Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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Dick Jones
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Poor form. I can spell my boss' name, surely Tom Warren can do the same.
Iced Arcade
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saya whaaaat
Banjo64
cumsessed
Their entire acquisition policy asks for gamepass subscription exclusivity in their terms. Just look at the Sega acquisition plan.
93xfan
Banned
The irony of anyone in this thread calling another person in this thread a warrior…
We all want our investment to do well. Who wants to lose decades of purchases (some already de-listed) sometime in the future?
I personally don't want either to dominate. That would be a very bad deal for gamers. I don't trust either company to do right by us.
I want to have just enough slice of the pie available for each to continue to be hungry.
I'm not sure how to get there and stay there, but I hope that is the end result of all of this.
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JawaSaysUtinni
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I'm not going to wade too far into this, but really all I want to say is Tom Warren…
Just who the hell is this guy… journalist is not an acceptable answer. He gets far too much coverage on gaf considering the shite he writes.
Just who the hell is this guy… journalist is not an acceptable answer. He gets far too much coverage on gaf considering the shite he writes.
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Varteras
Gold Member
To be fair, it's kinda hard to just suddenly change your entire mindset when you've spent the better part of the last 20 years being little more than a foil to a particular company. Mostly because a thieving man-child couldn't stand the idea of not being the biggest cock in whatever locker room he strolled into.
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Kilau
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
adamsapple quiet as a mouse tonight. just checking in bro, egg is burying all sorts of narratives tonight and I don't want you to miss it
Celebrating Eid, today is Eid day.
LordCBH
Member
-Satay Nutella CEO of Microsoft Corp.
Excuse me sir, that's Michaelsoft Corp to you.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Exactly. They complain a lot about what Sony and others do, but also do themselves. It's only bad when it isn't in their favour.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Eid Mubarak bro!
Kilau
Member
Rubim
Member
Not anymore, specially with the high costs of a triple AAA. 200million++
Banjo64
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Eid Mubarak bro
NickFire
Member
I don't think so. Can't fault him for telling the truth about his vision for cloud and services. And in my opinion, while his testimony probably pleased the CMA quite a bit, I think he just designated the scape goat for investors if MS ends up with a worst case scenario (no Activision deal, and Starfield underwhelming as a revenue driver).
93xfan
Banned
Disingenuous. It's not like you didn't quote his reasoning.
So Xbox should be the one console without any exclusives? That would instantly kill the brand.
LordCBH
Member
My bad!
Put some RESPEK on the company Bull Gat built.
Edmund
is waiting for Starfield 7
Eid Mubarak Adam. You will forever be my favourite Xbox fan in gaf. You can take jokes and hold a conversation. If not for distance, we'd be hanging out having drinks and food. All the best in whatever you do and good health and happiness to you and your loved ones.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
They were the 1st one to release their games on PC and eliminate full Xbox exclusives. Sony followed suite later. Xbox could also be done with console exclusives if they wanted to.
Vognerful
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I wish they would, and I hope for Sony to follow as well.
FUBARx89
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Disco Elysium ripping off his likeness
xHunter
Member
"I would love to get rid of the entire exclusives on consoles [...]"
He is the CEO, if he wants to do really do it, then he would find ways to do it. Like how they found a way to offer a subscrption service that includes all of their games. Blaming it on Sony is just another one of the usual PR shit.
Ronin_7
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aliadiere25
Member
The CEO of Microsoft doesn't have the power to make his games exclusive. What a lot of bullshit.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I have to admit I am a bit taken aback by a lot of what the MS side has been saying internally. Didn't they learn from the XB1 fiasco? Unless I am reading it wrong (which I might be), it seems that the long term plan for the gaming division is to become what, essentially just a big digital rental store?
Now I want to see what Sony and Nintendo are saying internally too because...if it comes down to that, I mean I'll be pretty much done with gaming lol.
Now I want to see what Sony and Nintendo are saying internally too because...if it comes down to that, I mean I'll be pretty much done with gaming lol.
Don't worry Destin is the best spinning everything pro Xbox the rest will see what he says and copy and paste it
Banjo64
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Definitely not something that's being pushed by Sony or Nintendo. This is M$ being willing to take billions in losses over the next 10+ years to squeeze everyone else out.
GHG
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Damn I wish I could hear it live right now. No one seems to be restreaming it.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That and I think their bigger focus is to just shift to mobile gaming. At least that's what their internal conversations and documents show.
They are more interested in making mobile games than consoles and console games. They even talked about completely shutting down Xbox and creating a new Microsoft mobile gaming in place of Xbox.
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DeaDPo0L84
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At first before looking it up I thought you were talking about the implant women get to prevent pregnancy. I was like "man there is a holiday for everything nowadays".
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Honestly if you were to ask me, I would not know if the CEO could or couldn't make these kind of decisions. If that has been delegated to Phil because he knows the games business better, Satya could have simply delegated that decision to him while he looks at more big picture stuff. Maybe deciding exclusives is below his paygrade and he simply doesn't wanna step on toes.
Good leaders do this, they surround themselves with people that have more expertise then they do and in trust in their judgement. So I don't think he is bullshitting with that quote.
Also when he says "if it were up to him" he is illustrating this. Sure he could go bull in a china shop on this and override decisions on exclusivity, but doing so would have internal consequences as well as external. I think he completely believes that exclusives are a necessary evil that if he were not participate in the practice he'd basically be putting Xbox in even more jeopardy. If Sony were to get rid of exclusives, he'd be happy to follow suit. Obviously, Sony won't do this because it is a prime source of it's strength. Therefore, he cannot.
People who doubt this are either stupid or willfully ignorant that actions have consequences.
Good leaders do this, they surround themselves with people that have more expertise then they do and in trust in their judgement. So I don't think he is bullshitting with that quote.
Also when he says "if it were up to him" he is illustrating this. Sure he could go bull in a china shop on this and override decisions on exclusivity, but doing so would have internal consequences as well as external. I think he completely believes that exclusives are a necessary evil that if he were not participate in the practice he'd basically be putting Xbox in even more jeopardy. If Sony were to get rid of exclusives, he'd be happy to follow suit. Obviously, Sony won't do this because it is a prime source of it's strength. Therefore, he cannot.
People who doubt this are either stupid or willfully ignorant that actions have consequences.
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Varteras
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Exclusives are a tactic that has been used since the industry started and the only safe way to have no exclusives is to be the company exclusively running the industry. Any executive worth their paycheck would know how dangerous it is to have none. Of course, when you're the competitor having one hell of a time getting your own good exclusives out the door, you'd wish the others weren't doing it at all. Then you truly could just race to the bottom by cutting Day 1 GamePass deals. Microsoft sure as shit hasn't proven themselves creative enough to differentiate with hardware, either.
Dick Jones
Banned
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
We all know that Satya's statement is bullshit.
We know from Microsoft's internal docs and testimonies how important exclusives are as they have talked about the importance of exclusivity in detail.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I added the democracy part. It sounded like a cringe Palpatine speech.Bruh the inner-Palpatine is best left unspoken
I am referring to Tom Warren.
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Banjo64
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Phil touted that, but how does it make sense to acquire 10 plus studios who are only experienced in console/PC development to make them all pivot?
If he's that flippant about Xbox that he was seemingly willing to consider chucking it in for mobile, why not chuck Xbox in right now and start publishing all games on Switch/PS4/PC & strip back Game Pass to a first party only service to get it on PS and Switch?
They could then get their devs working on mobile games too.
The whole strategy from Xbox seems like a convoluted mess.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Next do one ranking their fanboys based on mental stability.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I thought it seemed pretty straightforward. Keep games away from Sony.
NickFire
Member
Full agreement then.
jm89
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Banjo64
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But why if they were willing to drop Xbox for mobile? Sony are literally only operating in the home console space relative to M$. And if Spencer considered dropping Xbox, it goes against that narrative.
Varteras
Gold Member
Don't let Ryan fool you. He may be the worst of them all. I've seen enough of his tweets to know that his show as "one of the level headed Xbox fans" is just that. A show. He's a raging fanboy who would probably be the most likely among those four to snap and try to kill Jim Ryan at a press meeting.
Banjo64
cumsessed
That tweet where he asked Phil if he could present the Xbox showcase is legitimately the most pathetic interaction I've ever seen on the internet.
Ogbert
Member
It would be an exceedingly aggressive move, almost without precedence. At least none that I can immediately think of.We stand in solidarity on this point.
But hey, since we know you are a UK lawyer (or is solicitor over there?), can we read anything into MS (apparent) willingness to close despite the CMA decision? That part of this saga has me all sorts of confused. I've heard so much about CMA having teeth, not getting overturned usually, etc. So their willingness to close makes no sense to me. So what's your take on that? Could they have gotten assurances from someone who can overturn CMA decision that it will happen?
Obviously the CMA has serious teeth, including the ability to require divestment or significant fines. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the very top figures suggested (20% of revenue etc), but it would still be eye watering sums.
Where this does differ is in the fact that the two companies under consideration are both US. Any domestic regulator is territorial, but especially so when the company under scrutiny is incorporated within their jurisdiction.
Again, I have no idea what MS is planning. Such aggression would be surprising, but this case continues to deliver in that regard. We also don't really know the exact details of the ABK contract, so maybe this is all a bluff and an extension is easily arrived at. Who knows?
I think the interesting thing around CAT and CMA will be the decision made around the definition of the cloud market.
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