MistBreeze
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If Microsoft deal with Nintendo and Nvedia includes all xbox studios games then Sony can ask the same deal,
Which means xbox is third party
Which means xbox is third party
True, and Sony announce-drop of SoP after months of radio silence signifies thisWell, this press briefing has confirmed two things for us:
- One, Microsoft is not looking to divest Activision and COD. They'd rather walk away.
- Two, the meeting with EC didn't go well at all for Microsoft. Sony is the happier party today.
Had to come back to this because it is hilarious. Activision Blizzard had no problems whatsoever with helping Sony along the way with their "two-decade dominance in video games". As long as they were riding the PlayStation cash cow, all was good.
Now ABK are riding in for a big payday with Microsoft's money and they found Jesus.
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I can't get where u took sony happier partyWell, this press briefing has confirmed two things for us:
- One, Microsoft is not looking to divest Activision and COD. They'd rather walk away.
- Two, the meeting with EC didn't go well at all for Microsoft. Sony is the happier party today.
These games would come to Switch 2, not Switch. Switch 2 will have plenty of power.
Yes.... Someone that has never googled average salary of any country outside of his.Buy an XSX...........it's only $500
That long-running debate as far as how Nintendo relates to Xbox and PlayStation is officially over.
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That long-running debate as far as how Nintendo relates to Xbox and PlayStation is officially over.
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she gets excited ...............sometimesIs this one of those new AI bots that keeps repeating stuff?
This guy had to go to Munich security council and throw the bone that Xbox getting Activision will help the war in Ukraine and even Sony could not argue against that statement.That long-running debate as far as how Nintendo relates to Xbox and PlayStation is officially over.
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Wasn’t ever a true debate, just a dishonest narrative pushed by dishonest posters who can never be wrong about anything.That long-running debate as far as how Nintendo relates to Xbox and PlayStation is officially over.
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Cry me a river, Xbox users have been dealing with less choice all of PS4 and now PS5 gen. Still waiting for FF7.So less choice for those not on Xbox. I have both consoles but not everyone can afford that. This is terrible for people not currently on Xbox.
That was never a signed deal, it was never promised, it was never offered. Why are you holding on to it?Worked out well with Bethesda *cough Elder Scrolls*
That long-running debate as far as how Nintendo relates to Xbox and PlayStation is officially over.
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The cloud.....what happened to Google? I mean it's not unexpected that other publishers wouldn't oppose the deal. Why would they? They also benefit from consolidation / less competitors.
Cry me a river, Xbox users have been dealing with less choice all of PS4 and now PS5 gen. Still waiting for FF7.
That was never a signed deal, it was never promised, it was never offered. Why are you holding on to it?
Point is just like Minecraft continues to be Multiplat, COD will probably stay that with many Blizz titles. Single player games do well with exclusivity not multiplayer games.
At least there’s some link between FF7 and Sony with the original being made for the PS1.Cry me a river, Xbox users have been dealing with less choice all of PS4 and now PS5 gen. Still waiting for FF7.
That was never a signed deal, it was never promised, it was never offered. Why are you holding on to it?
Point is just like Minecraft continues to be Multiplat, COD will probably stay that with many Blizz titles. Single player games do well with exclusivity not multiplayer games.
Wait, it's windows store only? That's as good as useless then if it doesn't include steam purchases.Source: https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/microsoft-and-nvidia-announce-expansive-new-gaming-deal
Yes, i have posted it for the third time.
In 10 years time Xbox will not renew the contracts for Sony, Nintendo or Nvidia. Lo and behold, all activision games are exclusive on gamepass. Good for gamers my ass.
Heres the logical hole in the argument MS seems to have 0 answer for, when touting marketshare stats like this.That long-running debate as far as how Nintendo relates to Xbox and PlayStation is officially over.
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Call of Duty MW2 is nearly 15 years old and yet the franchise is still breaking recordsBut in 10 years, will those franchises still be of value or would something else be in place for them?
If base PS4 level is "plenty of power", sure. And that's optimistic, might be more like Xbox One.
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Exclusivity is obvious for most things besides Call of Duty. Maybe a few other titles. MS is not a Sony charity. They're trying to compete against a dominant player.Heres the logical hole in the argument MS seems to have 0 answer for, when touting marketshare stats like this.
MS is arguing that this deal is simply to open up which platforms these games are available on. The core argument they presented today is two-fold: the ATVI purchase is both a) great for consumers because it will enable more users gain access to these games whereever they play, and b) this is great for the laborers and unions within ATVI.
Heres the problem: none of ATVI's output is exclusive to Sony, meaning hey - its not like this deal will facilitate expanded support moreso than these two remaining independent would. CoD isn't PS exclusive, its available anywhere ATVI wants to put it. If CoD or anything else ATVI publishes is not on some storefront or platform, that was ATVI's decision.
So now, MS is saying oh, btw, heres how badly we are being beaten by Sony in the console marketshare space in Europe. Loads of charts and figures pertaining to this. Okay great - now, lets suppose then that MS buys ATVI; if MS is getting 0 exclusivity from this purchase, then why would this deal affect this marketshare split? If MS is truly genuine that this is merely to grow where their titles will be available, how do they intend on having this purchase facilitate them growing their marketshare in that region WITHOUT limiting the places in which this software releases on? MS claims this is Sony trying to enshrine their marketshare position, and yet, by saying so, they are directly saying that this purchase would threaten Sony's marketshare position, and the only real way this merger has at doing so would be if some form of exclusivity for Xbox were to emerge from it.
Maybe, maybe not. Did you think CoD would still be relevant than 20 years ago? Blizzard is riding the success of its own ips since forever (with good reason).But in 10 years, will those franchises still be of value or would something else be in place for them?
I'm still waiting for Dead Rising 3 on PS. See how that worksCry me a river, Xbox users have been dealing with less choice all of PS4 and now PS5 gen. Still waiting for FF7.
bobby kotickNot enough crazy. Who did this to her?
The steam deck is basically a portable ps4 in terms of power I believe. The difference with a console of course is that you can "code to the metal"I think it'll be more like PS4 Pro. But I guess we'll see.
so ONLY sony not being onboard will block the deal , interestingIt gets more and more clearer that MS needs Sony to accept the deal in order to buy ABK. Otherwise they wouldnt shoot so much in their direction.
Any day now I'll be playing Titanfall on PS4I'm still waiting for Dead Rising 3 on PS. See how that works
Yet they specifically said today that not only was the future of gaming cross-platform, we have folks saying the Nintendo/MS deals extends beyond ATVI and includes all of Xbox software. MS is claiming that this deal will not affect Sony's marketshare position and that they have no intention on dropping support from PS, and yet are also claiming that there is no other way to compete with Sony in said console space. They can't have both ways - they can't be claiming they want their software to be available everywhere while also claiming they want to compete.Exclusivity is obvious for most things besides Call of Duty. Maybe a few other titles. MS is not a Sony charity. They're trying to compete against a dominant player.
To be fair, regulators made this scenario of excluding Nintendo from the console market.That long-running debate as far as how Nintendo relates to Xbox and PlayStation is officially over.
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The regulators for the most part seem to be behind Sony on this one. As long as Sony continues opposing the deal, the regulators will most probably never take MS' side."We haven't agreed a deal with Sony, but I hope we will."
Smith says he has an envelope in his pocket with the deal on paper.
That’s not how a deal works you twat. That’s just your terms that you hope Sony accept.
I'm here for the corporate memes
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I'm tired of explaining this to people who can't figure out what they're doing. MS obviously will have exclusives and is also expanding platforms. They're obviously making it sound as good as they can. Anyone thinking MS has no right to any exclusives is delusional.Yet they specifically said today that not only was the future of gaming cross-platform, we have folks saying the Nintendo/MS deals extends beyond ATVI and includes all of Xbox software. MS is claiming that this deal will not affect Sony's marketshare position and that they have no intention on dropping support from PS, and yet are also claiming that there is no other way to compete with Sony in said console space. They can't have both ways - they can't be claiming they want their software to be available everywhere while also claiming they want to compete.
We need more corporate people to engage in console wars. this is great
To be fair, regulators made this scenario of excluding Nintendo from the console market.