The Witcher 3 vs. Bloodborne

Vote for your Game Of The Generation!

  • The Witcher 3

    Votes: 458 51.1%
  • Bloodborne

    Votes: 438 48.9%

  • Total voters
    896
  • Poll closed .
So you totally understood why you character
turned into a fucking shrimp
at the of the game? Don't know if it's even worth spoiler tagging, but whatever.

Congrats on your keen mind i guess.

If you do the things to get that ending, you'll have gained tons of eyes inside your skull, on your brain and you become a great one, achieving what Willem could not (whereas Laurence was more into the blood, which resulted in the beasts and the hunt).
 
Whelp, we can predict this outcome now since deadline is tomorrow.

Witcher 3 rightfully wins. I am very interested in Bloodborne. And I look forward to one day playing it on the PC if that ever happens, but as far as scope and story goes.. yea, W3 is the winner. Although I would say that BB probably has the gameplay and design nailed down more than W3. It was a close race.
So you have never played Bloodborne but the Witcher 3 rightfully wins? Super objective.

Just like most of these VS threads a lot of people voting have only played one of the games and voted for the only game they have played. I myself am guilty of that too, but for this I have played both and Bloodborne made a bigger impression on me. I am not surprised it is losing, I think it might have been a different story if Bloodborne was on PC though.

My vote goes to Bloodborne.
 
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I don't think the story in Bloodborne is bad. It definitely has an interesting lore and backstory.

But the writing and narrative in The Witcher 3 is top class. It is most certainly one the best games at that, although it shines specially (but not exclusively) in it's side content.
 
Whelp, we can predict this outcome now since deadline is tomorrow.

Witcher 3 rightfully wins. I am very interested in Bloodborne. And I look forward to one day playing it on the PC if that ever happens, but as far as scope and story goes.. yea, W3 is the winner. Although I would say that BB probably has the gameplay and design nailed down more than W3. It was a close race.
If it ever comes to pc you'll find it is the superior all round package and the best FromSoft game yet.
 
If you do the things to get that ending, you'll have gained tons of eyes inside your skull, on your brain and you become a great one, achieving what Willem could not (whereas Laurence was more into the blood, which resulted in the beasts and the hunt).
Thanks, but i would prefer to have understood any of it myself while playing the game.

It's like being excited to know what happens next in the game's story vs not getting anything meaningful whatsoever past the intro cinematic. Imho, Bloodborne veers too much into the latter.
 
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Man if you can't even tell animals apart I just...lol.

You are literal squid larvae woomie on your way to godhood.


Witcher storytelling does not spoonfeed the player, in many occasions you will have to pay attention and analyze a quest to figure out that there is more depth into it than what you might have assumed. This is not Bethesda storytelling here.
Witcher has a story you can follow because it is told in a more cohesive way, the context and the timeline of the story are better explored and therefore its more understandable than a game like Bloodborne which is scattered pieces of lore, that you have to put together and maybe will get something that connects.
Witcher writing contains a lot of neat references from various places like classic literature and pop culture and the quests have depth into them that you can talk a lot about them and about what they represent. They tackle upon issues and subjects that are indeed mature.
The main journey itself is also simple, its not overly-complicated or pretentious to keep hammering the player with weird symbolism or abstract theories and concepts, its a simple fantasy epic journey split into three acts and thats fine, there is no need for it to be complex in that regard, its a well made basic main story filled with great side quests that contain decent depth and those are somewhat complex, those are the quests you tackle on your main story journey. What all of this makes, is a quality of writing that is easy to understand and digest for any player and enough depth for anyone looking deeper. And its all mostly written well, you won't find a lot of cheesy writing or superficial dumb themes being barely touched, its mostly consistent all around.

When it comes to Bloodborne the way they tell the story through scattered pieces of lore is very interesting, but looking at the story itself, what does its overall qualities present? its very unclear. Like for example despite watching many video, I still dont get what themes or subjects Bloodborne story tries to explore? how deep the game explores those themes? how much characters develop and interact with the world? they can barely be defined, their characterization is lacking because you dont interact with them much, they do have backstory and they have a quest or a purpose in Bloodborne's world but thats about it. The pacing and the timeline of the story is also very ambiguous, there is nothing clear here, so its all up for interpretation. And they didnt do very good job at explaining the purpose behind the story itself. Also the context of the story itself is minimal, its not rich, basically all that happens in the world of Bloodborne can be summarized with 1 netflix episode, there is not much content.

Bloodborne story is lacking in many categories, like its there but i would always assume its the lore that is the meat of Bloodborne writing, the story itself is rather minimal and basic. Which is fine, the game main focus is the gameplay loop and the atmosphere, the story was never the focus of this game, its never going to compete and beat a long rich story like Witcher which has its roots in Books/Novels of Dark Fantasy genre, there is no way its going to compete with that, objectively speaking from a critical perspective about writing in general.
Bloodborne fans present solid points for their preference when it comes to gameplay and combat, probably also atmosphere, but when it comes to story its not convincing at all, they want to have their cake and eat it too. NO.
It was all very straight forward to me. If anything Witcher felt more like a Netflix series.

heh.

BB was no fucking Xenogears people.
 
Who activated the bat signal?


Henlo. Real life Dr here. Wanted to support the game of the generation poll by voting for bloodborne, that's the real reason I joined. Can't find the vote button, then it occured to me maybe it's because i'm a neophyte? Idk. Anyways, hi, and hopefully I'll be able to support that masterpiece soon.
 
I suspect there are more in this thread that played only one of the games, so I don't mind letting W3 win because of ignorance. It is what it is I guess.
 
The irony when people got the hidden ending in Bloodborne that you needed to gather all sorts of lore and story to figure out and they still have no clue what the ending meant.

This is why you shouldn't use guides on your first playthrough.
 
Watching Bloodborne getting BTFO warms my heart and restores my faith in humanity. Good job GAF.
But it's not getting BTFO'd. It's pretty close.

Both are great. Although chances are there were more who people played TW3 than Bloodborne. So there's that.
 
I suspect there are more in this thread that played only one of the games, so I don't mind letting W3 win because of ignorance. It is what it is I guess.

Claiming that The Witcher III is only going to win due to ignorance reminds me of when Democrats lost the 2016 election. Just saying.
 
Even with all the politics going on, Witcher 3 is still struggling to beat Bloodborne by a few votes. Says so much really. Next gen is gonna be a long one for certain folk.
 
Well, im not really sure, Zelda BotW is the game that currently holds the most titles for Game of the Decade, at least in journalist websites, in forums it won in the finals against Witcher 3 in GameFaqs by small margin.

On ResetEra, its expected that either Bloodborne or Zelda may win.

Lets not write Zelda off, that game has a lot of fans and its winning a lot, although i got tired of watching Zelda take those contest, imo its not GOTD material but i understand the love it gets.
Usually it comes to the point of Witcher 3 vs Zelda on popular websites, on niche forums Bloodborne does well and joins them.

I gotta say though, I dont buy into the idea that there is a "Game" of the "Decade" or "Game" of the "Generation"
To me this is very arbitary, there are more than 1 type of games, and to limit such title to one game only is unfair, If it was my choice I would go for "Top Games" of the decade/generation, and it will be a list of the ESSENTIAL games to experience as gamer in this decade/generation, without limiting it to one number, maybe Top 10 with no order. I guess thats more fair.

Well be grateful this isn't ResetEra filled with SJW trash, so neither of those games are expected to win.
 
The irony when people got the hidden ending in Bloodborne that you needed to gather all sorts of lore and story to figure out and they still have no clue what the ending meant.

This is why you shouldn't use guides on your first playthrough.
If you are refering to my post about shrimp then i have a feeling i didn't actualy get that ending, most likely got another one and then googled the other two and mixed them up. I didn't use any guides and beat it in about 35 hours, so no lore gathering or anything

Watching now all three "endings" if you can even call them that, just reminded me of how uneventful and dry the whole game was.
 
Claiming that The Witcher III is only going to win due to ignorance reminds me of when Democrats lost the 2016 election. Just saying.

Not ignorance as in stupidity, but as not having experienced both products.
Obviously I can't account for tastes because, you know, opinions.

Anyway, its comparing a subjective matter (story) with an objective matter (gameplay) with these two games. At the end, it all comes down to opinions, yeah, so don't get your panties in a bunch over some tongue in cheek in a gaming forum.
 
Everything about bloodborne oozes character, atmosphere, history and story. The world feels real and it feels like everything has a reason for why it is how it is. Someone had a good point comparing it to Metroid games, especially the Metroid prime one since you had the scanning mechanic which gave you lore. The game is art not a piece of fast food.

Big fan of Witcher 3 though, it just felt more important to defend the idea there's anything lacking about bloodbornes story or how it tells it. I don't consider lore a substitute for story but a lot of great game worlds can be enriched by them while playing bloodborne what matters is that it feels like there's a reason for things and a history to them without actually looking them up. you're in a lovecraftian nightmare somewhat beyond your understanding and the more you understand the crazier it makes you. It's very cool that Metroid came up because super Metroid is one of my favorite games for telling a story using the medium to do so. This means depending on your imagination you can come up with reasons for why things are how they are in different sections of the planet. It doesn't feel like you're just in a section that looks different to look different or for varietys sake, it's more like it's a living breathing hostile world that doesn't simply exist as a set of obstacles for the player. This is similar to bloodborne though it will sometimes rely on mechanics beyond the medium for storytelling quick cutscenes here and there, still the locations have history and purpose beyond simply being a level for you to go through. there is a basic enough surface level story I think most people can understand on one playthrough. The idea that there's something wrong in the blood causing people to turn into things and go crazy and you need to find the source of the problem.
 
CDPR is a developer I followed almost like by accident for years and years. As a kid in France, I somehow got my hands on the Polish release of Baldur's Gate, which was put out by this small outfit called CD PROJEKT. Later, when Aurora games were all the rage (Kotor, Jade Empire, etc.), Witcher 1 was one of the first non-Valve games I every bought on Steam. I've been playing their games ever since. When W3 came out, I was of course expecting a great game - Witcher 2 is amazing, leaps and bounds above its predecessor - but I was not expecting what I ultimately found.

The moment when you enter the tavern and see Priscilla singing the Wolven Storm, her legs crossed above a stool... That's when I realized I had something genre-defining on my hands. I've read Sapkowki's books, of course, but CDPR's Witcher is that rarest of all adaptations: it is superior to the literary work that inspired it in every way.

 
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Imma just leave this here:
Was a good effort though like really close, 2 titans, leaders in their field, but only one could win.

Imma need my blood bros to fall in for that BoTW vote , we gonna push botw to the top spot.
 
Almost the end of the poll, finally, and in my opinion the better game wins it. Shame about dat evasive roll though~ wait a second..
 
Bloodborne obviously had a larger impact on those that played it than W3 did.
I mean.. Witcher 3 is my #1 game.. it didn't get there by having me lounge by the desk with one hand on the mouse cleaning my ears out and singing show tunes~ i guess I'm saying I'm not sure where you got "obvious" from?

And, well, W3 is winning this poll so i guess, according to this site's census, more people appear to have been impacted by W3 than BB~

I'll say this much though,a fair whack of people were impacted more heavily by BB and that's impressive in itself!
 
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People complaining about the story of bloodborne as a mark against it, yet we're ignoring that aspect for mgsv?
I think the difference is that for mgsv people accept that the story is not there, while with Bloodborne some, me included, are confused when people treat it as this narrative high point.
 
Why even comparing those 2 games at all? I dont even consider Bloodborne or any Soulsborne game to be a Rpg, because skill matters more then your stats and abilities. If its possible to defeat all bosses with a level 1 character, then a game isnt a roleplaying game.
 
Why even comparing those 2 games at all? I dont even consider Bloodborne or any Soulsborne game to be a Rpg, because skill matters more then your stats and abilities. If its possible to defeat all bosses with a level 1 character, then a game isnt a roleplaying game.

Genre has nothing to do with these polls.
 
If you are refering to my post about shrimp then i have a feeling i didn't actualy get that ending, most likely got another one and then googled the other two and mixed them up. I didn't use any guides and beat it in about 35 hours, so no lore gathering or anything

Watching now all three "endings" if you can even call them that, just reminded me of how uneventful and dry the whole game was.

So you did not even work towards that ending but still complain that it was uneventful and you did not get it?
That would be like me complaining Geralt ended up with Triss even though I made him end up with Yennefer, but I did check the other ending out on youtube after all.

I wont even bother to explain it to you in that case but hot damn. Do the youtube gaming squad dislike Dark Souls due to "lack of story" as well?
 
Not ignorance as in stupidity, but as not having experienced both products.
Obviously I can't account for tastes because, you know, opinions.

Anyway, its comparing a subjective matter (story) with an objective matter (gameplay) with these two games. At the end, it all comes down to opinions, yeah, so don't get your panties in a bunch over some tongue in cheek in a gaming forum.

I don't wear panties, but if I did they would not have been in a bunch. I wasn't attacking you. I merely responded to you based on how I read your comment.

Also, ignorance does not mean stupidity. As such, I never meant ignorant as in stupid. I meant ignorant as in uneducated on the subject matter, which is what ignorant means.
 
I don't wear panties, but if I did they would not have been in a bunch. I wasn't attacking you. I merely responded to you based on how I read your comment.

Also, ignorance does not mean stupidity. As such, I never meant ignorant as in stupid. I meant ignorant as in uneducated on the subject matter, which is what ignorant means.

 
So you did not even work towards that ending but still complain that it was uneventful and you did not get it?
That would be like me complaining Geralt ended up with Triss even though I made him end up with Yennefer, but I did check the other ending out on youtube after all.

I wont even bother to explain it to you in that case but hot damn. Do the youtube gaming squad dislike Dark Souls due to "lack of story" as well?

Bizarrely, a lot of those complaining about Bloodborne's obtuse story have no issues with Dark Souls obtuse story.
 
Karma shouldn't have baited the bb fans but i for one aren't swayed by those fans saying witcher 3 has no story. It's got plenty of stories, many of them killer.. bloody baron comes to mind.

It's easy to be blasé about anything you fucking want lol. You can say tracking a monstrous aborted fetus at the end of an hours-long quest chain is not impactful.. but just a easily as you say that, another can say the opposite.. and no matter how many assertions you make to the contrary, you'll remain equally wrong/right to that person.

Witcher 3 had a ton of stories, and the central plot was pretty good too. Intrigue, assassinations, etc etc. The only reason you guys can be so cool on Witcher 3 is because it set all the freaking precedents you guys think have been topped by later games.

And by the way, just how much Witcher did you play to build these slack putdowns off of? You're all too good for it, right? Well that means you either played as much as i - and other fans - did despite apparently hating every minute of it, or you didn't play the full experience and don't fully know what you're talking about?

Maybe you loved the game when you played it but decided the cool kids were trashing its combat and talking up a reboot which apparently owes its cache to HP Lovecraft? Man, the best Lovecraft game was on GameCube~

Do you guys want games with stories told obliquely? Man, that's fucking old news, Metroid Prime is one that comes to mind. Hell i wonder if the dude who came up with Soulsborne didn't love the hell out of Metroid Prime~

Anyway, poll's finishing and the game which, unquestionably, many more people can access and enjoy, is gonna win it. I think that's about right. Hell it's a testament to the greatness of BB that it got so close. Bravo, BB.
 
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So you did not even work towards that ending but still complain that it was uneventful and you did not get it?
That would be like me complaining Geralt ended up with Triss even though I made him end up with Yennefer, but I did check the other ending out on youtube after all.

I wont even bother to explain it to you in that case but hot damn. Do the youtube gaming squad dislike Dark Souls due to "lack of story" as well?
How can one even work towards a specific ending in a game like Bloodborne? It's not like it has branches in the narrative where i can make an informed decision towards a particular outcome. You go around killing monsters and bosses, sometimes stumble upon an npc in the most forsaken place spouting gibberish, then forget about them and move on, kill the last boss and finish the game. The only place where you can choose to fight or not is at the very end and it can effect your ending. So how exactly can you work towards specific ending, especially on the first playthrough?

And it doesn't matter that i had another ending, all of them are complete non sequiturs if you are not autistically piecing together every bit of lore.
 
How can one even work towards a specific ending in a game like Bloodborne? It's not like it has branches in the narrative where i can make an informed decision towards a particular outcome. You go around killing monsters and bosses, sometimes stumble upon an npc in the most forsaken place spouting gibberish, then forget about them and move on, kill the last boss and finish the game. The only place where you can choose to fight or not is at the very end and it can effect your ending. So how exactly can you work towards specific ending, especially on the first playthrough?

And it doesn't matter that i had another ending, all of them are complete non sequiturs if you are not autistically piecing together every bit of lore.

Choosing wether or not you are finished or demand more blood is quite a vital decision I'd say. And you would not need to be a mastermind to figure something like that out.

To get the "become a shrimp" ending you need to find three (out of four) umbilical chords of the great ones, devour them and thus gain enough insight to transcend humanity. Just like you can enjoy the backstory of the monsters in The Witcher 3 you fight, especially during the different contracts, most people with even a moderate interest in story probably wonders why the fuck you fight the different abominations you encounter in Bloodborne as well. Obviously you did not and think that interest in a game you play is somehow related to autism instead.

If you prefer The Witcher 3 to Bloodborne fine, it is all subjective and both are great games. But you should probably stick to linear or "go to point x to unlock x" open world games if you fail to see that Bloodborne has a story. Not all games are for everyone after all. Writing about Bloodborne in an almost insulting tone and making this thread more serious and infected than the entire politics subforum is so silly that this entire game of the generation contest has left a sour taste in me by now.

I think I'll boot up the PS4 again tonight, a hoonter must hoont after all.
 
So nobody could give me a non-subjective argument as to why they call the Bloodborne "story" so special.






Max's SoulsBorne Tier List: Best Of Souls & Blood
Bloodborne 10/10
Lore, Gameplay, Audio, Theme, Visuals, Feedback, Atmosphere, World Build, DLC, PVP, Community, History, no hand holding, git-gud

Witcher 3 8/10
Lore kinda, Gameplay "meh, ok?", World Build & Visuals (on PC), DLC, Sidequests better than Main Quest (what´ve heard, never made it past the griffon)
 
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Just like you can enjoy the backstory of the monsters in The Witcher 3 you fight, especially during the different contracts, most people with even a moderate interest in story probably wonders why the fuck you fight the different abominations you encounter in Bloodborne as well. Obviously you did not and think that interest in a game you play is somehow related to autism instead.
I played Witcher 3 for about 10 hours so i don't know for sure, but i can assume it has npcs, books and notes with all the interesting information about monsters, right?

Of course i was interested in who these abominations were and why i had to kill all of them, but where could i find all this information in the game? There were no notes, no newspapers, no books, npcs were mostly useless.

You're talking about spoonfeeding the plot etc., but in games like Prey or Dishonored or System Shock they don't throw everything in your face, but if you are interested you can explore and piece together a rather whole picture of the events.

Bloodborne goes overboard with its "not spoonfeeding". The only way to understand the lore and interpret it in the right way is to be a die hard completionist and collect every item. It's a fact, that's why there are hour long videos dedicated to the game.

Demon Souls and Sekiro at least gave you a concrete motivation and purpose.

Dark Souls and Bloodborne is some downright esoteric shit.
 
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