Yeah, there are console/platform warriors everywhere except for stadia
Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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Topher
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Yeah, it's really just re-wording the same argument that has been rehashed time and time again. It is a bit hilarious because the positions flip-flop when we go from acquisitions to timed exclusive money-hatting, but at its core is the same exact argument. Some Sony fans argue that buying a publisher like Activision Blizzard is significantly different than buying a studio like Bungie. Then we talk about money-hatting and some Microsoft fans argue that money-hatting games like Stalker 2 is significantly different than money-hatting big games like FFXVI.
If they could monetize memes, this guy would be a fucking millionaire.
ChorizoPicozo
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Why?. they serve as a cautionary tale.
Banjo64
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No, because this is also about Microsoft’s internal cloud infrastructure, their subscription plans and their ability to accept big losses in the short term to foreclose rivals in the long term.
IFireflyl
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until marketing deal ends which 24, after that first COD GP Day 1 game will advance warfare 2 2025 by sledgehammer which kind funny because the last COD game MS had marketing with is Advance warfare 1 by sledgehammer in 2014
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
If CMA rejects this, cant MS just say fuck it and buy Activision anyway and simply choose not to sell Activision products in UK?
I find it bizarre that one country can dictate an acquisition like this. No one else seems to have an issue with this.
I find it bizarre that one country can dictate an acquisition like this. No one else seems to have an issue with this.
Calverz
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Yea I’m not really sure how it works.
Ezekiel_
Banned
No one else, like only Brasil and Saudi Arabia?
FTC (US) and EU haven't rendered their decision yet
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Don't worry darling. The deal is going to be approved. There is not IF in this or another universe.
xHunter
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Apparently the agreement between ABK and MS states they need the approval of 4 major jurisdictions: US, UK, EU and China:
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Its a 2 way street
All those Xbox guys about to have strokes over this deal are just as bad as the Sony guys who want Xbox to fail
Both companies need to do well to push each other just as bad as we need AMD to bring a great RDNA3 to market at a reasonable price to check Nvidia
DJ12
Member
Pretty sure being a paid shill is the dream.
Why do all this for free when others getting paid for that shit.
Topher
Identifies as young
Well first, vacating the UK wouldn't be a simple matter at all, but yes, they would not be able to operate in the UK if they acquired AB if the deal were rejected. Nothing really bizarre about it. This is among the challenges corporations face when they become global. But why should UK care if other countries have a problem with it or not? Should the US base its M&A policy on what others are doing? That's basically the same thing as not having a M&A policy.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Yes, but the UK accounts for something like 10-15% of their whole market, and such a disruption could make everyone rethink their deal.
USA and EU probes have launched already, you just haven't got their input yet.
Considering the parity of laws among these regulators, expect the concerns to be similar.
The only governments who approved the deal without probes was Brazil and Saudi Arabia where consoles cost like $1000 and their market is tiny compared to UK+USA+EU.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Wait wat? MS actually paying this dude?
Ok. So he is an inspiration of how far can you go.
Topher
Identifies as young
I agree with you, but there seem to be a lot of guys like this colteastwood along with this timdog character as well as destain whatshisface and rand al thor. Am I just missing the PlayStation equivalents of these guys?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Yeah there are a lot of them on Twitter that I wont give a shout out to and several from here that made their own forums even that I visited for awhile that was super toxic at the time
ChorizoPicozo
Member
There was one on youtube. It was sad.
Banjo64
cumsessed
They’ve all been banned from GAF.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
So we agree that's its a marketing deal. Nice we finally agree on something.
By the choice of words you used in your post, I believe my post was worded badly.
Back when all this started, a lot were denying that Sony paid to keep games away from gamepass. Resident Evil was the only evidence back then so I got told I was wearing my tinfoil hat for saying Sony would spend money to do that.
Now that it has been revealed they do it will several titles, we are all calling it marketing all of a sudden.
Topher
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Former GAF folks have become as notorious as colteastwood? Really?
HoofHearted
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It's not that hard to find the equivalent console vomit warriors for Sony as well ...
jose4gg
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It is not. The only thing that is hard is Sony directly giving cloud to those fanboys as Phil has done with Colteastwood.
Topher
Identifies as young
Sure....but I'm talking about successful ones. They have a large following, YouTube channels, meet ups with Sony execs. I mean....look at this guy:
twilo99
Member
Slipped through the cracks that one lol
GHG
Gold Member
Who are the Sony guys that Jim Ryan/Hulst/Shu cosy up with, validate and provide content like regulator responses to before it goes public?
digoutyoursoul
Member
He is one arrogant bastard that man, some of the patronising he has done in the past to people who simply offered a different point of view .
Things like “well I don’t care for your opinion” because someone said they didn’t think a game was as good as he stated and they were polite too.
Seeing people like him prosper makes me gag. The phoney arse licking brigade. Telling them everything is fine and don’t listen to haters. Can’t stand it.
JLB
Banned
There was one stadia warrior around here, though he stopped being a believer after some time I think.
Topher
Identifies as young
Ninja Theory, Obsidian, Inxile, Playground, Compulsion.....seems like a lot of cracks.
I should have been clearer. That's the social media type I'm talking about. They are like an unofficial arm of Microsoft marketing.
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DeepEnigma
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Global economies were in better shape.
Combined with eventually you will see scrutiny after constant consolidation.
Banjo64
cumsessed
No.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Sorry I wasnt referring to how Xbox officials go onto these guys podcast and such I meant how they acted like Sony was their religion and want Xbox to implode
Its not hard to find the Twitter warriors for either side
bluecowboys
Banned
Not true, a lot of xbox influencers want to see these games on game pass day one and have parity. Remember, xbox is bigger than consoles. It includes PC and Cloud services too.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Stadia :'(
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
No, people were denying that Sony was paying specifically to block gamepass, because you had fuck all evidence to support that. Well all knew Sony had clauses in their marketing deals blocking gamepass, and we were telling you the same would apply to COD, which should have been obvious.
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Forsythia
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Yeah, a lot of these are just mental and want some kind of retaliation for Microsoft losing last gen (which was their own fault, but they seem to forget that).
But I think most Xbox fans are just happy if the entire ABK catalogue ends up on Game Pass.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
So only MS should be prevented from acquiring big developers because they invested in cloud and offer a popular subscription service? I always thought Sony got into cloud game streaming first as well as offered the first game subscription service on console. Doesn't PS+ have more subscribers than Game pass? I am not seeing them as an entity than can be forclosed on unless MS could pull GoW and Last of Us off their platform.
In order to compete losses have to be taken in fact Xbox has been taking losses since they first entered the console gaming industry. When is this forclosing on rivals going to happen? It's been 20 years and last I checked Sony and Nintendo were just fine. Besides who is more likely to block a mode or title on a rival console MS or one of the other competitors in this space?
Xbox influencers also want Activision employees to be free of Bobby Kotick as well as have Activision work on more than just CoD. This acquisition is much bigger than CoD.
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SlimySnake
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Yeah, we have seen arrogant Sony come back in full force this gen after winning last gen with a 2:1 advantage. Whats going to happen if MS bows out and Nintendo effectively turning itself into a handheld only company? They've already increased prices on games, controllers and consoles. They will undoubtedly increase prices on PS+ next. They are making fewer next gen exclusives than ever. If MS leaves, I promise you will see zero first party exclusives from them going forward. They are only making them to sell consoles. And their incredible first party is pretty much the only reason why everyone still puts up with Sonys bs.
If the deal does get rejected, its not game over for MS. The deal was not going to bring new games to Xbox gamers anyway. They were always getting CoD and Diablo, and well Activision doesnt make much else. What they can do with this $75 billion is invest back in their first party studios and ensure games like Hellblade 2 are actually released 4 years after reveal. Ensure games like Perfect Dark, Avowed, Everwild and Halo Infinite arent in constant turmoil with directors leaving mid development. Hold on to those guys and offer them extra money. More resources. Hire smaller support studios like Nixxes to help finish games faster. Go shopping in Singapore, India, China and Eastern Europe for these support studios and gobble those up instead.
I think fans should be flabbergasted by the lack of Hellblade 2, Fable, Avowed, Everwild, State of Decay and all the games they showed off at the xbox reveal. Aside from Hellblade, not a single game has seen any gameplay footage. What have these studios been doing for the last two years? Why dont they have the resources to get these games done faster if their parent company can afford to spend $80 billion on big publishers? Their anger is misplaced imo.
DeepEnigma
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As in, I call bullshit there, Jez. Everyone is a virtue signaler when they want their team to win.
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Topher
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All of the sudden? Why are you pretending these deals have ever been anything outside of a clause embedded in marketing deals?
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Banjo64
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They should be monitored more tightly than Sony and Nintendo because they own their own infrastructure, yes.
It’s more their near unparalleled ability to take losses in the short to medium term (if needed) for their subscription service.
They don’t own their own infrastructure.
Game Pass and PS Plus (Essential) are different services, but I think you know this.
Their recent/current strategy is what matters. They weren’t buying publishers 20 years ago. They are now.
? Blocking a mode temporarily vs taking a franchise away for ever. Please don’t be disingenuous.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I may be in the minority here but I am having a hard time buying the whole Xbox Influencers are wanting this deal to go through because they care so deeply about wanting Acti employees to be free of Kotick
This sounds like a cooperate script handed down by Xbox to those influencers
SSfox
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Bungie won't create any Playstation exclusive, they were only got bought to give Hermen and Jimbo some advices on how to design GaaS games.
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Topher
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I wasn't talking about exclusives.
Banjo64
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SSfox
Member
So it doesn't change anything that they bought Bungie or not, next Bungie FPS would've have been released anyway on PS
It was said loud and clear, even if you don't want to believe Sony (which i can understand), but you can believe Bungie, it make no sens and they have no reason to lie straight to the face of their millions fans.
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Topher
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It was asked if Sony first party lacks a FPS. I didn't say buying Bungie does anything other than give Sony first party a FPS.
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