in seeing what people who are better at this come up with. If I knew the paper format, I'd have more to work with.
If it was A4, the PS5 would be roughly 34.5cm tall, and 35.3cm wide. That doesn't jive with the AR of the PS5 shell, which is easier to figure out than the paper. Maybe I should just use the long side of the paper, in which case, the PS5 comes out to 34.5cm tall, and 27.7cm wide (which is a 1.24:1 AR, which matches what I get with pixel count). That's if A4 paper. Meh...I'm most-certainly wrong, but thought I'd give it a shot anyway.
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
LOL .. You're fine! Y'know, almost no one gets that's a quote from a movie.
jasondefaoite
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I didn't look at the width, but got the same as you for the height.
FeiRR
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I thought it's one of those description floating over people in Watch_Dogs.
Razzy-
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FeiRR
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I can't imagine a fish walking. What are you even...?
sircaw
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Fish bowl rolls, just need someone to kick it, and if it's anything like this forum i will have loads of takers.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Let me guess... Airplane! ??
I guess that wasn't all that difficult
. I'm older.. Love that movie dating back to when it first came out.
Metroiddarks
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In my personal opinion is I like DF work but not from Alex that is why I always mention him not DF, I love the work of John.
Any indie dev which doesn't form part of some xbox discord can tell you that video borderline misleading and the same video looks more as excuse than other thing and not
I don't have to respect his word like if he was Carmack, is a youtuber not a game dev, if I am able to see how he reduce the problem is a ridiculous way any person who
worked in AAA probably is doing this face.
Let's put it in this way, even if Alex is impartial his video still not be correct to say the RT will fix the plain look of the game and the video seems to be communicating the wrong
message, especially coming from someone as picky as he.
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MasterCornholio
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Neo Blaster
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I'm starting the campaign:
Darklor01
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Mr Moose
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It's marketing crap. "Full/True 4K" feel every pixel or whatever. NONE of their games are "True 4K", they are 4K UHD.BTW It is time MS just HAS TO remove those fucking 'Native 4K' labels on their projected new game covers for Series X, the frame buffer might be 4K but there will be A LOT of reconstruction and/or VRS shenanigans going on in the render phase that outputting at the native res of UHD TVs will mean too little shit when in fact the screen is littered in myriad of 720p or 1080p textures.
This just proves MS is no better and still pushing 'Native 4K' for their perceived power narrative with their sucking VRS in play when in fact Sony CB rendering is objectively better and their latest examples on games currently in the market can't be even discerned by DF or any other pixel counters!
DF: Halo Infinite Gameplay Reveal Analysis: Are The Graphics Really Flat?
To come back to the subject, it is absolutely not a problem of texture as some say, nor a problem of LOD, streaming, filtering or even mipmap. We can clearly see that the problem does not concern the textures. These are blocks that overlap perfectly in 3x3, it is not at all in UV space. In...www.resetera.com
sircaw
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WANT TO BUY....
They have teeth, they are so on my list to get one day,
An no, not for fucking cooking fs, PETS.
thurnishaleygw
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Moridianae
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All right. There's absolutely no spin legitimately left. When a verified company like Domino's roasts your franchise's debut, you've seriously f'ed up.
R3claimer117
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There are games that are native 4K stop being obtuse there’s a difference between saying not all games are to saying none that’s just stupid.
Nickolaidas
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.... even pizza places are taking a jab at MS ...
The world has gone insane.
Me? All this Halo talk made me reconnect my X1X, re-activate my Gamepass and started playing Halo ODST -
.... Red Dead Redemption 2 is on Gamepass?
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I just can't.. it looks like a higher power began creating a frog, ran out of frog parts, said fuck it!!!!.. and then went on creating whatever the hell that thing is!
Mr Moose
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0 games are true 4K. That's their advertisement. Marketing crap, like I said. "Buzz words".
OMG lol I want it.
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jasondefaoite
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UHD doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as 4k. Granted there is a resolution difference between the two, but honestly, not an issue to me.
Bo_Hazem
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Don't be harsh, man. Here's a leaked footage of the discord gang after that reveal:
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zufuel
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sircaw
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Mud-skippers are beautiful, take that back.
I got street cred with the mods around here, Don't make me get you banished to spend your days idling inth the Craig sub-forums.
you have been warned.
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