[RUMOR] CrazyLeaksonatrain (Leaker) leaks Bloodborne, Uncharted Collection, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War for PC
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VFXVeteran
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I see this comment a lot. That's not why Sony has started porting over to the PC. I asked my friend why? He said, "it is too much of a userbase to not take advantage of and game budgets are getting too expensive."
That's a sound logical answer to me.
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lifa-cobex
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You're both right.
martino
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I really doubt FOMO is that huge and frequent that people are not able to wait when exclusivity is timed...
And this will make people think most exclusivity can release on pc if they wait more than anything else.
i would add if it's really the strategy; it's too late ...EGS has already helped people to develop a huge immunity to that kind of move (/jk of course)
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cm osi
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yes i'll wait. sony completely killed any interest i had in the ps5
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Gravity Rush 2 for pc
jakinov
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This is super good move for Sony and their developers It's a lot of extra profits and strengthens their IP. They introduce these games to millions of more players who are going to want to play the sequels even more when they come out on PS5.
I know people like to argue that why even buy the PS5 if they could just wait and get it on PC. And that may be true for some people with the will power but there are going to be people that cave and do get a console. Even if they don't you still made money off them; and at the end of the day you just wanted to sell games to them not so much the actual console so if people already had PCs (or an Xbox too) you probably would have already had a hard time making royalties off them anyways. There are a lot of things where you can wait and get a better value, basically every game for example. But you don't really see crazy demand for games throughout the life cycle when they get cheaper unless there some sort of temporary promotion or some significant event to drive up sales; you mostly see it near when the marketing and hype is high i.e. near launch.
I know people like to argue that why even buy the PS5 if they could just wait and get it on PC. And that may be true for some people with the will power but there are going to be people that cave and do get a console. Even if they don't you still made money off them; and at the end of the day you just wanted to sell games to them not so much the actual console so if people already had PCs (or an Xbox too) you probably would have already had a hard time making royalties off them anyways. There are a lot of things where you can wait and get a better value, basically every game for example. But you don't really see crazy demand for games throughout the life cycle when they get cheaper unless there some sort of temporary promotion or some significant event to drive up sales; you mostly see it near when the marketing and hype is high i.e. near launch.
Senua
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
I don't know man, the Japanese government became quite successful gaining their peoples respect after pearl harbor.
But in the end they lost a lot more for being assholes.
What you may refer to, is that theyve learned their lesson, where Americans hasn't yet?
(edit my post wasn't mean to be harsh against Japanese or Americans. Just against stupidity. Used OPs logic sense until I realised I was rigrolled.
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SlimySnake
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He's referring to a gaf meme
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Oh I thought he was serious lol.
Bryank75
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You don't increase IP value by making it available everywhere, the value of Gold for instance is based on its scarcity.
If Van Gogh mass produced The Starry Night, it wouldn't be worth near what it is.
Nintendo didn't need to bring Mario to every platform to increase the IP's value and everyone in the world knows, you pretty much need a Nintendo to play Mario and Zelda.
This whole initiative is really an indictment of PlayStations marketing department and budgets..... they funded and launched amazing games in the past such as Gravity Rush, Everybody's Golf and recently Sackboys big adventure without any real marketing push at all.
Making a video and putting it on the PlayStation Youtube alone is just not enough....
They have also made a lot of consecutive moves that really are anti-consumer, raising day 1 game prices, advertising games as exclusive and then bringing the games to other platforms.... essentially false advertising, on top of the false narrative that Spider-man MM and other games like Horizon would be next gen only.
This bullshit story that 'games are expensive to make' is incredibly condescending.... of course games cost more but PlayStation has many more sources of income now and makes more profit than it ever did. The exclusives were never about making profit on their own, they were showpieces and games made to address gaps in the market or niches and expand the consumer base.
Jim Ryan is an ignorant and incapable leader with a 2 dimensional grasp of the industry, he was shielded from the real competition for years and years due to his position in europe, which sided with PlayStation by default.
He also looks like a pig dressed up in a suit with some straw for hair...
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Next E3 when Days Gone 2 and other ps titles gets revealed:
PS4 isn't high end. Weren't at release and it isn't now.
When PCs with decent specs can play most games 1440p 140+ fps on high or ultra settings then I can't see why it wouldn't do the trick here.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Yup and with them releasing PS4 classics it doesn't hurt/affect the PS5.
Bryank75
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Disagree, those PS4 games could be reasons to buy a PS5..... instead they have just given away that advantage.
GhostOfTsu
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Ok then how about naming those PC games instead? You got many likes so I guess VFx and co agree that you have better games than Bloodborne, God of War and Ghost of Tsushima on PC? Damn I want to play them ASAP!!! Where are they?
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
This thread, man.
Can't wait to see all the pictures of people's new sick gaming rigs (funded by their eBayed PS5s) so that they can continue to pay Sony to play the same games they were going to play anyway, but two years after they release, out of spite.
... Or not.
Can't wait to see all the pictures of people's new sick gaming rigs (funded by their eBayed PS5s) so that they can continue to pay Sony to play the same games they were going to play anyway, but two years after they release, out of spite.
... Or not.
S0ULZB0URNE
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No cause they are dated and people still can play them on PS5.
Sony moved on with them as all of them have been free for plus.
It's better to release them on PC as they aren't bringing in money these days...just sitting there collecting dust.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Sorry but those caliber of games don't exist in modern PC gaming.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Believe or not, there are many that mains a PC and only have a ps4 for the exclusives.This thread, man.
Can't wait to see all the pictures of people's new sick gaming rigs (funded by their eBayed PS5s) so that they can continue to pay Sony to play the same games they were going to play anyway, but two years after they release, out of spite.
... Or not.
Just like it was for Xbox before they released everything on pc.
PC has so many great games anyways and aren't brand loyal so they see a Sony game as being equal as good (or worse) than a game from any other brand, and they don't mind waiting because there's so many games anyway.
If you main a platform like pc, you really don't want to throw 499 euro on the table to buy ps5 brand new games at 80 euro.
We are taking about gamers that waits for the right steam sale to buy something that's years old for fifty percent off, and you expect the same people to buy a ps5 to buy Sony exclusives day one?
PC players has back logs all the way back before the first console generation. There's no draught in games, either new or old.
Reality Czar
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Go for it, I say. These games rule and are great and more people should play them.
I don't see why anyone really needs to be salty. These are old ass games, Playstation players have already been playing them for years. Anyone on a PCMR trip is actually late to the party. But have fun playing these old games.
I don't see why anyone really needs to be salty. These are old ass games, Playstation players have already been playing them for years. Anyone on a PCMR trip is actually late to the party. But have fun playing these old games.
SLB1904
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None of that is true
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This! The games that are coming to PC are old as fuck now and PC players are going to have to pay almost full price to play some games that were released 4 years ago or more. Most those games you can play for free if your a ps plus member so there is still incentive to buy a PlayStation Console. Only time Sony will start releasing games day and date is when they have there own store on PC.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
It's funny the best games according to you are sonys. Doesn't seem biased at all.
But I'll bite.
Half-Life: Alyx
Total War series
Dota2
Blizzard games except war 3 reforged.
Civilization
Black Mesa
Of course, its all about taste and genre. Some prefer rpg, other fps, and someone else exclusives.
But imagine the same games you mention will run better in performance and even better graphics on pc.
So yeah, pc will out best sonys games on another platform.
Looking forward to hear about your experience with your pc in the near future! Pc is a beast.
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Bryank75
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So, short term cash in exchange for undermining every time they announce a new exclusive.
Cause now, every time a game is announced, everyone will say 'timed' after it says 'exclusive' in the trailer or they will just go on and on about how the games are not real exclusives and how 'everything comes to PC eventually'.
Nintendo never did this and they are the ones to really watch, the ones that took Japan away from PlayStation and threaten europe too.... not Xbox.
Sony are so blinded by Xbox, they have no idea what they are doing.
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SlimeGooGoo
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Gravity Rush reboot with woke characters
packy34
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Microsoft has already proven that you can still sell consoles while putting your games on PC.
jakinov
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You definitely can increase IP value by making it widely available especially when we're talking about entertainment brands. Gold literally isn't an IP and it's value comes from it's scarcity/rarity, and it's physical properties. It's value doesn't come from the fact that you can only buy it at one store because you can get it everywhere.
This Van Gogh example is not great either, and it also has to do with scarcity/rarity again.
If you wanted to argue about Sony only printing limited copies of your game and charging a shit ton of money for them to make people want to spend a lot of money on a brand then your gold and painting example would be fine. But if we're talking about games that aren't scarce (i.e. they still make a shitton of them and will continue to) and the business is to try and sell as many copies as possible then they are extremely weak examples.
Nintendo didn't do that and they still got successful brands but does that prove that you can't increase brand value by making it more widely available? No. Can you strengthen your brands by not making yourself more accessible? Sure. But even for Nintendo there's still room for them to make their brands even more valuable but they just happen to think they'll make more money making sure they get every console sale they can.
And to make sure we're on the same page, by increasing value I mean in the sense that it's a money generating IP and not if a game using it sold later for a high price when they stopped making it. I mean growing their IPs so that if a other companies were to buy it off Sony they'd pay a lot of money because a shit ton of people know what it is and have proven to want to put money towards it. I don't mean so that in 100 years there's some weirdo who wants to spend $10 million dollars for a copy because there was only X printed ever for 1 console.
More people can buy game, more people can like the brands, IP value goes up. I don't know of any entertainment brands that get value from being not widely accessible.
Bryank75
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Sony will go from selling the most consoles to selling 'some consoles' .....
What a regressive move.
Bryank75
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Every single IP derives value by limiting access, that's why HBO do not put all their stuff on Netflix..... sure Netflix would pay them but the content is of more benefit being exclusive to HBO Max, whether new or old.
Mickey Mouse can't be found in Universal Studios either from what I gather.....
I also think some big games like GOW should only be purchasable for a limited time during the year and come back to the store every year or two at full price and only have small discounts. But launch at 60 rather than 70.
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worldwithpyramids
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I can't believe so many people are against this solely on the worry that this might cause Sony to not sell as many consoles. Like, what the fuck.
Azurro
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bender
What time is it?
Sony's strategy will be interesting. If they keep the ports mostly a generation behind, I can't see this impacting their console sales all that much. This just seems like a win-win scenario.
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StreetsofBeige
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Coke and Pepsi can be found on every block. Seems to work wonders for them.
Bryank75
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If they came out and actually said that it was only old games from last gen, then that would make it clear and although I personally wouldn't be happy about it, I would be at least less anxious for the future of the brand.
Unfortunately the communication and messaging has been shit and they could be planning anything.
Again I place 100% of this at the feet of Jim Ryan. He's done a crap job since taking over.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Undermining?
Sony made PS5 exclusives will stay on PS5 until maybe a year or 2 after PS6 releases.
Sony isn't blinded by Xbox
They actually have exclusives during each generation.
Sony is this industry leader they set the standard not follow.
Bryank75
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They're drinks...
But even there, they are exclusive to certain fastfood joints and bars. McDonalds has Coke not Pepsi here.
Golgo 13
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It's interesting to consider Sony is taking a "cake and eat it too" approach to their exclusives - appease the pissed off people by releasing exclusives day and date on PS5 but making PC folks wait a few years but then also appeasing PC gamers by bringing the titles to their platform (eventually). I dunno, it's sort of "sneak fuckery". At least Microsoft is "all in" and has been super transparent since FOREVER that all their shit would come to PC day-and-date. It's like Sony is running an isolated, on-the-fence experiment to see if this hurts their brand.
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