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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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FranXico

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Leak? How about a link?
 

Flintty

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The load times certainly don't impress anyone who has had a decent SSD on their computer.

I have an SSD in my PC and often cross platform play Sea of Thieves with my son (him PC, me X1X). I’m impressed that the load time of that game is now on par with my PC, and my son won’t be waiting for ages for me to join his game.

So yeah, don’t speak for other people, please 👍🏻
 

Gudji

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I have an SSD in my PC and often cross platform play Sea of Thieves with my son (him PC, me X1X). I’m impressed that the load time of that game is now on par with my PC, and my son won’t be waiting for ages for me to join his game.

So yeah, don’t speak for other people, please 👍🏻

Time to upgrade your PC. ;)

Anyway most people I've talked to were not impressed by those load times mostly because of what I just told.
 

xacto

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So another random Tuesday came, and so it will go, then we'll wait for the random Sunday (in Japan), while hoping Sony will have a knee-jerk reaction to Microsoft's moves.

Better set that Google Translate page to Japanese, ladies and gents 😂
 
I had the same impression...

“Journalists” where impressed about BC.
I mean we want a start to next-gen and they are still getting hyped about BC :(

That is sad to think what the industry is becoming.

The industry is not becoming this.

The issue here is MS low effort and the usual suspects attempting to hype up a New product, trying their best to not make It look bad. And the people who Will fall for this is also the usual fanboys who always think everything is right.

The rest Will see that the platform is lacking real New games.
 

ksdixon

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More like your buddy decided to shit up the entire forum because his beloved plastic box isn't as powerful as he wanted it to be and decided to have a quite embarrassing meltdown.

Are you having a fucking laugh?

Why are we all just accepting DF's bias-ass reporting? Comparing XBSX to XB1 in visual mode to make framerate gap seem larger. Dogging Sony for resolutions, but avoiding talking about it for XBSX, talking bout fucking shadows.

This isn't Kinda Funny guest lady, "Miss. Fuck Sony for not giving me free shit", or some YouTube troll like Dealer, DF are suppose to present unbiased comparisons.

C'mon, mods, do the right thing here.
 
Looks like I missed out on a 2020 PS5 pre-order which is a shame because I really really really want to play Demon's Souls, but I managed to get a Series X and I'm sure Cyberpunk is going to keep me entertained for a while :messenger_expressionless:
 

ksdixon

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Yes, at your meltdown right now.

Reee REEEE DF BIAS REEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Yeah, difference is everyone can see DF out here cum-catching for MS.

Bit different from XB FUD trying to make PS5 out to be rdna 1.5, having stock shortages, and all the other examples.

Real big meltdown, mate. I just think it's wrong for DF to not be unbiased, and wrong for Bo to be banned for pointing it out.
 

SatansReverence

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Yeah, difference is everyone can see DF out here cum-catching for MS.

Bit different from XB FUD trying to make PS5 out to be rdna 1.5, having stock shortages, and all the other examples.

Real big meltdown, mate. I just think it's wrong for DF to not be unbiased, and wrong for Bo to be banned for pointing it out.

Yes yes, another entirely unsubstantiated screech about DF being MS shills. Care to bring some facts along?

All Bo pointed out is he has absolutely no idea how pixel counting works then proceeded to have a meltdown throughout several threads.
 

Aceofspades

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Would we have the same discussion if the XSX was only 9.6TF? Difference is just negligible then too?

That was my quote from a year and half (before knowing the specs)

Difference will be within 1-2 TF max between PS5 and Anaconda so very minimal, except PS5 will have some sort of "Secret sauce" as stated by AMD CEO recently 'Hardware RT maybe?

lets wait and see..

AMD CEO quotes link

So to answer your question, yes it would be minimal
 
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Yes yes, another entirely unsubstantiated screech about DF being MS shills. Care to bring some facts along?

All Bo pointed out is he has absolutely no idea how pixel counting works then proceeded to have a meltdown throughout several threads.
Even if he doesn't know how pixel counting works, he tried to prove his point of view. (still posting it in several threads was unnecessary.)
Bo at least posted more compelling evidence to support his claim than DF did in their video.

I don't think questioning DF was reason for ban, neither was being rude or crude...

Do we have some threads with info about how to pixel count, not that I would stoop to that, but to know the basics?
Demon Souls looks really good be it 4k or not.
 
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That was my quote from a year and half (before knowing the specs)



So to answer your question, yes it would be minimal
You are one person... I also remember that people believed the 13TF PS5 rumours, and thought this would be the biggest thing ever.
 

xacto

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Even if he doesn't know how pixel counting works, he tried to prove his point of view. (still posting it in several threads was unnecessary.)
Bo at least posted more compelling evidence to support his claim than DF did in their video.

I don't think questioning DF was reason for ban, neither was being rude or crude...

Do we have some threads with info about how to pixel count, not that I would stoop to that, but to know the basics?
Demon Souls looks really good be it 4k or not.

A bit old, the article, but there's some info in there.

 

SatansReverence

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Even if he doesn't know how pixel counting works, he tried to prove his point of view. (still posting it in several threads was unnecessary.)
Bo at least posted more compelling evidence to support his claim than DF did in their video.

I don't think questioning DF was reason for ban, neither was being rude or crude...

Do we have some threads with info about how to pixel count, not that I would stoop to that, but to know the basics?
Demon Souls looks really good be it 4k or not.

Bo had a conclusion then tried to concoct some delusional justification for it.
 
Bo had a conclusion then tried to concoct some delusional justification for it.
Didn't see any delusion there, he had his doubts about the correctness of the pixel count.
Questioning information given without any proof is healthy.
He tried to improve his methods to pixelcount and provide evidence, and other people were trying to help him.
I think it was just too spammy for some of the Threads.
 
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Nikana

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Didn't see any delusion there, he had his doubts about the correctness of the pixel count.
Questioning information given without any proof is healthy.
He tried to improve his methods to pixelcount and provide evidence, and other people were trying to help him.
I think it was just too spammy for some of the Threads.

Concluding that DF is lying to protect halo and downplay Demon Souls is pretty delusional.
 
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Concluding that DF is lying to protect halo and downplay Demon Souls is pretty delusional.
DF was pretty apologetic about Halo. (Professional graphics analysis channel shouldn't need to apologize for any game)
I didn't see any downplay of DemonSouls in the DF analysis.
I can't tell if RT was used in the demo or not, I can't pixel count so can't say anything about that.
(But if DF makes the claims, they should provide some evidence)
 
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Concluding that DF is lying to protect halo and downplay Demon Souls is pretty delusional.
The whole narrative that DF is lying, and deliberately giving free marketing for Microsoft is ridiculous. Have you seen their reviews for TLOU2, GoW, Uncharted 4? Always very positive. But because it's so hard to fathom for some people that there are also good things to say about Xbox, they think they are biased. Look at the analysis of the Xbox Series S, you can't be more objective than that.
 
I don't think DF is lying at all. I think they counted pixels and determined 1440p which is what will happen if it's upscaled. Nothing wrong with that. I think the fact that they had to count pixels is actually more flattering, it shows that Bluepoint (or maybe Sony as a whole) has a very convincing 4K upscaling technique.

Halo Infinite was dynamic native 4K but it goes to show that 4K assets make all the difference with regards to IQ because while the image was clear it still looked bad
 

Nikana

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He pointed out the inconsistency in their statements. Now I don't know if Bo's conclusion was actually right but it looked like it to me.


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I see a rabbit in this photo. Some see a duck. If someone disagrees are they lying to protect the duck?

Pixel counting is not always a conclusive tthing.The image can be hard to decipher at times. If DF is wrong then they are wrong. It happens.

Going on a tangent about how they are lying specifically to downplay a game on the competition is delusional. Reminds me of when they reported on the GitHub leak and MANY screamed they were biased and irresponsible for even entertaining the idea of those chips being next gen machines.

You can present an argument in a way that refutes what is being said without going on a tangent. And from what I remember of the thread he didn't be actually count any pixels. He simply said use your eyes, they are lying.
 
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Nikana

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DF was pretty apologetic about Halo. (Professional graphics analysis channel shouldn't need to apologize for any game)
I didn't see any downplay of DemonSouls in the DF analysis.
I can't tell if RT was used in the demo or not, I can't pixel count so can't say anything about that.
(But if DF makes the claims, they should provide some evidence)

Where were they apologetic about halo? Because the video that everyone likes to bring up about lying wasn't apologetic in anyway. It even called a lot of the textures flat and unimaginative along with LOD systems that are bad.

That's not exactly apologetic.
 

FunkMiller

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If the last few pages of this thread - and subsequent bannings - show us anything it's that we desperately need to start seeing gameplay footage from both consoles that will give us an accurate, first hand comparison of how they both work for the first time.

Literally nobody on this forum can say for certain which machine is going to perform better, and the endless screeching about one being better than the other, based on nothing other than spec sheets, corporate doublespeak, and 'insider' bullshit is getting extremely tiresome.

Let's fucking see something new and next gen running on XSX, and then we can compare to what we've seen running on Ps5. And let's see last gen games running on Ps5 to clear up the dull as shit BC stuff too.

Everything else: the console box sizes, amount of tflops, gpus, cpus, storage sizes... it's all completely irrelevant bullshit when compared to seeing actual games.
 
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