Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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Yeah, you're right bro. It's all good. Just been a constant barrage of xbox are doomed etc and you are right. I'll use the ignore more. Just not really any threads apart from xbox bashing ones on front page.

I'll start using the ignore thread/user buttons more.

Creating an echo chamber for yourself isn't healthy either for other reasons btw. In all honesty you should be able to deal with the critism of the platform provided you're not emotionally/financially attached in some way.

Hope everything is fine with you, mate. And if not, stay strong. You got this!

He's Phil.

eric cartman fighting GIF by South Park
 
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Let me give you a tip. Hook that PC of yours directly up to your LG C2, get a comfy loveseat/armchair and plonk it in front of it.

I promise you you'll never cry about xbox again.



What you're referring to are whats called arbitrage investors, that's something different entirely. Activist investors have a longer term view and seek to make the company in question change in some way that they deem as beneficial to their long term holdings and/or some external reason (environmental, employee welfare, etc).
Oh you're right. I just realized this is about activist investors.

Well, that's my cue I guess. I gotta get some sleep now. Talk to you guys later! ❤️
 
This deal needs to get done. They need it, not to compete with Sony but to position themselves against the company that will eventually buy Sony or the PlayStation business. The more I think about it. Apple makes the most sense. I expect to see this within the next 10 years.
The Japanese government wouldn't allow it, literally. Apple would have an easier time buying Microsoft and that would also likely be blocked too.
 
Yeah, you're right bro. It's all good. Just been a constant barrage of xbox are doomed etc and you are right. I'll use the ignore more. Just not really any threads apart from xbox bashing ones on front page.

I'll start using the ignore thread/user buttons more.

Definitely need to ignore the Xbox is doomed bullshit. We've got a post above talking about Sony selling off PlayStation too. This kind of bullshit is designed to rile folks up. Make fun of it or ignore it. You are good either way. The challenge is to not become what you despise.
 
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Yeah, you're right bro. It's all good. Just been a constant barrage of xbox are doomed etc and you are right. I'll use the ignore more. Just not really any threads apart from xbox bashing ones on front page.

I'll start using the ignore thread/user buttons more.

Why don't you create an account at REEE. There's BobLobLaw, T0kenAussie and Trup1aya over there. You can talk to them about how great Phil is at the acquisition thread.
 
Yeah, you're right bro. It's all good. Just been a constant barrage of xbox are doomed etc and you are right. I'll use the ignore more. Just not really any threads apart from xbox bashing ones on front page.

I'll start using the ignore thread/user buttons more.
Take care of yourself. No need to get so worked up over it. There are people on this site that love to dogpile a topic with multiple threads. It's annoying to see a tweet in a thread, then a topic about the tweet, then another topic about a clickbait headline on a site about the tweet, and then someone's "innocent" ask about the future of X heavily influenced by the original tweet.

I'd ask mods to help but it has to be an endless and thankless job.
 
Well yea ok then. An acquisition is for as long as MS prefers rather than with a contractually mandated end date.

I think you know the difference but prefer to play semantic games.
You said: "But an acquisition is exactly that - in perpetuity" And then immediately proven wrong. Take the L. If you disagree with an opinion that's fine but don't claim the truth is BS just because you don't like it.
 
This is significant...

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Usually this signals a change in structure, divestiture, or a decoupling (Microsoft) from a previous agreement. I don't think Activision looses COD under any circumstance. Things are about to get spicy regardless.

If the Microsoft deal fails there's two ways this plays out:
  • Activist investors group together, buy as much stock as they can in order to buy a seat at the table and tell Kotick what to do.
  • Or activist investors group together, short stock, stock price goes down, low price make Kotick cry, activist investors tell Kotick do what I say or price stay low.
Morgan Stanley are being hired in this scenario to act as protection/deterrent for both possible scenarios.
Gonna add to this, as I had to go through a billion (s) dollar merger for work back in 2021 (not in gaming, although I have worked with Bethesda on some of their upcoming games since).

I'll start with my opinion: this is the first public indication by ATVI that they are anticipating the deal will fall through. As ive said prior, M&A purchasing agreements come saddled with good faith clauses - hiring Morgan Stanley as Activism Defense indicates they are planning on safeguards should the current board remain in charge. This isn't the thing you would do if you think you're about to get bought.

As GHG said, you normally do this cause you know some group or groups within your investors might begin or have incentive to band together and work against the current executive board. When M&A deals like this fall through, in the event that the company being purchased is also a publicly traded group, they are going to take a hit on the stock price. In traditional deals, when a purchasing agreement is signed, the stock of the company will normally trade near or around the agreed purchasing stock price - that has never been the case with ATVI, which is being bought for about $96 a share (been trading in the $70s on average since last Jan. When the deal was announced). This is notable because anyone who is holding ATVI right now is hoping that they will get a $20+ per share bonus on their positions once MS completes the purchase.

Last week, one of the reasons Pachter and other funds/groups who are currently holding ATVI positions started making up pure FUD after the CMA PF came out is because the have positions which will devalue should the deal not go through, or current stockholders start selling their positions.

With the deal now being severely threatened, we now enter a position where ATVI has to plan for the contingency that they are gonna have a lot of pissed off stock holders who bought into ATVI for over a year, expecting to get paid out at $96 when they came in in the $70s. When this deal falls through, ATVI leadership is gonna get $2-$3b from MS, and that is loads of money that an Activist Group could rightfully demand get paid out to all stock holders, either in the form of Dividends or inflating the stock price to be higher with stock buy backs, or demand that the current executive management step down, or a combination of all these factors.

Interesting times ahead. Given MS' silence and now this, we are probably nearing the endgame
 
Dissent within the FTC.



Much ink has been spilled about Lina Khan's attempts to remake federal antitrust law as chairman of the Federal Trade Commission. Less has been said about her disregard for the rule of law and due process and the way senior FTC officials enable her. I have failed repeatedly to persuade Ms. Khan and her enablers to do the right thing, and I refuse to give their endeavor any further hint of legitimacy by remaining. Accordingly, I will soon resign as an FTC commissioner.
 
why does everyone here have a C2 besides me i want the oled experience

They are the best gaming displays on the market by a country mile. They are a popular choice for gamers and with good reason.

You can save a bit of money if you shop for one of their previous gen OLEDs. I got a brand new 55 inch CX last year at about 50% off the original retail price. Similar deals can now be had for C1s if you shop around. Also, don't dismiss other brands OLED panels. I also have a Philips 805 and it performs better than the LG C1 by every metric (other than some gaming specific features) despite sharing identical panels.
 
Interesting that if MS get blocked from completing this deal because they, as the FCC has said, they can leverage their power from other segments (cloud, etc)....than what other companies could buy activision for that money? Google, FB, Apple, Amazon should all be eliminated for similar reasons.

Regardless, still keeping my money down that MS will still close the deal. Its a question of what concessions they'll make. If it gets too much, they could still win in courts with their case.
Should this deal not go through, its highly unlikely anyone else will want to buy them.

MS honestly ignored a lot of fundamental problems with the ATVI deal, all so they could get the revenue stream and added Azure business; other big tech players will not do this, no matter how attractive the prospect of owning CoD is.

On the flip side, a lot of the reasons as to why Kotick moved to sell at the end of 2021 are no longer factors; CoD is back to doing well, Blizzard has/will release(d) some of their stronger forecasted items, ATVI is now back in active development on new AAA IPS (new IW offshoot in Texas/Blizzard Survival Game), and Kotick has taken ATVI through the bulk of the scandals and investigations and suits that were threatening him in the 2nd half of 2021.

Also, MS has no court they can take the CMA to in order to bypass them; they can claim impropriety, and the UK court simply kicks it back to the CMA for re-review. This, along with ATVI now hiring outside banks to act as Activist Investor protection is probably all we need to know to get an idea on where this is likely headed (vacating the purchase agreement).
 
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/microsoft-defend-activision-deal-eu-hearing-feb-21-2023-02-14/

A Microsoft spokesperson confirmed the oral hearing.

The Xbox maker announced the Activision Blizzard acquisition in January last year to help it compete better with leaders Tencent (0700.HK) and Sony (6758.T), but has run into regulatory headwinds in Europe, Britain and the United States.

Microsoft is expected to offer remedies after the hearing.

Also the ftc administrative judge finally signed something but it was the boring document about remote depositions.

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ft...verningthe_taking_of_remote_depositions_0.pdf
 
They excluded Nintendo from the high performance market because they don't make high performance consoles

Good lord this is not difficult lol

They excluded Nintendo because Microsoft submitted internal strategy documents that explicitly said that Nintendo is not a direct competitor. They might have included Nintendo if Microsoft's internal strategy documents didn't say that.

Anyway, Microsoft would still fit that criterion. The CMA raised concerns on two points:
  1. Console market share: Microsoft currently has a 40% console market share in the UK, which would jump up to more than 55% if they acquire COD and make it exclusive, based on the surveys and analysis conducted by the CMA.
  2. Cloud gaming: Microsoft already has more than 60% market share in the UK cloud gaming market, which would increase further after the ABK acquisition.
You guys can't really believe the shit you say do you? If so, it's really sad. I hope it is just your regular old trolling. Inventing a market to fit an argument is not how markets are formed.
 
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Dissent within the FTC.



This just means Khan is winning. Special interest boys and girls crying on their way out.

Also most of the time, if not every time, somebody in politics quits they aren't really quitting, they got shown the door.
 
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That's just your selective memory talking. Why the fuck do you think da console wars have been centered around PS and Xbox since the 7th gen days?
Because people hate that Nintendo is winning despite appealing to a younger audience. Anyone who doesn't factor in Nintendo to the success or failure of ms and ps is a loon. MS knew this. That's why they tried to buy them. It literally doesn't matter if the specs are less. You can clearly see the market doesn't care.
 
Because people hate that Nintendo is winning despite appealing to a younger audience. Anyone who doesn't factor in Nintendo to the success or failure of ms and ps is a loon. MS knew this. That's why they tried to buy them. It literally doesn't matter if the specs are less. You can clearly see the market doesn't care.

Has fuck all to do with Nintendo's success. They weren't part of the same conversation when they succeeded with the Wii nor when they failed with the Wii U.
 

But regulators are not letting Microsoft compete? The bought Bethesda with top IP like Elder Scrolls, Fallout and Doom.
 
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Has fuck all to do with Nintendo's success. They weren't part of the same conversation when they succeeded with the Wii nor when they failed with the Wii U.
Yes, they were. They are always in the conversation. They are in the same boat as ps or ms. If you don't like them for whatever reason that's fine but they are still competing for you videogame spending dollar.
 
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They are the best gaming displays on the market by a country mile. They are a popular choice for gamers and with good reason.

You can save a bit of money if you shop for one of their previous gen OLEDs. I got a brand new 55 inch CX last year at about 50% off the original retail price. Similar deals can now be had for C1s if you shop around. Also, don't dismiss other brands OLED panels. I also have a Philips 805 and it performs better than the LG C1 by every metric (other than some gaming specific features) despite sharing identical panels.

I got a S95B instead after comparing them, thought it was clearly superior for movies at least. Would've gone with the AK but I got a great deal on the Samsung.
 
Definitely need to ignore the Xbox is doomed bullshit. We've got a post above talking about Sony selling off PlayStation too. This kind of bullshit is designed to rile folks up. Make fun of it or ignore it. You are good either way. The challenge is to not become what you despise.



It's all fucking doomed.. :)
 
Cma gave the option of behavioral remedies or only divest?
They essentially said that they are leaving the door open for behavioral remedies, but took great effort to point out that access agreements will not suffice towards quelling their objections. They also have historically shot down remedies that sees them acting as the enforcement agency in perpetuity.

CMA needs to leave it open lest they are accused of impropriety. Their current schedule doesnt have them making a final decision until April anyway. The chances of MS crafting behavioral remedies that will suffice aren't 0%, but its closer to that than anything else.
 
Man at the end of the day, just buy Blizzard and screw Activision and King. Work out a marketing deal or gamepass deal if COD is that important. It won't happen but it's the dream.
 
This just means Khan is winning. Special interest boys and girls crying on their way out.

Also most of the time, if not every time, somebody in politics quits they aren't really quitting, they got shown the door.
It doesn't mean Khan is winning. Khan lost against Meta in real court and didn't appeal because she knew she couldn't win. Chances are better than not that she'll lose to Microsoft in district court as well unless she can prove that the merger would be illegal.

The remaining republican commissioner quitting is not surprising. Republicans are going to want to make sure it's Khan standing alone against the law when the Supreme Court digs in to their administrative process this year so there's nobody but her to blame for any fallout.
 
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