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Microsoft plans to put Call of Duty on gamepass - wallstreet journal
MisterXDTV
Member
You do realize GamePass in on PC as well??
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
So do we listen to the people that said the acquisition wouldn't go through, then said that CoD wouldn't be on game pass? Just wonder what strike three will be.
Edit: Don't take this post too seriously.
Edit: Don't take this post too seriously.
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rm082e
Gold Member
Have we ever gotten a clear idea of how many PC Game Pass subs they have? My impression has always been very very few.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Oh man.....if you are going to go down that road then start with the folks making lofty claims about Xbox this gen. I think they are on strike 30.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Oh man.....if you are going to go down that road then start with the folks making lofty claims about Xbox this gen. I think they are on strike 30.
feynoob
Banned
You keep saying this as if the game is exclusive to Xbox.
Only sales it will harm is Xbox one,, and that will be replaced by mtx.
This isn't starfield situation, where MS can't make money from mtx.
ByWatterson
Member
LOL, they're sacrificing half a billion dollars at least on console and PC.
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...there's a guy named Bloomberg who works at the Wall Street Journal? He lives in The Atlantic with his wife Financial Times and their son Forbes.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Its not going to move the needle people leaving Battlenet and buying GP to play COD
Even if it does the revenue coming from in store and battlepasses wont change.
GHG
Member
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Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
Nadella to Spencer
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
A
-70% sales (game + microtransactions) on PS, PC and XBOX
ABK with MS revenue:
-100% of sales on Xbox and 70% on PC (steam), PS and Switch 2.
It's clear where MS can take the license to take risks without the revenue being too affected vs. ABK's. And it adds money savings on 3rd party gaming deals for Gamepass the month COD launches
ABK revenue before:
-70% sales (game + microtransactions) on PS, PC and XBOX
ABK with MS revenue:
-100% of sales on Xbox and 70% on PC (steam), PS and Switch 2.
It's clear where MS can take the license to take risks without the revenue being too affected vs. ABK's. And it adds money savings on 3rd party gaming deals for Gamepass the month COD launches
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Microsoft this winter:
Banjo64
cumsessed
If City win the Premier League on Sunday you're going to wish you'd never been born sunshine. If we fuck it up, you'll never see me again.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
Was it ever a question? Obviously this was going to happen. All MS games are on GamePass and COD will sell a lot of subs, possibly even push some consoles.
feynoob
Banned
If city win, it's the usual 115 copium for me.
If we win, I would be shameless nonstop.
ViciousAgenda
Member
Good move imo and might generate interest in gamepass.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Would MS rather a PS5/XSX owner subscribe to game pass and play on Xbox, or buy the game on PS5?
recursive
Member
Redmond has some banger drugs. Clearly phil and Nutella are on them
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Well you eventually cross the line where subbing long term costs more than buying the game and likely most of those people still buying stuff in game regardless
The question is how big is the playerbase that buys GP anyhow plus buys the game, thats the market you lose in initial sales
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Man…. I was never an Xbox cheerleader but I thought Xbox would dominate after buying half the damn industry with Zenimax and ABK. I'm pretty shocked at how little advantage that has given them.Oh man.....if you are going to go down that road then start with the folks making lofty claims about Xbox this gen. I think they are on strike 30.
vaibhavpisal
Member
"When everyone plays, we all win"
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Topher
Identifies as young
I was one of those who thought Xbox would do a lot better this gen even before the acquisitions. So count me among those swinging and missing as well.
FunkMiller
Banned
So, they either keep GamePass at a low cost, and lose a shit ton of money on COD, or they raise the price enough to pay for COD, and probably lose a load of subscribers.
What a fucking dumb ass position to put yourself in.
What a fucking dumb ass position to put yourself in.
XXL
Banned
I've been through a bunch of the old threads.I was one of those who thought Xbox would do a lot better this gen even before the acquisitions. So count me among those swinging and missing as well.
You're good.
Others, not so much.
Everyone is wrong sometimes, but some people here had some extreme takes surrounding alot of this stuff.
GHG
Member
So basically in order for 1st party game to be viable for Gamepass it needs to be GAAS and full of microtransactions?
NickFire
Member
I could talk myself into this being a good or bad business move. They have all the data so if they think it will benefit them they should do it.
Not sure why anyone would suggest this is a change in strategy for MS in media. They have been day 1 on everything they own for a while now.
Not sure why anyone would suggest this is a change in strategy for MS in media. They have been day 1 on everything they own for a while now.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I don't know about other Xbox first party titles but I think it totally works for COD and any other game that makes a fuck ton of money off MTX
NickFire
Member
The benefits of getting more players when MTX is being sold are obvious to me in most instances. But why didn't Activision make COD and Warzone both free to play? I can't answer that and it gives me reservations about whether banking on MTX is appropriate for a game that traditionally releases a new game annually. I'm also uncertain on how much MTX they will gain from existing GP subscribers (that they weren't already getting). Pure anecdotes for sure, but I find it unlikely that people who once thought COD could run on Switch in 2022 / 2023, or express interest in old COD campaigns, will be buying Snoop Dog skins (like I do - and I make no apologies for it).
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Nydius
Gold Member
If true, Microsoft continues to make boneheaded decisions that will end with the death of Xbox as a brand.
I ran hypothetical numbers in a different thread but if even half of Game Pass subscribers decide to play it on Game Pass rather than buy it, that's a $1 billion-plus loss of revenue. There's no way they're going to sell enough subscriptions to cover that loss, even with a more expensive tier.
I ran hypothetical numbers in a different thread but if even half of Game Pass subscribers decide to play it on Game Pass rather than buy it, that's a $1 billion-plus loss of revenue. There's no way they're going to sell enough subscriptions to cover that loss, even with a more expensive tier.
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RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Not surprised. Nadella absolutely loves SAAS models and since he took over almost every offering under Microsoft's umbrella has a day 1 subscription offering. And it's not just him. Investors salivate over the thought of recurring revenue vs burst sales. The bigger issue is solving churn.
dem
Member
If they weren't going to buy it, its not a loss of revenue. Do you really think half of Gamepass subscribers buy COD?
It is a potential mtx customer though
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ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Most of the guys who play CoD probably play 2 games a year. It, and a sports game of their given national preference.
If they don't have Gamepass already, they're not going to subscribe for the privilige to play "free CoD" when Warzone is right there - if they don't have to get an Xbox or a capable PC beforehand either.
All this does is take a big chunk out of their revenue.
If they don't have Gamepass already, they're not going to subscribe for the privilige to play "free CoD" when Warzone is right there - if they don't have to get an Xbox or a capable PC beforehand either.
All this does is take a big chunk out of their revenue.
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Cyberpunkd
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twilo99
Member
lol
Portugeezer
Member
They're kicking the can down the road, maybe in hope to get some hard sales this holiday?
I don't remember Bethesda games taking this long.
I don't remember Bethesda games taking this long.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Orbital2060
Member
Sneakysnake
Banned
Those are coming too. The entire COD series will end up on GP.