feynoob
Banned
They want to go ahead of FTC, especially with recent news.
As for the fees, here is the deadline for each set.
Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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As for the fees, here is the deadline for each set.
NickFire
Member
If that's legit then yup, there's a huge incentive to determine how many fights they have quickly. That's a billion dollar swing between mid January and FTC hearing date.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
Reading you toss around insults then make a claim based on… well, fuck all, is about as cute as
Topher
thinking they've posted a "gotcha" twice now.WeAreVenom8659
Banned
You're correct in that you didn't post any gotchas.
However, you think you did, as evidence by your (awesome) Charlie Murphy gif and the "nah you just don't want to answer" reply after the bullshit question was posted.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
Miss me with this pejorative nonsense.
feynoob
Banned
Swift_Star
Banned
some of you are so desperate and backed into the corner because you know the deal is severely threatened that now you're lying saying Starfield was never planned for PS consoles. How sad is that? 
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This last page of the topic is too crazy even for me.
Be civil gentlefolks !
Be civil gentlefolks !
Topher
Identifies as young
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
feynoob
Banned
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I thought that might be why you deleted your post. I may not always agree with you in the great console war, and even though you are a trashy furry hooker, you're a class act.
Edit - I take that all back, I looked at your gifs eeewwwww
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
I can't believe there was drama and I wasn't
Involved in it
Someone @me next time there are insults and shit posting. I love to throw a good few slurs
Involved in it
Someone @me next time there are insults and shit posting. I love to throw a good few slurs
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Business as usual.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It would be wise to put a lid on it. Especially after the chest pounding during the CMA phase that, "we are not going to stop at Zenimax and Activision." My goodness, what a dumb thing to say during this process. Reeked of corporate hubris.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Best skit comedy show of all time. Next to In Living Color of course.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Their most recent statement blew me away what was it? we were willing to give peace a chance or something like that. The hubris is strong with this one.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Im dying lol
Swift_Star
Banned
Yes, the "holier than thou" attitude MS is having will surely comeback to bite them in the ass.
Wulfer
Member
Topher I'm not going to step on your toes your right that Starfield was headed to PS. Surly we haven't forgotten the reason MS bought Bethesda in the first place right? Let me provide a reminder why MS moved so quickly; threw down and raised the stakes in the game!
https://screenrant.com/sony-negotiating-starfield-ps5-exclusivity-xbox-bethesda-buyout/
However no one knows what would have become of Bethesda if Sony had signed that deal. Did we forget there were clear rumors that Sony was buying Bethesda?? Again MS announced Starfield as a Xbox exclusive (AFTER THE BUYOUT) as a no you didn't get your way with this game (putting it nicely).
So, anyone wondering why PS isn't getting Starfield now knows why their not getting it. The above article is a great refresher!
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Topher
Identifies as young
I think Microsoft would have bought Bethesda regardless of what Sony did. Microsoft said after their initial purchases of Ninja Theory, Obsidian and the rest that they were not done. I hadn't heard the rumors of Sony attempting to buy Bethesda though. Certainly possible. And if that is true then that more than anything would definitely motivate Microsoft to act.
I remember the debates we had here on GAF about whether Bethesda games would be exclusive or not. It was certainly not clear until after the acquisition that is certain. I remember arguing heavily that Starfield would be on PS. Boy was I wrong. lol
Wulfer
Member
Do you think the FTC looked at these articles and took them into account before accusing Microsoft of limiting the games market? See the way I see it, MS made the Bethesda games exclusive to Xbox to show MS has exclusive games to their system. This an answer to the "Xbox has no games" chants and they were loud. This shut those individuals up point blank and period. I'd expect Activision/Blizzard games to be Multi-platform (well at the very least COD). However this doesn't not mean MS should make Bethesda games Multiplatform! Nope nada, Sony lost that right by trying to lockout MS out of Bethesda games. Sony tried to take MS out of the game and now you get nada! Hey FTC how about reading some of those docs before suing someone...
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James Sawyer Ford
Banned
What are you taking about?
Microsoft can do whatever they want with the studios they own, like Bethesda, but there's a precedent that had been sent by Microsoft making deceptive and conflicting statements. They said there was no incentive for them to make Bethesda games exclusive, and yet they did it anyway.
That act of deception is now grounds for blocking future acquisitions, especially when they are 10X the magnitude of the Bethesda deal
This has nothing to do with Sony trying to obtain a timed exclusivity deal
All you need to do is look at the big 4s biggest games to realise they have a point.
The listed games from the big third party publishers (this is by the EU in the Zenimax case):
Electronic Arts ("Fifa", "Need for Speed"), Activision Blizzard ("Call of Duty"), Take Two ("GTA V") and Ubisoft ("Assasin's Creed").
Ask yourself did their big AAA releases come to switch. Did Assasins Creed Valhalla release on Switch, did GTAV, did COD:MW2, did Need for Speed Unbound?
It's not difficult to see how the xbox and PlayStation are competing for sales of these third party AAA games whereas switch doesn't really apply in that market.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
"In its merger notice to the European Commission on ZeniMax, Microsoft stated: "Future decisions on whether to distribute ZeniMax games for other consoles will be made on a case-by-case basis, taking into account player demand and sentiment. Factors that will inform Microsoft's decision-making on future games include consumer demand and preference and the willingness of third parties to work with Microsoft to launch games for their devices." (Microsoft ZeniMax Form CO, January 29, 2021, at p. 5)
I don't know how anyone could conclude that MS was going to publish all future Bethesda titles on PlayStation from that. It isn't that confusing and what should matter is if MS has broken any pledges to regulators or broken any contracts to other companies they were working with. Point out the broken contracts and then we can question MS' trustworthiness.
I don't know how anyone could conclude that MS was going to publish all future Bethesda titles on PlayStation from that. It isn't that confusing and what should matter is if MS has broken any pledges to regulators or broken any contracts to other companies they were working with. Point out the broken contracts and then we can question MS' trustworthiness.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
This is essentially the reason for the EUs here nor there comment imho. No harm no foul. The FTC don't want any perceived increase in MS power so regardless of what this acquisition means for the industry they need a reason to stop it. And in this case it means making a mountain out of a mole hill that even the EU don't give a shit about.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Because no one is refering to that. We're refering to the document that's been posted a thousand times already that came AFTER the case by case statement
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Witchilich
Member
Apparently the Series S is a threat to Switch. They even mentioned the "console war".
Theres no way people believe they will win this case.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Ass of Can Whooping
trying to explain basic English to a couple of posters a few pages back;
Can't believe someone actually quoted purexbox as a source
The funniest thing is they've all accepted Ho Egg Law as their lord and saviour, and even he's tried to explain it to them.
Witchilich
Member
All I did was post a direct quote from FTC. Even if it was directly from a Hoeg Law video, why all the drama?
He is talking about the FTC. They lied in their documents that MS promised concessions to EU during the Zenimax deal to make future titles multiplatform. Even though the actual statement by Microsoft to EU didn't hint to that.
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It's more the case that you're lying about what the FTC has said.
Banjo64
cumsessed
No drama, just expressing my disbelief that people can't understand it
No… they didn't. They said that Microsoft said they have no incentive to stop releasing Zenimax games on rival consoles. They didn't say it was a commitment. They didn't say that the EU cleared the deal based on that statement. They are just highlighting that it formed part of Microsoft's submission, and was pretty quickly found out to be a lie.
feynoob
Banned
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Of all the retarded takes this one takes the cake
Thirty7ven
Banned
The guy says the European Union called FTC liars.
Dude is an idiot.
Jingoism for the win dur dur dur
You know it's bad when the same fuck heads who cry
then turn around and sing 
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Ronin_7
Member
The case is in August 2nd, MS had until June 31st to close this deal or will lock bad. I'm not even sure if this makes it to Court unless CMA & EC approve the Deal which is Highly UNLIKELY.Apparently the Series S is a threat to Switch. They even mentioned the "console war".
Theres no way people believe they will win this case.
feynoob
Banned
It will happen, if CMA approves it.
laynelane
Member
There's too many unknown variables to give a definitive answer. We have, for example, yet to hear about any big moves being made by other regulatory bodies besides the FTC. They only thing we do know is MS intends to fight for the deal but more information is required to see how that will go.
Topher
Identifies as young
Nah, I don't think the FTC concerns itself with console war stuff. Microsoft making Bethesda games exclusive made perfect sense to bolster the Xbox library in the face of PlayStation's library which was eating their lunch. I don't think either Microsoft's of Sony's long history of timed exclusives has anything to do with this.
Topher
Identifies as young
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Imagine being a self-proclaimed CEO showing such complete and utter ignorance over what they're talking about.
Sony of America has 33 000 employees and they've been pretty much running the Playstation / SIE division for almost 20 years now.
Most of Playstation's studios are located in the US, so a lot of their taxes are actually paid in the USA.
Microsoft on the other hand channels their international revenue towards tax haven subsidiaries like "Microsoft Global Finance", an Irish company with tax residency in Bermuda ($100B in investments, $0 in taxes) and "Microsoft Singapore Holdings" ($22B in profits, $15 [fifteen dollars] in taxes). Not to mention Puerto Rico:
Whomever is suggesting that more money to Microsoft == more money to USA taxpayers is either ignorant or lying.
laynelane
Member
Another day, another angle.
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