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[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

It's one thing I haven't understood.... Minecraft also has no XSeries version. I do not understand how P. Spencer has not clarified such a thing.

Leave it to John to basically reduce it to a whataboutism. MS withholding a PS5 optimized version of Minecraft from PS5 out of spite does not immediately correlate to them having plans for an optimized version for Series X/S.

I mean just look at how they handled the Xbox port of Ghostwire Tokyo compared to PS5; for whatever reason, MS did not afford Zenimax/Tango the means of making that version at least as performant as the PS5 one, which ran better, had much better RT, and other benefits despite being older and on a platform MS does not own.

Is John even trying to use his brain with some of these tweets or just saying whatever he can to look like he's in MS's corner during this trail? DF fell off pretty hard these past few weeks :/

 

[xHunter]

Now this is some spin

Sony blocking MS from releasing games on their own platform confirmed. Heard it here first.

 

[Kvally]

I bet this guy talks this way all the damn time.

"Honey, you don't have any recollection of me asking you to buy peanut butter at the store, now do you?"

Hey now, I resemble that.

 

[BlueLyria]

It's probably a deliberate thing to maintain parity. Sony not giving them devkits (on time or at all) is probably holding back the RT patched version of Minecraft on modern consoles all round.

Wasn't RT minecraft canceled though?

 

[Mr Moose]

It's probably a deliberate thing to maintain parity. Sony not giving them devkits (on time or at all) is probably holding back the RT patched version of Minecraft on modern consoles all round.

Nah, PS4 didn't even get Bedrock edition until way after, they don't care about that.

 

[nikolino840]

No details are wrong. Derek is wrong.

Those were separate convos. I'm listening. Phil said "allow F76. don't allow Minecraft."

There's minecraft dungeon tho...but I don't remember if in the free games or in the subscription service

 

[Heisenberg007]

FTC defending this pretty badly, if I were the lawyer my points would be pretty clear:

1. MS is trying to buy the biggest games
2. Biggest games have an anchor effect (system sellers
3. MS wants to make those games exclusives to GP (emails, latest bethesda releases)
4. MS is currently dumping the competition with GP offering a price way below the cost
5. When MS is sucesfull at gaining market control, they will act like always (azure, o365) and pass the cost to consumer -> huge raise of GP price + less benefits.

The only way out of here is Valve trying to make a stand but I think they are still happy with their position. Sony just doesn't have the financial capability to try to fight this, they would be better off becoming a third party.

Those would be akin to accusations. FTC is currently establishing motivation and precedence.

 

[adamsapple]

Wasn't RT minecraft canceled though?

i got no idea if its been canceled officially, last thing I remember they just had a boiler plate "no plans at this time" or some such.

 

[GHG]

FTC defending this pretty badly, if I were the lawyer my points would be pretty clear:

1. MS is trying to buy the biggest games
2. Biggest games have an anchor effect (system sellers)
3. MS wants to make those games exclusives to GP (emails, latest bethesda releases)
4. MS is currently dumping the competition with GP offering a price way below the cost
5. When MS is sucesfull at gaining market control, they will act like always (azure, o365) and pass the cost to consumer -> huge raise of GP price + less benefits.

The only way out of here is Valve trying to make a stand but I think they are still happy with their position. Sony just doesn't have the financial capability to try to fight this, they would be better off becoming a third party.

Discovery phase my man.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I bet this guy talks this way all the damn time.

"Honey, you don't have any recollection of me asking you to buy peanut butter at the store, now do you?"

*heavy breathing and sweating* *climax*

"Was it good babe?"

"I don't remember, we have had many moments like this in the past."

 

[SirKicksalot]

MR SPENCER DO YOU REMEMBER A LITTLE MEETING IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 WHEN YOU PUT TWO SUGARS IN YOUR COFFEE???
...I have it with two sugars every time...
SO YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT SPECIFIC CUP OF COFFEE WHERE MR BOOTY WAS ALSO IN THE ROOM WITH YOU????

I should have been a lawyer, it's just like a being a troll but you're also paid.

 

[Jigsaah]

Wasn't RT minecraft canceled though?

You have to buy certain opackages or be on specific realms to play Mincraft with Raytracing. Costs money, which is DUMB.

 

[adamsapple]

FTC defending this pretty badly, if I were the lawyer my points would be pretty clear:

1. MS is trying to buy the biggest games
2. Biggest games have an anchor effect (system sellers)
3. MS wants to make those games exclusives to GP (emails, latest bethesda releases)
4. MS is currently dumping the competition with GP offering a price way below the cost
5. When MS is sucesfull at gaining market control, they will act like always (azure, o365) and pass the cost to consumer -> huge raise of GP price + less benefits.

The only way out of here is Valve trying to make a stand but I think they are still happy with their position. Sony just doesn't have the financial capability to try to fight this, they would be better off becoming a third party.

Proving full foreclosure when other major regulators have dismissed it, that is the hard part.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Just following up on what's been said on record already lol.

At least we can rule out that Minecraft has a dedicated SX version where no dedicated PS5 version exists.

You're crating fanboy FUD. Never go full Florian.

 

[Varteras]

I don't think I've seen so many narratives unravel in less than two days. Even the Heard/Depp trial had fewer revelations. Jesus Christ

 

[tryDEATH]

I don't remember

Obviously there are a few, but a majority of his answers leave MS lawyers with extremely good counters to argue FTC's narrative.

 

[Solidsnake_1]

oh my lord phill has dementia he doesnt remember anything

 

[Thirty7ven]

Hehe Phil Spencer saying he just wanted to make sure Zenimax games were on Xbox and PC

 

[BlueLyria]

You have to buy certain opackages or be on specific realms to play Mincraft with Raytracing. Costs money, which is DUMB.

Specifically on console we were talking about

 

[Jigsaah]

minecraft on PC is pretty stellar

 

[Tarnpanzer]

It is unless they have written evidence

Do u remember the content of every e-mail u sent out to others two years ago?

 

[jm89]

His memory is also on a case by case basis.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Proving full foreclosure when other major regulators have dismissed it, that is the hard part.

I don't think that's what the FTC have to actually prove. Just that MS could have motivating reasons to leverage acquired ABK content in anticompetitive ways.

Partial foreclosure could still be achieved via anticompetitive actions, which would be enough for the FTC here, IIRC.

 

[nani17]

What's this thread about I don't remember

 

[Jigsaah]

Specifically on console we were talking about

Oh I'm not sure about that, who plays on their Xbox nowadays. Was RT even announced for consoles? I don't know things, don't ask me things.

 

[adamsapple]

this spanish stream guy is very animated

 

[GHG]

I think Phil has an ESRAM chip in his brain.

 

[Rossco EZ]

What's this thread about I don't remember

liars and cheats

 

[Darsxx82]

4 hours of questioning and the MS lawyer still needs to be able to cross-examine P: Spencer. From then P. Spencer will need energy bars and aspirin to sleep...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Hehe Phil Spencer saying he just wanted to make sure Zenimax games were on Xbox and PC*

*Exclusively

 

[Shambala]

Caught him in a lie

 

[DForce]

"Phil is handling himself very well!"

Phil:

 

[Interfectum]

 

[T-Cake]

I think Phil has an ESRAM chip in his brain.

Clearly not enough memory.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Proving full foreclosure when other major regulators have dismissed it, that is the hard part.

Lie

Regulators have not dismissed foreclosure, they have said it can happen but it will hurt MS's bottom line and that they don't have a financial incentive to do so even if they might have a strategic incentive to do so. Even if they do, in the markets those regulators operate in, it was concluded that it wouldn't have a sufficiently significant impact on competition.

 

[Heisenberg007]

The laywer has repeated like 5 times. Phil refuses to answer. Wow.

 

[adamsapple]

Lie

Regulators have not dismissed foreclosure, they have said it can happen but it will hurt MS's bottom line and that they don't have a financial incentive to do so even if they might have a strategic incentive to do so. Even if they do, in the markets those regulators operate in, it was concluded that it wouldn't have a sufficiently significant impact on competition.

aka both CMA and EU have dismissed the concern of full disclosure on MS's part, for whatever reason. I don't know why that needs this much clarification.

 

[cebri.one]

Proving full foreclosure when other major regulators have dismissed it, that is the hard part.

Agreed. But it's so annoying seeing big companies repeat this again and again and money always wins. Not the only industry where this happens tho.

 

[Elios83]

Obviously there are a few, but a majority of his answers leave MS lawyers with extremely good counters to argue FTC's narrative.

A few? It's mostly dementia level whenever he has to hide something
He pretty much admitted that the line of thought is to try to find ways to make everything exclusive, including Minecraft.

 

[nikolino840]

Nah, PS4 didn't even get Bedrock edition until way after, they don't care about that.

Two years later

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Phil seems to have PTSD over games skipping Xbox. No wonder Jez Corden writes all those articles!

 

[Thirty7ven]

aka both CMA and EU have dismissed the concern of full disclosure on MS's part, for whatever reason. I don't know why that needs this much clarification.

No, they have dismissed the concern of the impact.

 

[splattered]

This is infinitely more entertaining than the CMA process was... and people said nothing interesting would be uncovered throughout the acquisition because everything would be kept sealed. Welp.

 

[Nothing1234]

Redfall being brought up is funny.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Clearly not enough memory.

Damn, he's strapped with an 8GB nVidia miner's edition cards.

Phil up in here acting like his brain design was limited to the S.

Phil is about to RRoD.

Phil almost blue screened.

 

[adamsapple]

No, they have dismissed the concern of the impact.

I mean you can grab the arm from any corner, the end result is that they did not deem it to be a concern in terms of blocking the acquisition.

 

[SlimySnake]

I love how Notch forced them to release Minecraft on all consoles while getting them to pay him $3 billion. Phil is such a novice.

 

[Topher]

dafuq did the YouTube dude say?

 

[Mr Moose]

Two years later

Yes, way after.
So this "Sony not giving them devkits (on time or at all) is probably holding back the RT patched version of Minecraft on modern consoles all round." doesn't make sense.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

He's lying about TES VI.