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Axios (Stephen Totilo) Lawyers: Email proves Microsoft’s ABK bid is designed to elimination (Update: MS claims it was a "thought experiment")

splattered

Member
Well at some point prior to 2018 they had this revelation that if they spend a shitton of money then they could be successful at gaming. They started small with Ninja Theory/Inxile/Playground/etc and then ticked up slightly to Obsidian and then a big buy with Bethesda and now potentially the $69 billion ABK behemoth acquisition. So yeah, the light obviously came on and it seems someone said "let's use this fuck you money". The timing coincides perfect with Matt Booty's stated intention of running Sony out of gaming.

Yeah they probably started reading NeoGaf a few years ago and saw all the "LOL no way Microsoft is going to give Xbox division access to the company war chest to buy up big publishers, you guys are dreaming!" stopped dead in their tracks and said OH FUCK why didn't WE think of that?! As usual it's all Gaf's fault :/
 

FlyyGOD

Member
It feels like everyday more and more bad news is coming out about Xbox.

  1. Redfall flops
  2. Starfield is 30 FPS on Series X
  3. The Series S is the main console and the Series X was suppose to be the mid-gen refresh
  4. Xbox strategically planned to put PlayStation out of business all along with the Activision purchase

Like wtf is going on .....
Didn't Sony put Sega out of the console business? Selective outrage.
 
You are disingenuously looking at only the short term. Taking away cod will have disastrous consequences for sony, massively increase xbox and gamepass sales, and guarantee exponential revenue increase from ALL future games. That's how market share works. having a majority of gaming population on your platform is always far more profitable than multiplatform sales of a single aaa title. Of course you would conveniently overlook that fact.

It doesn’t guarantee any exponential revenue increase. You’re assuming every player on PlayStation will jump to Xbox and that’s just not reality. Why hasn’t MS done this with Minecraft, if it’s such a guaranteed revenue boost? Because it isn’t.

And yeah we all know it’s devastating to Sony, that’s why they’re fighting it so hard. Even the possibility of losing all of that free CoD money scares the shit out of them.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Psygnosis did not have the impact that modern day publishers have. Not even close. Sony's acquisition of them didn't even impact the industry the way Zenimax did. And that was a smaller Western publisher compared to Ubisoft, T2, EA, and ABK. Sony's singular purchase of a publisher, 30 years ago, was meant to help solidify their entry into the market. Giving them a good foundation against multiple established competitors. None of whom experienced big negative consequences of the acquisition. Especially since Psygnosis continued making games for rival platforms for years. That is perfectly fine. It was about ease of entry. Not paid-for dominance.

Many games that were exclusive to PlayStation early on were that way because they were given a way out from Nintendo's predatory practices and because Sega fucked up the launch of Saturn. Making Sony a default choice, by the fault of their competitors. Sony went on to have great relationships with those companies that extended into the next generation. Many of their high profile exclusives being third-party Japanese games. But that kind of exclusivity did not last. Even during the PS2 era, companies began releasing their games elsewhere. The Metal Gear Solid remake released only on Gamecube. Resident Evil 4 also released on Gamecube well before a PS2 version. GTA and MGS games started releasing on Xbox. They would eventually lose Final Fantasy and Tekken. By the PS3 days, most franchises that had deals with PlayStation like that were largely gone.

You know what Sony didn't do? Buy all those major companies to control them and ensure they can never do anything Sony doesn't let them do. Instead, they focused on building up their first-party through smaller companies that they built relationships with. To no real direct detriment to competitors at the time. Moneyhat exclusivity has been the game for a long time. Every company engages in it. What every company does not engage in is acquiring massive publishers that have a calamitous consequence for competitors.

SF5 wouldn't have existed when it did without Sony having given Capcom the money to do so at a time when they were in a bad financial way. What did Sony not do? Take advantage and buy them out. When Squaresoft wanted to merge with Enix but were having financial difficulties after their Final Fantasy movie failed, Sony bought stock in them to give them a cash injection and enough stability to finish their games, convince Enix they were worth it, and complete the merger. What did Sony not do? Deny helping them and buy them out instead. They even sold off their shares later, making good on their word.

So a couple Final Fantasy games went exclusive. And? The history those two companies have is enough for that to not be a surprise. What about the time Xbox paid to have a Star Wars game exclusive to them? Or when they landed a one-year timed exclusive deal for a Tomb Raider sequel? Or when they made PlayStation Call of Duty players wait for new maps? Or paid to have Dead Rising 3 exclusive? Helped fund Ryse? What about the Ori games? Sorry, but only a desperate fanboy would point to moneyhat exclusives from a rival platform while conveniently ignoring the number of times all platform holders have done that. That is, and always will be, a whole other beast from outright buying the companies making those games and forever being the arbiter of their fate and availability.

Try as you might, there is no realistic way to compare anything Sony has done to what Microsoft is doing today. The sad part is, what Microsoft is doing may force their hand and behave like them, just to ensure they don't buy the industry from underneath them. The Xbox 360 itself, nevermind what Switch has accomplished, absolutely proved that you can compete without having to buy large chunks of the industry. Sadly, if Microsoft is allowed their way, that WILL be the only way you can compete. Assuming they leave anything for anyone else if they're unchecked. The reality is, an e-mail talking about eliminating Sony right before Microsoft tried to buy two major publishers, one of which is undergoing regulatory scrutiny the likes of which the industry has never seen. Both at values and market shares companies like Psygnosis, in the past, would have had a stroke trying to process.

Your argument is the same as so many other #SonyToo attempts. No real substance. Just finger pointing with no context, no parsing of scale, and no nuance.

Its worth noting that Psygnosis at the time of the buyout were not in great shape either.

Their success was built off the back of Amiga and ST computers, platforms that were being outcompeted globally by the 16-bit consoles from Sega and Nintendo. Their initial foray into that market was with Wiz n' Liz and Puggsy both of which flopped hard. Nobody made any money from them despite them (Puggsy especially) reviewing well.

What's even more important is to understand that Psygnosis product was largely sourced from bedroom coders who made handshake deals with Ian Hetherington. The advances they got were used to be able to hire extra people -often friends and acquanitainces- to help do the work.

DMA design, Reflections, Traveller's Tales and Bizarre Creations all started out like this, and although they subsequently grew at different rates their trajectories were fundamentally the same. By 1993 when Sony bought the company all these teams were taking their first steps away from Amiga & ST, something that was only possible because they were allowed access to dev-kits as opposed to simply using shop-bought consumer hardware.

Comparing Sony buying this back then, to these recent mega-corporate acquisitions is a joke.
 

Topher

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And when that inevitably fails, you can be sure that Sony will be blamed for Microsoft deciding to bet the house and losing entirely, all because they just couldn't figure out how to operate in a traditional gaming industry.

No, it's GAF's fault...

Yeah they probably started reading NeoGaf a few years ago and saw all the "LOL no way Microsoft is going to give Xbox division access to the company war chest to buy up big publishers, you guys are dreaming!" stopped dead in their tracks and said OH FUCK why didn't WE think of that?! As usual it's all Gaf's fault :/

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Banjo64

cumsessed
Well at some point prior to 2018 they had this revelation that if they spend a shitton of money then they could be successful at gaming. They started small with Ninja Theory/Inxile/Playground/etc and then ticked up slightly to Obsidian and then a big buy with Bethesda and now potentially the $69 billion ABK behemoth acquisition. So yeah, the light obviously came on and it seems someone said "let's use this fuck you money". The timing coincides perfect with Matt Booty's stated intention of running Sony out of gaming.
I think this moment was probably during Phil’s pitch to Nadella. We’re either in or out, but if we’re in we have to be all in.

I think it was at this point that Phil had already conceptualised Game Pass and the idea of acquiring studios/publishers to starve Sony of revenue and content. And I think it was that plan that convinced Nadella.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
I think this moment was probably during Phil’s pitch to Nadella. We’re either in or out, but if we’re in we have to be all in.

I think it was at this point that Phil had already conceptualised Game Pass and the idea of acquiring studios/publishers to starve Sony of revenue and content. And I think it was that plan that convinced Nadella.

Yeah, I think so. I also think that was the point that Phil Spencer pointed to cloud being Microsoft's endgame for Xbox. Speaking to the inner cloud engineer of Satya Nadella.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I mean, for fuck's sake, just look back through their releases prior to 1993 and tell me with a straight face they were some big force in gaming. Outside of Lemmings, every game they were really known for happened AFTER Sony bought them. I'm sure Terrorpods and Ballistix were big industry shakers 4 to 6 years before the purchase.
For real. I bet half these people using this twitter/discord PR distraction weren't even born or old enough yet, nor ever heard of them or half their games.
 

graywolf323

Member
Plus it's not like anyone was realistically going to the shop like:

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"oh shit Wipeout isn't on N64... guess I better buy a Playstation"
Well those people were in luck because psygnosis did release Wipeout on the N64 anyway

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which just makes the comparison even sillier from those are trying to SonyToo™ this, yet Elder Scrolls VI won’t be on PlayStation
For real. I bet half these people using this twitter/discord PR distraction weren't even born or old enough yet, nor ever heard of them or half their games.
which is a shame really, since they’d clearly enjoy Lemmings 😛
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Fabieter

Member
There's only 20 odd years of paying to keep big AAA games off other platforms, but I get it..it's not buying a publisher so it doesnt count.

I'm looking forward to playing FF XVI on my PC tomorrow.

I mean some make timed exclusives, some moneyhat game fully, some buy publishers. But one specific company is doing all shit combined and did so the last two decades.

One of ms biggest game started as a moneyhat *cough* gears of war*cough*
 

Zoej

Member
We really, truly, and categorically saying that Microsoft, a trillion dollar company that is kne of the largest in the world has no roadmap/strategic planning set for a certain number of years? What was initiated in 2017/18/19 could only be bearing fruit now or maybe in the next few years.

You can’t be dense and think otherwise.

These companies, Sony included, have laid out plans that span a period of at least 5 years to achieve something based on an internal roadmap.

The shilling is too much.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
We really, truly, and categorically saying that Microsoft, a trillion dollar company that is kne of the largest in the world has no roadmap/strategic planning set for a certain number of years? What was initiated in 2017/18/19 could only be bearing fruit now or maybe in the next few years.

You can’t be dense and think otherwise.

These companies, Sony included, have laid out plans that span a period of at least 5 years to achieve something based on an internal roadmap.

The shilling is too much.
Well you see here, a timeline in the span of less than 18 hours:

- "LOL gamer lawsuit lawyers"

- "The the email isn't real"

- Then it shifted to it being real, but the content probably isn't what was said, "lol black bars" (even tho lawyers see the unredacted content)

- Then "LOL 2019 proves this isn't true" (I know, retarted)

- A few shill "journalists" backpedal not to lose their grift from said company, "see it was fake" (appeal to the most pathetic of authority)

- To now it was admitted to being real by MS, but just a "thought experiment bros"

- Abandon thread, shift change

Yes, intellectually dishonest derps were carrying that cognitively bankrupt water.
 
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Vognerful

Member
You know there are regulations against this right? That's monopolistic behaviour.

I get having an attachment to a brand, I have an attachment to Sony (and Nintendo to a much lesser degree), but I honestly can't believe that plastic boxes make people irrational enough to support this statement: "monopolistic practices are ok as long as it's MS doing them".
I can't believe you read this comment and concluded the opposite of what I am saying and thinking "oh yes this guy is defending Xbox!" But I don't think reading comprehension is one of neoGAF skills.

I am showing you how even if Microsoft did not go for direct consolidation in the market, they can still fuck everyone else if the flex their money.

I also want to know what rules or regulations by FTC if they have any against practices such as hiring employees from your competitor or locking 3rd party content for a year.
 

tr1p1ex

Member
did anyone think MSFT buying up all 3rd party studios was done for any reason besides trying to put a competitor out of business? I mean that is basically the goal of every business. We just want it done through merit not through buying your way there.
 
Well you see here, a timeline in the span of less than 18 hours:

- "LOL gamer lawsuit lawyers"

- "The the email isn't real"

- Then it shifted to it being real, but the content probably isn't what was said, "lol black bars" (even tho lawyers see the unredacted content)

- Then "LOL 2019 proves this isn't true" (I know, retarted)

- A few shill "journalists" backpedal not to lose their grift from said company, "see it was fake" (appeal to the most pathetic of authority)

- To now it was admitted to being real by MS, but just a "thought experiment bros"

- Abandon thread, shift change

Yes, intellectually dishonest derps were carrying that cognitively bankrupt water.

You're doing the Lord's work, Deep.
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Azurro

Banned
I can't believe you read this comment and concluded the opposite of what I am saying and thinking "oh yes this guy is defending Xbox!" But I don't think reading comprehension is one of neoGAF skills.

I am showing you how even if Microsoft did not go for direct consolidation in the market, they can still fuck everyone else if the flex their money.

I also want to know what rules or regulations by FTC if they have any against practices such as hiring employees from your competitor or locking 3rd party content for a year.

Don't be obtuse, of course you can invest money from the company when trying to enter a sector, however you can't just dump your profit margins to make the market hostile to existing entities, nor can you leverage other parts of the company to buy out entire industries. They can't just "flex their money", even if you think they should be able to. That's the entire reason these purchases are up for review by regulatory bodies such as the CMA or FTC, to prevent monopolistic practices.

Again, is your plastic box that important that monopolistic practices are ok for MS? I'd say that if MS wants to become a bigger force in gaming, they should probably start making great games instead of this ridiculous path.
 

Vognerful

Member
Don't be obtuse, of course you can invest money from the company when trying to enter a sector, however you can't just dump your profit margins to make the market hostile to existing entities, nor can you leverage other parts of the company to buy out entire industries. They can't just "flex their money", even if you think they should be able to. That's the entire reason these purchases are up for review by regulatory bodies such as the CMA or FTC, to prevent monopolistic practices.

Again, is your plastic box that important that monopolistic practices are ok for MS? I'd say that if MS wants to become a bigger force in gaming, they should probably start making great games instead of this ridiculous path.
Please go back to my previous comments, take breath and the read again.

Please point your finger which statement sounds like I am defending Microsoft right to carry out monopoly practices.

I also give 2 examples were you don't have to buy any other company, but rather make timed exclusives offers with major AAA games, or hire the top talent from Sony studios. What regulations would come in and stop those specific actions? Because the CMA unfortunately made their judgement on the cloud market, not the current console market.

I am arguing, for tenth time now, that the existence of Microsoft in the gaming market is itself dangerous because you have to always level the fields between it and other companies when they have to carry out the same action.


Even in your argument of "making games", what stop them from hiring all the top talent in the market and starving competition from top tier developers? How would you stop that?

I have a PC and Nintendo, I am not peasant .
 

graywolf323

Member
Don't be obtuse, of course you can invest money from the company when trying to enter a sector, however you can't just dump your profit margins to make the market hostile to existing entities, nor can you leverage other parts of the company to buy out entire industries. They can't just "flex their money", even if you think they should be able to. That's the entire reason these purchases are up for review by regulatory bodies such as the CMA or FTC, to prevent monopolistic practices.

Again, is your plastic box that important that monopolistic practices are ok for MS? I'd say that if MS wants to become a bigger force in gaming, they should probably start making great games instead of this ridiculous path.
yep, that’s why the comparison to Psygnosis is so dumb

if Microsoft had tried to do some of this back in ~2000 when they were preparing to enter the industry people wouldn’t have complained as much (like how they bought Bungie and acquired Rare from Nintendo, etc.)

instead they’re doing it after 20+ years of failure while trying to make the argument that because they suck so bad at this they should be allowed to instead buy their way to a monopoly 🤨
 

FlyyGOD

Member
Sega put Sega out of the console business, as has been exhaustively detailed elsewhere in previous pages. Sega made shitty business decisions, released too much hardware in too short a period of time, fucked over distributors and publishers, and shot themselves in their own ass.
I'm sure Sony making deals that didn't allow 3rd parties to make games on Dreamcast helped put Sega outta business.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I'm sure Sony making deals that didn't allow 3rd parties to make games on Dreamcast helped put Sega outta business.
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The Dreamcast was discontinued before Sony even had those third party bangers. It was dated hardware with less features than the competitors at the time.
 
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hyperbertha

Member
It doesn’t guarantee any exponential revenue increase. You’re assuming every player on PlayStation will jump to Xbox and that’s just not reality. Why hasn’t MS done this with Minecraft, if it’s such a guaranteed revenue boost? Because it isn’t.

And yeah we all know it’s devastating to Sony, that’s why they’re fighting it so hard. Even the possibility of losing all of that free CoD money scares the shit out of them.
Minecraft says nothing because most people play it in mobile and pc. It's also not the game people buy ps5 for. Cod is a system seller for sony. And business decisions aren't conducted based on 100 percent guarantees. It's all business sense. its pretty reasonable to assume making a system seller exclusive on your platform will poach a significant portion of the playerbase from the enemy. It's not rocket science. It may not kill sony outright, but it will give ms such a stranglehold in the market that they could easily kill sony over the long term with another key acquisition. Capcom could do it.
 
Minecraft says nothing because most people play it in mobile and pc. It's also not the game people buy ps5 for. Cod is a system seller for sony. And business decisions aren't conducted based on 100 percent guarantees. It's all business sense. its pretty reasonable to assume making a system seller exclusive on your platform will poach a significant portion of the playerbase from the enemy. It's not rocket science. It may not kill sony outright, but it will give ms such a stranglehold in the market that they could easily kill sony over the long term with another key acquisition. Capcom could do it.

Cool, we can agree to disagree. I don’t think CoD is a system seller for PS5 and I don’t think a majority of players would jump ship to Xbox if it were exclusive. MS would lose out on a lot of revenue.

They can drive players to their system by putting the games into GamePass or adding other perks while also releasing the games everywhere else. Again, like Minecraft.
 

Sethbacca

Member
Cool, we can agree to disagree. I don’t think CoD is a system seller for PS5 and I don’t think a majority of players would jump ship to Xbox if it were exclusive. MS would lose out on a lot of revenue.

They can drive players to their system by putting the games into GamePass or adding other perks while also releasing the games everywhere else. Again, like Minecraft.
If Sony didn't have a modern SOCOM going before this attempt at acquisition started, they really should at this point just in case COD does go away. Gotta be able to offer an alternative. Sure they'll lose some people but most people will just stay on the system their friends are on.
 
If Sony didn't have a modern SOCOM going before this attempt at acquisition started, they really should at this point just in case COD does go away. Gotta be able to offer an alternative. Sure they'll lose some people but most people will just stay on the system their friends are on.

I see this sentiment often. SOCOM is not really a COD alternative. SOCOM was a 3rd person tactical MP shooter. COD is a run-and-gun FPS with kill streaks and all that other twitch-shooter BS they've added through the years.

If Sony funded a new entry in the SOCOM series that simply aped COD it would bomb, because SOCOM fans would fucking hate it, and COD fans wouldn't think it's not actually an alternative to COD.

If any publisher wants to provide a COD alternative on PS, then they need to make a new IP or buy a similar COD-like modern-day military shooter IP; and how many of those still exist that have any real IP clout?
 

John Wick

Member
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Anyway why is this news? Of course the purchase is made to put Sony out of business. Do we all think Sony signed a deal to keep FF16 off of Xbox just for shits and giggles?

The end game for all of these companies is to be #1.
Big difference between being successful and number one rather than trying to put a competitor out of business.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Big difference between being successful and number one rather than trying to put a competitor out of business.
That's not usually how Alphas think who make it to the tops of their perspective mountains

Not only do they want to win they want their competitors to die

zack snyder film GIF
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
That's not usually how Alphas think who make it to the tops of their perspective mountains

Not only do they want to win they want their competitors to die

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If they were alpha, they would have had the skills to get there without relying on beta bailouts.

Otherwise, they're just weak men stomping their feet, relying on that "warchest" to push their little man might, and weak men create hard times.

Food for thought.
 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
If they were alpha, they would have had the skills to get there without relying on beta bailouts.

Otherwise, they're just weak men stomping their feet, relying on that "warchest" to push their little man might, and weak men create hard times.

Food for thought.
Alphas usually don't care how they reach the summit as I can again go back to playing sports and watching guys inject steroids into their asses right in the clubhouse
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
And look at the hard times that were created with the fallout when it happened.
But again those people still don't care to this day about that as I know many who did do steroids

Many have health problems (and some have passed) yet not a single one will tell you they would have changed a thing

They may say differently in front of a camera but I don't know of a single one who would have played it differently as about any I have talked to say it was worth it
 
Wasn't Resident Evil Code Veronica a Dreamcast timed exclusive? I played RE 1-3 on PS and suddenly it's Dreamcast only. Resident Evil 4 rolls around sweet but it's Gamecube only wtf.

MS paid Epic for the Gears trilogy, they paid for Bioshock and Mass Effect. They paid for GTA IV DLC, Tomb Raider DLC, started the whole COD marketing thing.

When Uncharted 4 rolls out they ran to CD to pay for Rise of the Tomb Raider to be exclusive, what a tragic move that was. Also while bigging up previous money hatted DLC content on 360 like they have this rich and storied relationship with TR

People post on here like Deathloop was the start of it all or jump to PS1 era

Trying to get third party exclusive games is bad but at least the next game up is probably mutliplatform or up for negotiation and are mostly timed. Just buying up major third party companies is obscene and stops games appearing forever. It's simply buying up the third party market to starve the other console dry. Where do MS stop, they could buy EA, Ubisoft and stop even more games going to Playstation while people scream but Deathloop. It's an awful way to buy up the industry they failed in to be the only option left.

A healthy market is MS and Sony making games. Spend that 70 billion on making studios and talent. COD is coming to both consoles, Zenimax games were coming to both consoles, now they're not, not just one title but a whole series of major games that have been decades multiplatform.

Sony had poor market share in the US and UK with the PS3 and low selling games and were derided for Lair Heavenly Sword. They came back strong with their own games in response. MS claim they have to buy up major third party companies that permanently remove games from Playstation to compete. It's extremely anticompetitive.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
But again those people still don't care to this day about that as I know many who did do steroids

Many have health problems (and some have passed) yet not a single one will tell you they would have changed a thing

They may say differently in front of a camera but I don't know of a single one who would have played it differently as about any I have talked to say it was worth it
Oh I have no doubts. When there is a lot of money and fame on the line, people will live in the "quick recovery or injury prevention now" and not worry about the fallout or repercussions down the road. Almost a sociopath to themselves. Tragic, really.
 
Big difference between being successful and number one rather than trying to put a competitor out of business.

Not really, has Sony played nice with Xbox the last two generations even though they have dominated? No. They’re making more deals and locking up more content than ever. Why do people expect MS to play nice.

For years and years we heard about how MS doesn’t really care about Xbox because MA has this big war chest they could use at any time and now they’re using it and people are shocked and offended.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Oh I have no doubts. When there is a lot of money and fame on the line, people will live in the "quick recovery or injury prevention now" and not worry about the fallout or repercussions down the road. Almost a sociopath to themselves. Tragic, really.
I destroyed my first marriage, destroyed my body to the point where I can not throw a baseball today because my shoulder has so much scar tissue, my legs are done because of all of the running I did, I took pain killing shots just to get on the field instead of actually getting things fixed, for close to 20 years nothing else mattered to me but being at the stadium all for a ring

Now I did not take steroids because honestly I was afraid of what it was going to do to me but other than that I wouldn't have changed a thing for my avatar pic
 

Sethbacca

Member
Not really, has Sony played nice with Xbox the last two generations even though they have dominated? No. They’re making more deals and locking up more content than ever. Why do people expect MS to play nice.

For years and years we heard about how MS doesn’t really care about Xbox because MA has this big war chest they could use at any time and now they’re using it and people are shocked and offended.
Sounds like you don't understand the difference between competitive and anticompetitive behavior.

 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I destroyed my first marriage, destroyed my body to the point where I can not throw a baseball today because my shoulder has so much scar tissue, my legs are done because of all of the running I did, I took pain killing shots just to get on the field instead of actually getting things fixed, for close to 20 years nothing else mattered to me but being at the stadium all for a ring

Now I did not take steroids because honestly I was afraid of what it was going to do to me but other than that I wouldn't have changed a thing for my avatar pic
Thank you for your service. And no joke, bro, I don't mean that in a condescending way. Baseball is my all time favorite sport, it actually transcends "just a sport" to me. Now, I am not as fanatical as I used to be, barely watch it now compared to how I was. But that has more to do with the modern political injections and the like, than the beauty of one of God's perfectly designed games. I used to watch Ken Burns Baseball every spring training like a ritual, year in and year out.
 
Sounds like you don't understand the difference between competitive and anticompetitive behavior.


You don’t have to do anything anticompetitive to dominate your industry.
 

Sethbacca

Member
You don’t have to do anything anticompetitive to dominate your industry.
So would you say then, that admitting you've lost and are last place in your industry, then using the funds of perhaps one of the largest corporations in the world (that itself has a history of litigated anticompetitive practices) to buy out all of your competitors and leave only your failing business in it's place is competitive, or anticompetitive behavior?
 
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