Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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Astray said:
Assuming you are talking about present value of your stocks, then no wonder you are screaming.

I'd be screaming too if I lost over $1800 in two days on console war bullshit.
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I don't even want to know what's going on with this guys ABK investment:

SenjutsuSage said:
I'm so confident I put $40,000 in Activision Stock. :)
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SenjutsuSage said:
Yes, I've been honest about this. I have well over $8k invested in this,
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SenjutsuSage said:
First, I have over $15k in activision stock. So that's the first part.
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SenjutsuSage said:
I guess we'll just have to see, won't we? In my opinion it all comes down to what the EU does. If they're against then you're probably right. Outside of that. Till then saved.

It's the same british solicitors telling them now to appeal. You seem to be assigning a lot of brilliance to the very same body whose math errors and other mistakes led to an embarrassing reversal of everything they had said over the console SLC. There are key evidentiary problems with what they arrived at currently. It actually lacked much of the analysis they did for console gaming, and they made many of the same errors but worse, believe it or not. The CMA ran out of time and their pride wouldn't allow them to give Microsoft time to work it out. Microsoft also made some boneheaded mistakes in their remedies that are also their fault for not eliminating those as possible excuses the CMA could use.

You think Microsoft has no chance with its appeal? You're about to find out just how wrong you are, if something doesn't change before any actual appeal goes through. And no, I'm not suggesting the UK government overturn them. The CMA all on its own may realize its flaws as they once did before in this same decision. A potential EU approval, if it happens that way, will strengthen Microsoft's argument.

And, as you say, the CMA "slimmed the decision down." What exactly makes you think Microsoft might not contemplate a scenario where they won't allow the UK to kill their deal globally?

A lot of people have suggested a lot of things Microsoft would never do regarding the FTC, and would never do regarding the CMA. Guess what? Microsoft is doing them all even after the decisions. People better start contemplating a very real scenario where Microsoft legally constructs a framework where they just decide to not place Activision Blizzard games on xbox cloud at all in the UK. That's the ONLY problem they have with the deal in the UK, correct? I don't think Microsoft has a problem with just never putting Activision games on its cloud service in the UK. And before people tell me its impossible. No, it isn't. It's already done in different industries. There is a legal framework for it that exists in UK law.
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The solicitors are most definitely not telling them to appeal, that is their idiot international legal team that don't realise they have been well and truly kippered - that's a British expression if you didn't know because we have a world's worth of territorial waters and are a sea faring fishing nation.

At this point it just sounds like you are talking up the possibility to wait out the ATVI share price drop and mitigate your losses when selling at a recovery price, because if you understood the procedure in the UK, you most definitely wouldn't have written any of that delusional post.
 
Three said:
I don't even want to know what's going on with this guys ABK investment:
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Poor guy. He seems to be suffering from....

lies liar GIF by The Maury Show
 
Three said:
I don't even want to know what's going on with this guys ABK investment:
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I'm really getting similar vibes from someone I knew on the VGChartz forum 10 years ago. Dude had everyone convinced he was a developer who had worked at FromSoft. Claimed he moved to Japan, got married, and had 3 kids. Said he started his own studio called Martian Extreme Gaming. Fast forward a year later and he admitted to being a total fraud. Was actually a no-lifer, living in his grandma's basement.
 
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James Sawyer Ford said:
Can Activision back out after the summer and collect $3B or do they have to stay in the fight with appeals?
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They both have to demonstrate willingness to do everything they can to get the deal through up until the deadline.

After that point all bets are off. Both would need to agree to an extension of that's the route they want to take (which would currently involve court cases in both the UK and US) and even still shareholders of both comapies would also need to approve the extension.

So yeh, if they wish to extend, this is likely going to late 2024/early 2025.

3000 pages anyone?
 
GHG said:
It's worse, this is a trade, not an investment. The time horizon for a high probability of profitability is much tighter as a result.

He has zero idea what he's got himself into and how the mechanics of a trade like this works.

To make matters worse, in the high interest environment we're in at the moment he would have been far better off putting that money into bonds or even in a bank for the duration of time that his money has been tied up.
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Never gamble on the teams you root for. Clouds your judgement.
 
SenjutsuSage said:
I guess we'll just have to see, won't we? In my opinion it all comes down to what the EU does. If they're against then you're probably right. Outside of that. Till then saved.

It's the same british solicitors telling them now to appeal. You seem to be assigning a lot of brilliance to the very same body whose math errors and other mistakes led to an embarrassing reversal of everything they had said over the console SLC. There are key evidentiary problems with what they arrived at currently. It actually lacked much of the analysis they did for console gaming, and they made many of the same errors but worse, believe it or not. The CMA ran out of time and their pride wouldn't allow them to give Microsoft time to work it out. Microsoft also made some boneheaded mistakes in their remedies that are also their fault for not eliminating those as possible excuses the CMA could use.

You think Microsoft has no chance with its appeal? You're about to find out just how wrong you are, if something doesn't change before any actual appeal goes through. And no, I'm not suggesting the UK government overturn them. The CMA all on its own may realize its flaws as they once did before in this same decision. A potential EU approval, if it happens that way, will strengthen Microsoft's argument.

And, as you say, the CMA "slimmed the decision down." What exactly makes you think Microsoft might not contemplate a scenario where they won't allow the UK to kill their deal globally?

A lot of people have suggested a lot of things Microsoft would never do regarding the FTC, and would never do regarding the CMA. Guess what? Microsoft is doing them all even after the decisions. People better start contemplating a very real scenario where Microsoft legally constructs a framework where they just decide to not place Activision Blizzard games on xbox cloud at all in the UK. That's the ONLY problem they have with the deal in the UK, correct? I don't think Microsoft has a problem with just never putting Activision games on its cloud service in the UK. And before people tell me its impossible. No, it isn't. It's already done in different industries. There is a legal framework for it that exists in UK law.
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Oh jesus we are back to ms doing whatever they want in regards to the UK like they are above the law.
 
Dick Jones said:
I believe they can back out in July where MS and ABK can both reevaluate whether they want to continue. If they reach the deadline ABK get 3bn if the deal falls.
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Not necessarily, there are a few areas in which Microsoft will have grounds to argue certain members of the Activision team working on this have taken actions that are against the best interests of this deal.

Even if certain tweets are now deleted, they can't be undone.
 
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GHG said:
Not necessarily, there are a few areas in which Microsoft will have grounds to argue certain members of the Activision team working on this have taken actions that are against the best interests of this deal.

Even if certain tweets are now deleted, they can't be undone.
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Lulu rn

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GHG said:
They both have to demonstrate willingness to do everything they can to get the deal through up until the deadline.

After that point all bets are off. Both would need to agree to an extension of that's the route they want to take (which would currently involve court cases in both the UK and US) and even still shareholders of both comapies would also need to approve the extension.

So yeh, if they wish to extend, this is likely going to late 2024/early 2025.

3000 pages anyone?
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No more pages please
 
GHG said:
Not necessarily, there are a few areas in which Microsoft will have grounds to argue certain members of the Activision team working on this have taken actions that are against the best interests of this deal.

Even if certain tweets are now deleted, they can't be undone.
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It's Lulu's fault if this deal failed, no 3 billions for you :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

Imo they'll pay but they will agree in private to consider that an investement in marketing rights of some future titles. Unless this isn't legally possible.
 
Elios83 said:
It's Lulu's fault if this deal failed, no 3 billions for you :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

Imo they'll pay but they will agree in private to consider that an investement in marketing rights of some future titles. Unless this isn't legally possible.
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Luly can set up an OnlyFans with her great Xbox support to cover the 3 billion. However, those Xbox fans might wait until her clips make it to Gamepass.
 
PaintTinJr said:
In your defence you were still banned when I post this multiple times - while being emojied by johnjohn, catlady et al

https://www.clearyantitrustwatch.co...threshold-for-review-of-cma-merger-decisions/

Please read that article in full (the domain and url should give you a hint) and then reply how they will possibly fight. It is completely done, because the CMA slimmed the decision down so an arrogant $2T company of 30years of suspected anti-trust would have no means to litigate.

As we speak Microsoft are probably throwing things at their very expensive British solicitors, with the solicitors telling them - as advocates of the British courts - there are no options left, and that they - personally as solicitors - could face consequence from the Uk bar for appealing without a valid legal reason.
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It's interesting how this has all gone as time has moved along don't you think?

There was a time, not so long ago, when the CMA were considered the big stumbling block precisely because they cannot be effectively appealed against.

Then the CMA removed the console SLC, and the deal was in the eyes of some (many?), guaranteed since see point (1) - this deal would be approved world wide according to that logic because the only authority who could genuinely block it had stepped aside.... or so we were told.

And now the CMA have prohibited the acquisition yet it is apparently child's play to overturn the decision...

Spin spin and spin...

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poppabk said:
That they really want the deal to go through.
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That isn't a good reason for them though. If they appeal it has to be alot more than they just want the deal to go through. They need to prove the CMA was incorrect in their decision. But I've read that it's difficult to get the CMA to change a verdict.
 
MasterCornholio said:
That isn't a good reason for them though. If they appeal it has to be alot more than they just want the deal to go through. They need to prove the CMA was incorrect in their decision. But I've read that it's difficult to get the CMA to change a verdict.
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I think he's joking bud (y)
 
GHG said:
Not necessarily, there are a few areas in which Microsoft will have grounds to argue certain members of the Activision team working on this have taken actions that are against the best interests of this deal.

Even if certain tweets are now deleted, they can't be undone.
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This will be a legal battle between Activision and Microsoft.

The issue here is, if this deal gets called off, Activision could land in a situation where they pissed off their biggest console customer (which was already looking for ways to reduce their reliance on them), while also suing the biggest immediate alternative to said biggest customer. What would they do then?
 
Astray said:
This will be a legal battle between Activision and Microsoft.

The issue here is, if this deal gets called off, Activision could land in a situation where they pissed off their biggest console customer (which was already looking for ways to reduce their reliance on them), while also suing the biggest immediate alternative to said biggest customer. What would they do then?
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