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Its biggest on playstation and it's not even close. Xbox fans want this to be the death of cod on the platform. It wont be regardless of the outcome of this and it really upsets them.
Sony fans are mad that COD could be an Xbox Game Studios game. Xbox fans want this to be the death of COD on PS. At the end of the day, as a gamer, the game will still be on PS and Xbox, and we can buy it for whichever platform we want. Or both platforms for that matter. I buy it for my PS5 and my XSX. Makes no difference to me if Sony or MS owns Activision, or if nobody buys Activision. Just keep giving me COD, as I enjoy playing them.
 
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Posted a thread about this and the mods deleted it, can't reply back to it, seems kind of childish of them. So I'll post it here and it can get lost like everything else in massive OT threads.

Good work GAF.

It was already posted here, where it was supposed to be....

Spencer says in the interview that they offered 10 years right after the deal was announced. Where did the 3 year thing come from then?

 
Well I'm happy for you xbox gamers who are fond of mobile phone games.
We are happy of the other console fans, who had their console manufactureres heavily invested into free to play online mobile games for the last 6-7 years making billions from those mobile games every year and pretending that they only focus on consoles. We are happy that MS even if the last, finally decided that having a side business in mobile gaming can also be helpful to your console business(just like the other two console manufacturers)
 
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Giving 8 days to submit proposals to initial concerns =/= offering remedies.

But that is what the article said....

"Britain's antitrust watchdog said on Thursday it would launch an in-depth probe into Xbox maker Microsoft's (MSFT.O) $69-billion purchase of "Call of Duty" maker Activision Blizzard (ATVI.O) after the tech giant failed to offer remedies to soothe competition concerns."
 
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This has to be one of the most outrageous statements in a massive thread full of outrageous statements. In what world would any sane person think Sony should be entitled to put their name on someone else's property? Why would Sony be able to block the owner from exclusive perks for Sony gamers only on someone else's property? In what world should Sony be allowed to block the owner from putting their own property on their own subscription service.

Simplified: Why should Sony be entitled to control something that belongs to Xbox? Please explain.
Existing contracts. Sony makes a mint off the franchise. What else could there be? Use some logic here.
 
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Giving 8 days to submit proposals to initial concerns =/= offering remedies.
They refused to do anything at all.
They can only write fluff on blogs and during interviews to prove their "goodwill".
They're not serious in accepting compromises, too bad it's clear the regulators are totally serious in blocking this if such compromises are not accepted.
 
Well I'm happy for you xbox gamers who are fond of mobile phone games.



If that's all that mattered they could have got a deal/partnership done with ATVI once the Sony marketing deal expires for a fraction of the cost of the buyout.



In this case? Because Activision literally agreed to let them.

I'm pretty sure Activision didn't agree to this in the event of an ownership change after their 3-year non-forever contract expires.
 
We are happy of the other console fans, who had their console manufactureres heavily invested into free to play online mobile games for the last 6-7 years. We are happy that MS even if the last, finally decided that having a side business in mobile gaming can also be helpful to your console business(just like the other two console manufacturers)

What are you even trying to say here?

Show me where Sony and Nintendo fans championed huge acquisitions due to the potential for mobile phone games being under the respective umbrellas.

I thought you guys were console gamers. I must have been mistaken this whole time.

I'm happy for all gamers :messenger_heart:

All gamers already have access to all of Kings games. Unless you've been loving under a rock and don't have a smartphone.

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I'm pretty sure Activision didn't agree to this in the event of an ownership change after their 3-year non-forever contract expires.

I'm referring to the current contractual agreements. If the deal goes through there is no way those conditions will continue to exist. Nobody is arguing otherwise.
 
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It was already posted here, where it was supposed to be....
No worries, didn't think it was a big deal since I see a ton of other content about this deal having separate threads but I guess I was wrong.

At any rate, 10-years is a long time and Sony should be happy with that unless they expect these committees to set in stone what they want and are are confident it will happen.
 
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But that is what the article said....

"Britain's antitrust watchdog said on Thursday it would launch an in-depth probe into Xbox maker Microsoft's (MSFT.O) $69-billion purchase of "Call of Duty" maker Activision Blizzard (ATVI.O) after the tech giant failed to offer remedies to soothe competition concerns."

In the new Verge interview Phil says he hasn't had any specific requirements asked yet (I think that's what he means with the regulations word here).


I have not sat down with a regulator where they have proposed any regulations. I think what people are purporting to report in the press about what's happening is maybe more rumor and hearsay.
 
What are you even trying to say here?

Show me where Sony and Nintendo fans championed huge acquisitions due to the potential for mobile phone games being under the respective umbrellas.

I thought you guys were console gamers. I must have been mistaken this whole time.



All gamers already have access to all of Kings games. Unless you've been loving under a rock and don't have a smartphone.

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The ever shifting narratives of tribalism.
 
All gamers already have access to all of Kings games. Unless you've been loving under a rock and don't have a smartphone.

King for MS, everything on game pass for Xbox and continued CoD for PS.

Everyone's happy, don't be a sour puss G :messenger_smiling_with_eyes:
 
Existing contracts. Sony makes a mint off the franchise. What else could there be? Use some logic here.
Sorry, but Sony's contract is a 3-game, 3-yr contract not a forever contract like they expect MS to give them, it's not even a 10-yr contract. The fact that make a mint off the property does not entitle them to continue all those advantages once the contract expires either.
 
If that's all that mattered they could have got a deal/partnership done with ATVI once the Sony marketing deal expires for a fraction of the cost of the buyout.
They would have done that.
It's just that Activision was on silver plate this time.
 
The ever shifting narratives of tribalism.

It's gone from "COD will be exclusive and on gamepass" to the realisation that it will not be exclusive and worse still won't be on gamepass until the marketing contract expires.

So now we are supposed to believe that everyone is happy with those deal going though becease of... King?

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They would have done that.
It's just that Activision was on silver plate this time.

And yet they still managed to overpay. The reality of the situation is that Kotick didn't want to go out in a way in which he didn't win. Provided this deal goes through, he's won and then some.
 
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In the new Verge interview Phil says he hasn't had any specific requirements asked yet (I think that's what he means with the regulations word here).


Also from the article E Elios83 posted:

"The regulator had given the companies until Sept. 8 to submit proposals to address the CMA's concerns.

On Thursday, the CMA added that Microsoft informed the regulator that it would not be offering any undertakings."
 
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It's gone from "COD will be exclusive and on gamepass" to the realisation that it will not be exclusive and worse still won't be on gamepass until the marketing contract expires.

So now we are supposed to believe that everyone is happy with those deal going though becease of... King?

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Candy Crush! Fuck YEAH!
 
I'm referring to the current contractual agreements. If the deal goes through there is no way those conditions will continue to exist. Nobody is arguing otherwise.

I agree with that as does Xbox and Microsoft. I'm pretty sure you knew that already. My post was in regard to Sony's attitude of entitlement AFTER their contract expires.
 
And why would they be bound to release COD on that smartphone because of some contract, instead of just COD mobile? This is why no one signs a permanent deal.
For the same reason they are suggesting they will release it on that other mobile SoC but I'm saying what stops that from happening with the 10yr proposal?
 
Also from the article E Elios83 posted:

"The regulator had given the companies until Sept. 8 to submit proposals to address the CMA's concerns.

On Thursday, the CMA added that Microsoft informed the regulator that it would not be offering any undertakings."

I would refer to the most recent source with any info on something like this TBH.
 
And yet they still managed to overpay. The reality of the situation is that Kotick didn't want to go out in a way in which he didn't win. Provided this deal goes through, he's won and then some
Entire Activision-Blizzard's is still a win
 
Also from the article E Elios83 posted:

"The regulator had given the companies until Sept. 8 to submit proposals to address the CMA's concerns.

On Thursday, the CMA added that Microsoft informed the regulator that it would not be offering any undertakings."
MS have better position with phase 2.
It makes sense why they don't want concessions.
 
It's gone from "COD will be exclusive and on gamepass" to the realisation that it will not be exclusive and worse still won't be on gamepass until the marketing contract expires.
The contract for marketing for the current 3 year/3 game span was never in question. It's a contract. MS did it with Ghostwire. MS did it with Deathloop. They have to honor an existing contract. Unless of course said contract had a stipulation that stated "unless bought out", in not so many professional terms.
 
I would refer to the most recent source with any info on something like this TBH.

That's fine, but Phil Spencer saying he hasn't "sat down" with regulators doesn't mean Microsoft officials haven't been in contact. What E Elios83 said wasn't made up at all.

MS have better position with phase 2.
It makes sense why they don't want concessions.

Sure....that I absolutely agree with. That would be like betting blind in poker.
 
What about all the consumers and various platforms? We shouldn't give a fuck about about the corpos winning.
This is still a big win for a lot of people even if the modern attitude towards big corporations is to view them as "evil" or whatever. When this deal goes through Game Pass is going to have a litany of titles drop as well as a ton of new games over the years to come that drop day and date. If people who don't have an Xbox want to partake they can buy an Xbox, or use cloud gaming, or sub to Game Pass on their PC, etc.
 
I agree with that as does Xbox and Microsoft. I'm pretty sure you knew that already. My post was in regard to Sony's attitude of entitlement AFTER their contract expires.

Their entitlement is regarding whether or not the games will get equal treatment on PlayStation going forwards. Ironic I know considering the terms of their current marketing deal but it is what it is. It takes two to tango and Activision agreed with it.

Entire Activision-Blizzard's is still a win

Sorry but I'd be taking that 70 billion and dividing it up to get the next COD games day one on gamepass, purchasing some more studios the size of Bethesda (Cdpr anyone?) and then throwing some money at the likes of From Software to create some new IP exclusive bangers for gamepass and the Xbox platform. And you'd still have money left over to invest in their existing studios, engines and middleware.
 
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Sorry but I'd be taking that 70 billion and dividing it up to get the next COD games day one on gamepass, purchasing some more studios the size of Bethesda (Cdpr anyone?) and then throwing some money at the likes of From Software to create some new IP exclusive bangers for gamepass and the Xbox platform.
MS isnt Sony.
They have windows store, and they don't have a foot on mobile sector.

That is alot of revenue, compared to focusing on their console.
 
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