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MS lashing out at the CMA and the UK governement is the worst PR stunt I have seen in years...The arrogance displayed here is outstanding... 😐

According to Brad Sams, the blocking of Microsoft acquiring Activision was the darkest day in UK history since the Nazi’s bombed England in WW2

And I wish what I said above was just a joke, but that’s actually what he suggested
 
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Varteras

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According to Brad Sams, the blocking of Microsoft acquiring Activision was the darkest day in UK history since the Nazi’s bombed England in WW2

And I wish what I said above was just a joke, but that’s actually what he suggested

I THINK he said it was "the darkest day in OUR four decades in Britain".

That being said, both Microsoft and Activision have tried to paint a doom and gloom scenario for Brits
 
What ever do you mean? Are they preoccupied with other things? What could possibly be more urgent than Microsoft buying Activision?

That conflict does affect me and hopefully it never gets to a point where I become a part of it.

Ukraine isn't a regulator that Microsoft is looking for approval from because if they block it the deal can still pass easily. The other regulators like the EC, CMA or the FTC are bigger concerns for them. Less the FTC than the other 2 but they can still cause issues.

And ironically, Microsoft is the market leader in the UK cloud gaming market 😄 And now Microsoft and Xbox fanboys want the CMA to reverse their decision, protecting the "market leader." lol

Really don't like how people are trying to pin Sony on this even though the CMA tosses their console market argument out the window. Sony failed to achieve a block based on the arguments they made to the CMA.
 

Varteras

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Really don't like how people are trying to pin Sony on this even though the CMA tosses their console market argument out the window. Sony failed to achieve a block based on the arguments they made to the CMA.

But they mentioned the cloud! THEY MENTIONED THE CLOUD!

 

POKEYCLYDE

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A Tale of Two Tickers

Interesting. Probably because while certain Microsoft division's were down, overall revenue was up by 9% for the quarter. (I think)

And up until the CMA's decision, it was looking likely that the deal would pass, making Activision's share price higher than it should be (despite their earnings being impressive).
 
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According to Brad Sams, the blocking of Microsoft acquiring Activision was the darkest day in UK history since the Nazi’s bombed England in WW2

And I wish what I said above was just a joke, but that’s actually what he suggested

Man this hyperbole is pretty shit to read.

1. He didn't say the UK darkest day, he said MS history in the UK e.g. biggest issue MS has had in the UK in their 4 decades of operating business there.

2. WW2 was 80 years ago, double what you're suggesting, not Brad Smith.

But hey thanks for making GAF look like hyperbolic gaming morons for yet another gotchya moment.

Pathetic and disgusting at the same time.
 
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Banjo64

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"Phil Spencer held meeting this morning with Xbox staff & told them that Activision would have sped up Microsoft's gaming plans, but they would continue to move ahead, even if without Activision."

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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I think they may pull the plug on this imminently now, I believed they would appeal but with the tone setting happening now I wouldn’t be surprised if it collapses within days.

Happy days.
 

zapper

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with this information i understand why the ftc would want to look into the deal documents, all these providers that microsoft has signed contracts with do not exist, they are just a temporary showcase for microsoft services and to take advantage of the acquisition today which will never be and will become competitors in cloud gaming.

nvidia just agreed with microsoft from the beginning, they pretended to complain first trying to screw the regulators (kind of like i think nintendo did)
 
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with this information i understand why the ftc would want to look into the deal documents, all these providers that microsoft has signed contracts with do not exist, they are just a temporary showcase for microsoft services and to take advantage of the acquisition today which will never be and will become competitors in cloud gaming.

nvidia just agreed with microsoft from the beginning, they pretended to complain first trying to screw the regulators (kind of like i think nintendo did)


And yet we have ABK confirming Sony were offered a better deal than what they were currently on. This is a different deal for a different segment. nVidia also signed a 10 year deal as did others.

If it was true across the board, which it ain't, then we'd have the assumption this tweet is jumping to.

FFS, does no one fact check anymore.
 

fermcr

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I'm curious to see what's going to happen with the FTC and EU. If they don't don't approve the sale, Microsoft should just forget about it and move on.
There are other developers out there...
 

POKEYCLYDE

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with this information i understand why the ftc would want to look into the deal documents, all these providers that microsoft has signed contracts with do not exist, they are just a temporary showcase for microsoft services and to take advantage of the acquisition today which will never be and will become competitors in cloud gaming.

nvidia just agreed with microsoft from the beginning, they pretended to complain first trying to screw the regulators (kind of like i think nintendo did)

You guys and your conspiracies.
 

PaintTinJr

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I'm curious to see what's going to happen with the FTC and EU. If they don't don't approve the sale, Microsoft should just forget about it and move on.
There are other developers out there...
AFAIK, someone said the appeal window is just 4 weeks for Microsoft to apply to the CAT, and given an appeal attempt is likely to be denied - as there is no grounds for an appeal against the CAT's high bar - the CMA result should be final - and the deal dead even in theory - before the EC or FTC have to complete anything.

I'm not sure if it has been discussed as yet, but the CMA process uses far wider and deeper mechanisms - via a full market analysis - than the normal market survey done by the EC and FTC, so the timings - going by what is written on the CMA website for Martin's 2019 speech about timing with other regulators - will have intentionally been aligned, and the EC and FTC will almost certainly be reading the market analysis of the CMA to bolster their understanding of the merger in their own markets, to focus on data points they specifically need from their own market to make the same or different conclusions IMO.
 

Calverz

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According to Brad Sams, the blocking of Microsoft acquiring Activision was the darkest day in UK history since the Nazi’s bombed England in WW2

And I wish what I said above was just a joke, but that’s actually what he suggested
He actually said the darkest day, in Microsoft’s history in Britain.
 

Topher

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Man this hyperbole is pretty shit to read.

1. He didn't say the UK darkest day, he said MS history in the UK e.g. biggest issue MS has had in the UK in their 4 decades of operating business there.

2. WW2 was 80 years ago, double what you're suggesting, not Brad Smith.

But hey thanks for making GAF look like hyperbolic gaming morons for yet another gotchya moment.

Pathetic and disgusting at the same time.

Eh….
I THINK he said it was "the darkest day in OUR four decades in Britain".

That being said, both Microsoft and Activision have tried to paint a doom and gloom scenario for Brits

Hmm my bad

Still, melodramatic
 
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That tidbit about the streaming companies getting the game but none of the revenue from sales, MTX etc is pretty damning. Those companies would be treated as an extension of Microsoft and not be competitors. In that scenario Microsoft hold all the cards and after their 10 years can do whatever they like while surely having grown their share of the market.

This is dead if that doesn’t change.
 

DJ12

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That tidbit about the streaming companies getting the game but none of the revenue from sales, MTX etc is pretty damning. Those companies would be treated as an extension of Microsoft and not be competitors. In that scenario Microsoft hold all the cards and after their 10 years can do whatever they like while surely having grown their share of the market.

This is dead if that doesn’t change.
It's dead unless ms can prove the CMA interpreted the data they had irrationally.

New data is irrelevant. They had the chance for remedies. These PR 10 year deals were MSs attempts to remedy and they are clearly utter garbage that these companies just signed so they can stay relevant if MS did buy Activision.

The only benefit for them with this is not being forced out of business for 10 year due to lack of content everyone else who signed these shitty deals has.

Luckily for everyone, the CMA saw right through this bullshit.
 
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quest

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That tidbit about the streaming companies getting the game but none of the revenue from sales, MTX etc is pretty damning. Those companies would be treated as an extension of Microsoft and not be competitors. In that scenario Microsoft hold all the cards and after their 10 years can do whatever they like while surely having grown their share of the market.

This is dead if that doesn’t change.
Damning lol you expect Microsoft or any company to give away its work. So the big bad dominant cloud player has 5k concurrent user capacity. So with that kind of volume whats better free games with no dlc money or 10 million for a couple of games like stadia paid capcom for 2 re games? Game like red fall no dlc they get it for free what a shitty deal. If this waa so bad no one would sign the deal or be pissed its gone.
 

Banjo64

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That tidbit about the streaming companies getting the game but none of the revenue from sales, MTX etc is pretty damning. Those companies would be treated as an extension of Microsoft and not be competitors. In that scenario Microsoft hold all the cards and after their 10 years can do whatever they like while surely having grown their share of the market.

This is dead if that doesn’t change.
The deadline for remedies is over in the UK, so they can’t amend things now.
 
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