digoutyoursoul
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Xbox Twitter/X Just Confirmed Their Biggest Games Will Be Multiplatform
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Some of us are out there . Look at my post history, you may fall asleep reading it but I criticise because I'm a fan
laynelane
Member
Gives us some insight into how seriously we should take these awards, doesn't it? Phil is certainly a smooth operator. It's not just media and social media who support him either. Even now, there are still Xbox fans who believe in him. If he comes out and says everything will be 'okay' (in some convoluted and vague way), many alarmed by the news in the OP will snap right back in line.
Mr Moose
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ReBurn
Gold Member
Not really since their biggest games have been multi-platform the entire generation. This seems like business as usual.
mayham2199
Member
Can't stand this guy. Literally had to close youtube as he sat there and kept parroting "The industry is changing" and implying it wasn't just Xbox. No Parris its just Xbox and the industry isn't changing because Xbox is changing.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I really like Xbox but even I admit this show is something 
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
But there's a difference. PlayStation games come to PC months to years later, because they don't need that platform to help carry their games. Xbox isn't in that situation.
Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
They're just a few years behind XBox.
All of PlayStations biggest games this generation (GAAS) will benefit from being day and date PC. The single player studios are leaving money on the table by not doing that.
By the time PS6 gets here I expect day and date for all games.
Will be interesting to see how their policy evolves after Helldivers 2 success. The 4 games Xbox are making multiplatform are also over a year+ old.
semiconscious
Member
seriously. let's not jump the gun here, & let's first give phil a chance to even further confuse us...
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Syphon Filter
Member
Sony will eventually put all games day 1 on PC. You can already see it with Hell Divers 2 and the president talked about being more aggressive with PC games recently.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
A few years behind Xbox? No. They're not putting their games on Xbox because they don't need to. Xbox is doing this because they do.
S Syphon Filter
PC? Maybe, but that won't be anytime soon. And, that's also irrelevant because I was talking about PS → Xbox. Not sure why y'all keep quoting about PC day-and-date.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Business isn't about need. It's about optimization.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
What optimization does PlayStation earn by putting their games on Xbox?
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I'm talking about putting their single player games on PC day and date. As budgets go up and the PC audience slowly grows, it'll be too hard to pass up.
Venom Snake
Member
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I wasn't ever talking against this idea (although it is a ways off as Sony obviously wants to sell hardware), so you've been wasting your time quoting me.
My point from the beginning was about Microsoft and Sony porting games and why. They are in two completely different situations and the topic of discussion is about Microsoft porting all of their big games to other consoles.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
I mean, at this point it's very clear that the average Xbox fan has masochistic tendencies, for sure.
digoutyoursoul
Member
What stands out to me, in terms of a lot of fellow Xbox guys especially the more outspoken ones, they say Xbox is third place in the console market and some distance so all this makes sense.
Ok fine.
Then why not start the discussion as to why they are far behind? Why not raise the possibility that the current situation is self inflicted and they haven't done a good a job as they should have in the console space?
A lot of the time they won't delve into this at all. It's more a "it is what it is " thing which doesn't address the problems.
Ok fine.
Then why not start the discussion as to why they are far behind? Why not raise the possibility that the current situation is self inflicted and they haven't done a good a job as they should have in the console space?
A lot of the time they won't delve into this at all. It's more a "it is what it is " thing which doesn't address the problems.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
As a PC gamer, I say it won't happen. Because we lost TES to console despite the PC being the best place to play TES. Because Console is where the money is. There is no pot of gold in PC, if there were then Bethesda wouldn't have used controller UI for Skyrim.
Dick Jones
Banned
1. Devalue their first party games and condition their audience to not buy games
2. Leak your plan and release a podcast 3 weeks later to vaguely address the leak.
3. ??????
4. Profit
That picture is wrong. It's meant to ask Xbox fans to "flip to Switch"You should know better to than just take xbox for their word.
It's coming. Question is when?
Raonak
Banned
MS does this all the damn time.
Whenever they pivot they say that "THIS IS THE ONLY FUTUTRE - EVERYBODY FOLLOW US NOW!"
Online DRM console is the only future.
Digital is the only future.
Cloud is the only future.
Gamepass is the only future.
Multiplatform games the only future.
It's where the whole SonyToo (TM) nonsense comes from.
Did you get your PR script straight from MS?
PlayStation is not a game publisher first, they know that game publishing has small margins, now matter how many platforms you reach.
Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo, Valve and Epic know that being the platform holder is where the money is - it's why valve can literally release nothing and print money.
And why playstation studios can release 1 game in a year and still be successful.
Sony knows the Playstation platform prints money, and know that their single player games only being available on them is what makes their platform appealing in the first place.
Xbox fucked this up by not having a solid exclusive content pipeline... and now their Xbox platform has failed, so they had no choice to switch to becoming a game publisher first and foremost.
And now they are screaming that the "Multiplatform is the future!" because they're were forced into it.
And predictably, there's a wave of xbox and pc fans parroting the SONY TOO and NINTENDO TOO to make them feel better about themselves.
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Their messaging is ALL OVER the place!
BlackTron
Member
Meh, not really. Now, these games don't need to sell a console. They only need to sell themselves, nothing more.
bitbydeath
Member
Are you just joking around, or ???
sendit
Banned
"Our vision at Xbox is to bring the joy and community of gaming to everyone, on every device. While we are exploring multiplatform opportunities, ensuring the best possible experience for Xbox users remains our top priority. Rest assured, we're dedicated to making Xbox the best place to play, with exclusive content and unique experiences for our community." -Phil Spencer
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Nah, this is all wrong. All wrong indeed.
Game budgets skyrocketing and the rise of social gaming means limiting your audience to a single piece of plastic makes less and less sense.
PlayStation is already putting 60% of their resources (GAAS) day and date on PC. Capping the other 40% is going to look more and more foolish as they look at what they could be making on PC.
We've seen this trend happening for years too. There was a time when Sega, Nintendo, and Playstation were considered the biggest game makers in the world. Now EA, Ubisoft, ABK, Tencent and others have all caught up because they've had the advantage of releasing on all platforms.
Hell, look at everyone freaking out over the Helldivers 2 sales splits. That plastic box is worrying to a lot of people.
sachos
Member
If those are real Xbox fans and not just PS trolls, then color me surprised by the response.
TheGodfather07
Member
I wasn't ever talking against this idea (although it is a ways off as Sony obviously wants to sell hardware), so you've been wasting your time quoting me.
My point from the beginning was about Microsoft and Sony porting games and why. They are in two completely different situations and the topic of discussion is about Microsoft porting all of their big games to other consoles.
Good guy Microsoft are doing it because its better for the industry! They care for the health of the industry. They're not doing it because they're getting their asses kicked and can barely sell hardware and software anymore.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I told you so.My point from the beginning was about Microsoft and Sony porting games and why. They are in two completely different situations and the topic of discussion is about Microsoft porting all of their big games to other consoles.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
He's right, the biggest games are multiplatform.
Just looked at the top selling games of all time and, unsurprisingly, the 3 top selling games are multiplatform. Minecraft and GTAV are the two best selling games of the modern era, GTAV is nearly 200M, Minecraft is 300M).
Top selling PS4 exclusives topped out at 20M, none made the list.
Nintendo has done quite well in selling a lot of exclusive games, though because their games remain exclusive they will never come close to GTAV numbers.
MS did well to buy up the top selling game of all time (Minecraft at 300M). Sadly, I can't say the same for Sony, whose highest selling game is Horizon, which was helped a few million by PC. Luckily Sony is bringing more and more games to PC
Just looked at the top selling games of all time and, unsurprisingly, the 3 top selling games are multiplatform. Minecraft and GTAV are the two best selling games of the modern era, GTAV is nearly 200M, Minecraft is 300M).
Top selling PS4 exclusives topped out at 20M, none made the list.
Nintendo has done quite well in selling a lot of exclusive games, though because their games remain exclusive they will never come close to GTAV numbers.
MS did well to buy up the top selling game of all time (Minecraft at 300M). Sadly, I can't say the same for Sony, whose highest selling game is Horizon, which was helped a few million by PC. Luckily Sony is bringing more and more games to PC
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's all politics, you see.
Raonak
Banned
Once again, you're completely overlooking the fact that SEGA, NINTENDO, SONY, XBOX and VALUE want to be platform holder first and foremost.
That's where all the money is.
Xbox and Sega didn't turn into third party publishers because they were chasing money.
They did it because their platforms failed.
TLOU3 will be a PS5/PS6 exclusive.
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Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
Kek what console warrior clickbait, all of this is already the case. Spencer already said so with games like Fortnite and Roblox being multiplatform and the biggest games of the console industry not Gears 5, Halo, Spiderman or Uncharted. On top of this Xbox's biggest games are already on more than one platform and this has been the case since 2018 lmao.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
From now on MS should put a suicide hotline phone number on the box of every Xbox Series X console they sell.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You're almost there and you don't even see it.
FunkMiller
Banned
…and if they do, their console sales will suffer the same way Xbox's have.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
BlackTron
Member
The phone number is mostly there for the reseller
HeWhoWalks
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donfonzie
Member
NoHe's right, the biggest games are multiplatform.
Just looked at the top selling games of all time and, unsurprisingly, the 3 top selling games are multiplatform. Minecraft and GTAV are the two best selling games of the modern era, GTAV is nearly 200M, Minecraft is 300M).
Nintendo has done quite well in selling a lot of exclusive games. MS did well to buy up the top selling game of all time (Minecraft at 300M). Sadly, I can't say the same for Sony, whose highest selling game is Horizon, which was helped a few million by PC. Luckily Sony is bringing more and more games to PC
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
Topping out at 20M is abysmal compared to the multiplatform games. Minecraft = 300M. GTAV = 200M
Horizon (thanks to PC) actually made it to the top 48 of all time
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
It's like some are just coming in here challenging each other to see who can throw bullshit the furthest!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Don't show Nintendo. Funny how everyone always wants to leave out Nintendo as well. Only one of the two high end console is having sales issues.
Katatonic
Member
That's by design.