Shifty1897
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I have a C2 and a B3, no burn in yet.
Sony unveils next-gen RGB mini-LED TV Tech | "OLED Killer?"
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Ashamam
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Low brightness and driving the display as evenly as possible helps heaps of course. Its why I never drive my A9G at full brightness. Also compensation cycles help calibrate the degraded pixels back to something equivalent, but of course that just means driving them harder to get the same brightness.
Personally I think current gen panels will improve the situation, but only in the sense of increasing lifespan, not eliminating the problem or even reducing the eventual impact much. I just think the time curve will look better.
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vivftp
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I use my 77" Sony A80J as a secondary monitor and I can confirm that burn in or at least heavy image retention is a factor. When I first got the TV I would baby it to a degree because I knew burn in could be an issue, so most of the time I'd bump the peak luminance and brightness down a bit when just doing normal computer stuff and ramp it up for watching media and playing my PS5. There were many times where I'd keep the brightness up during the normal PC stuff, and after a few months I noted that part of my browsers UI was burned into the screen. It'd mostly be visible on solid colors, but you could see it when watching certain media. I cursed myself for not babying it enough, and it remained that way for several more months. One day I noticed I couldn't see the burn in so I checked it under conditions where I would have definitely seen it before, and the TV managed to correct the issue so it's now pristine.
So call it burn in or heavy image retention or whatever, but I had my browsers UI on the screen for several months. Now I baby it even more and haven't had any issues since. It's a wonderful TV and it fits my room perfectly as I have it in the basement with no natural light and I have the entire area near the TV blacked out with velvet, so it's basically a giant black hole where the inky darkness of the OLED fits nicely. That said, I wouldn't mind having a TV that I didn't have to baby and one that could get even brighter, so maybe around the PS6 launch I'll think about picking up a newer set. Maybe RGB LED will still be the hot shit at that time and be much more mature, or maybe something else will come along. Either way, with the new HDMI standard that got announced this year, I'll certainly want to have a TV that supports it to go alongside the PS6 as I'm certain we'll get 240 FPS gaming via frame gen, and possibly (hopefully) upwards of 480 FPS, depending on how things turn out.
So call it burn in or heavy image retention or whatever, but I had my browsers UI on the screen for several months. Now I baby it even more and haven't had any issues since. It's a wonderful TV and it fits my room perfectly as I have it in the basement with no natural light and I have the entire area near the TV blacked out with velvet, so it's basically a giant black hole where the inky darkness of the OLED fits nicely. That said, I wouldn't mind having a TV that I didn't have to baby and one that could get even brighter, so maybe around the PS6 launch I'll think about picking up a newer set. Maybe RGB LED will still be the hot shit at that time and be much more mature, or maybe something else will come along. Either way, with the new HDMI standard that got announced this year, I'll certainly want to have a TV that supports it to go alongside the PS6 as I'm certain we'll get 240 FPS gaming via frame gen, and possibly (hopefully) upwards of 480 FPS, depending on how things turn out.
Bojji
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This is what I'm looking at from Samsung
85" Class Smart Neo QLED Mini LED 4K TV - QNX1D (2024) | Samsung US
Discover the latest art display TV features and innovations available in the 85" Class Neo QLED 4K QNX1D.www.samsung.com
I couldn't find detailed specs or many reviews of it. But it looks like higher end for LCD tvs, not top (Sony is nr.1) but it should be ok.
Personally I'm allergic to Samsung OS (Tienzen?), it's really bad.
What? How long do you use one tv? After 5+ years your tv will already be outdated and something new and "exciting" will be available.
Also, LCDs are not immune to time:
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
I use my tv until its dying.
Used a Sony tv for 8 years until it died, and I use my new one until it dies as well.
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Pagusas
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No thanks, anyone saying that has rose tinted glasses and forgot about all the horrible issues like convergence issues at the corner, geometry issues, shadow mask warping causing blooming and many other major IQ issues. CRT's were great for what they were, and they do have some awesome advantages, but the draw backs are way to horrible to ever go back.
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Shmunter
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This tech is no joke. Picked up the latest TCL mini led flagship, my second mini led, previous one a few gens ago. I'm quite confident the thing is just about perfect, no blooming, no grey blacks, pure Infinite contrast.
And then the gaming tech - it fucken frame gens without any perceptible input lag, and I'm pretty sensitive to these things. No such thing as 30fps any more, everything looks 120, lol. Sounds crazy I know, I wouldn't believe it if I didn't experience it first hand.
And then the gaming tech - it fucken frame gens without any perceptible input lag, and I'm pretty sensitive to these things. No such thing as 30fps any more, everything looks 120, lol. Sounds crazy I know, I wouldn't believe it if I didn't experience it first hand.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
Nevermind the picture they where awful TVs to move, weighed an absolute ton.. I remember vividly the sheer hassel of manoeuvring my old Philips 32" wide-screen up a steep step of stairs into my bedroom in the attic back at my ma's, jesus it took near 3 of us to manhandle it up
reinking
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I have a couple of OLEDs but some people act like it is a cult. Bot techs have their strength and weakness. Both techs are also improving like OLEDs getting brighter and LCD getting better blacks and less blooming. No idea what tech my next TV will be because I am not married to either and will go with what my needs are at that time.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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What the model number and how much did you pay?
And on top of it, wait for it wait for it, CRTs have burn in too.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
i think it's time we bring screensavers back with the prevalence of OLED.
vivftp
Member
We already have an oled killer
Its called Bravia 9
game mode black levels, photos from rtings:
Welp this RGB Mini LED tech apparently easily trounces the Bravia 9 based on the impressions of those who got to see the side by side demos. Curious to see the tech evolve in the coming years and how good it'll be in about 4 years when I'm ready to upgrade.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Everything has burn in if you leave a static image long enough.
OLED is just the tech that gets burns the fastest.
Shmunter
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TCL 98C855. This model numbering is specific to euro/au I believe. There is USA equivalent.
diffusionx
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"hardly" a problem lol. OLEDs burn in. It's inherent to the tech. Anyone who denies this based on their anecdotal evidence is either intentionally obfuscating, or lying, or doesn't see it. Your TV may burn in or it may not, but it can and it doesn't take as much as you think. And this is 100% of OLEDs, yours or anyone else's isn't special.
I have an older one that is due for replacement, but it has burn in.
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I'm not sure which actually gets burn in faster, OLEDs or CRT. It's a serious concern for both technologies. (So much so that on the old Atari 2600 some games would cycle the colors to prevent it from happening. Damn, that shows how old I am.) If anybody lives in New England just go to Funspot in New Hampshire. It's got a huge collection of old arcade games from the 80s and yes lots of them have burn-in.