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[ChorizoPicozo]

Breaking news (well a rumour for now since it's only "sources") - will update post more sources as they come in:




Edit: update, reuters report:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-plans-release-next-call-duty-version-subscription-service-wsj-reports-2024-05-17/

This is a PR tactic for people to subscribe NOW. but they can't delay the inevitable.

 

[MisterXDTV]

You do realize its still going to be sold to PS and PC players plus all the MTX and Battlepasses still cost actual money?

Right?

You do realize GamePass in on PC as well??

 

[FoxMcChief]

So do we listen to the people that said the acquisition wouldn’t go through, then said that CoD wouldn’t be on game pass? Just wonder what strike three will be.

Edit: Don’t take this post too seriously.

 

[rm082e]

You do realize GamePass in on PC as well??

Have we ever gotten a clear idea of how many PC Game Pass subs they have? My impression has always been very very few.

 

[Topher]

So do we listen to the people that said the acquisition wouldn’t go through, then said that CoD wouldn’t be on game pass? Just wonder what strike three will be.

Oh man.....if you are going to go down that road then start with the folks making lofty claims about Xbox this gen. I think they are on strike 30.

 

[Banjo64]

Well it's not like there aren't already free versions of call of duty...

You don’t understand GHG. CoD at £70 cannibalises F2P CoD. To reach true enlightenment it all must be free. I don’t mean Game Pass ‘free’.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Oh man.....if you are going to go down that road then start with the folks making lofty claims about Xbox this gen. I think they are on strike 30.

 

[feynoob]

You don’t understand GHG. CoD at £70 cannibalises F2P CoD. To reach true enlightenment it all must be free. I don’t mean Game Pass ‘free’.

You keep saying this as if the game is exclusive to Xbox.

Only sales it will harm is Xbox one,, and that will be replaced by mtx.

This isn't starfield situation, where MS can't make money from mtx.

 

[ByWatterson]

LOL, they're sacrificing half a billion dollars at least on console and PC.

Wait, wait wait!!!

............


...there's a guy named Bloomberg who works at the Wall Street Journal? He lives in The Atlantic with his wife Financial Times and their son Forbes.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You do realize GamePass in on PC as well??

Its not going to move the needle people leaving Battlenet and buying GP to play COD

Even if it does the revenue coming from in store and battlepasses wont change.

 

[GHG]

You don’t understand GHG. CoD at £70 cannibalises F2P CoD. To reach true enlightenment it all must be free. I don’t mean Game Pass ‘free’.

Well in that case gamepass must also become free.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Nadella to Spencer

 

[FoxMcChief]

Well in that case gamepass must also become free.

I feel like I keep waiting to see a nipple wiggle free. Either way, I like what I see.

 

[Darsxx82]

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So they are gonna kill Activision revenue as well. Amazing!

ABK revenue before:

-70% sales (game + microtransactions) on PS, PC and XBOX

ABK with MS revenue:

-100% of sales on Xbox and 70% on PC (steam), PS and Switch 2.

It's clear where MS can take the license to take risks without the revenue being too affected vs. ABK's. And it adds money savings on 3rd party gaming deals for Gamepass the month COD launches

 

[Beechos]

Is it that really big of a thing how many units on xbox does it actually sell yearly.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Microsoft this winter:

 

[Banjo64]

You keep saying this as if the game is exclusive to Xbox.

Only sales it will harm is Xbox one,, and that will be replaced by mtx.

This isn't starfield situation, where MS can't make money from mtx.

If City win the Premier League on Sunday you’re going to wish you’d never been born sunshine. If we fuck it up, you’ll never see me again.

 

[feynoob]

Well in that case gamepass must also become free.

You are blocking my views of those juggling magic

 

[UltimaKilo]

Was it ever a question? Obviously this was going to happen. All MS games are on GamePass and COD will sell a lot of subs, possibly even push some consoles.

 

[feynoob]

If City win the Premier League on Sunday you’re going to wish you’d never been born sunshine. If we fuck it up, you’ll never see me again.

If city win, it's the usual 115 copium for me.

If we win, I would be shameless nonstop.

 

[ViciousAgenda]

Good move imo and might generate interest in gamepass.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Would MS rather a PS5/XSX owner subscribe to game pass and play on Xbox, or buy the game on PS5?

 

[recursive]

Absolutely insane. They saw that gamepass killed xbox and games from other studios so naturally they are going to try and kill their $75 billion game.

Redmond has some banger drugs. Clearly phil and Nutella are on them

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Would MS rather a PS5/XSX owner subscribe to game pass and play on Xbox, or buy the game on PS5?

Well you eventually cross the line where subbing long term costs more than buying the game and likely most of those people still buying stuff in game regardless

The question is how big is the playerbase that buys GP anyhow plus buys the game, thats the market you lose in initial sales

 

[Fake]

Will be their grave.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Oh man.....if you are going to go down that road then start with the folks making lofty claims about Xbox this gen. I think they are on strike 30.

Man…. I was never an Xbox cheerleader but I thought Xbox would dominate after buying half the damn industry with Zenimax and ABK. I’m pretty shocked at how little advantage that has given them.

 

[MDSLKTR]

They have to sell a Masterchief bundle for 30$

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Man…. I was never an Xbox cheerleader but I thought Xbox would dominate after buying half the damn industry with Zenimax and ABK. I’m pretty shocked at how little advantage that has given them.

“When everyone plays, we all win”

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Oh man.....if you are going to go down that road then start with the folks making lofty claims about Xbox this gen. I think they are on strike 30.

Sometimes folks need reminders!

 

[Topher]

Man…. I was never an Xbox cheerleader but I thought Xbox would dominate after buying half the damn industry with Zenimax and ABK. I’m pretty shocked at how little advantage that has given them.

I was one of those who thought Xbox would do a lot better this gen even before the acquisitions. So count me among those swinging and missing as well.

 

[Topher]

 

[FunkMiller]

So, they either keep GamePass at a low cost, and lose a shit ton of money on COD, or they raise the price enough to pay for COD, and probably lose a load of subscribers.

What a fucking dumb ass position to put yourself in.

 

[XXL]

I was one of those who thought Xbox would do a lot better this gen even before the acquisitions. So count me among those swinging and missing as well.

I've been through a bunch of the old threads.

You're good.

Others, not so much.

Everyone is wrong sometimes, but some people here had some extreme takes surrounding alot of this stuff.

 

[DragonNCM]

Insane if you ask me.

Probably the most expensive (and risky) Hail Mary of all time across the industry.

What MS touch it is turning to shit......so COD is already dead.....

 

[GHG]

So basically in order for 1st party game to be viable for Gamepass it needs to be GAAS and full of microtransactions?

 

[NickFire]

I could talk myself into this being a good or bad business move. They have all the data so if they think it will benefit them they should do it.

Not sure why anyone would suggest this is a change in strategy for MS in media. They have been day 1 on everything they own for a while now.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I don't know about other Xbox first party titles but I think it totally works for COD and any other game that makes a fuck ton of money off MTX

 

[NickFire]

I don't know about other Xbox first party titles but I think it totally works for COD and any other game that makes a fuck ton of money off MTX

The benefits of getting more players when MTX is being sold are obvious to me in most instances. But why didn't Activision make COD and Warzone both free to play? I can't answer that and it gives me reservations about whether banking on MTX is appropriate for a game that traditionally releases a new game annually. I'm also uncertain on how much MTX they will gain from existing GP subscribers (that they weren't already getting). Pure anecdotes for sure, but I find it unlikely that people who once thought COD could run on Switch in 2022 / 2023, or express interest in old COD campaigns, will be buying Snoop Dog skins (like I do - and I make no apologies for it).

 

[poppabk]

Insane if you ask me.

Probably the most expensive (and risky) Hail Mary of all time across the industry.

?
They still get to sell on PlayStation and most of PC, and get mtx payments and probably lots of premium one week early 'beta' access purchases. Plus the continued gamepass subscriptions.
It's honestly not that risky at all with the small xbox install base.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

So basically in order for 1st party game to be viable for Gamepass it needs to be GAAS and full of microtransactions?

No, it also requires a more expensive Gamepass tier.

 

[Nydius]

If true, Microsoft continues to make boneheaded decisions that will end with the death of Xbox as a brand.

I ran hypothetical numbers in a different thread but if even half of Game Pass subscribers decide to play it on Game Pass rather than buy it, that’s a $1 billion-plus loss of revenue. There’s no way they’re going to sell enough subscriptions to cover that loss, even with a more expensive tier.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Not surprised. Nadella absolutely loves SAAS models and since he took over almost every offering under Microsoft's umbrella has a day 1 subscription offering. And it's not just him. Investors salivate over the thought of recurring revenue vs burst sales. The bigger issue is solving churn.

 

[dem]

If true, Microsoft continues to make boneheaded decisions that will end with the death of Xbox as a brand.

I ran hypothetical numbers in a different thread but if even half of Game Pass subscribers decide to play it on Game Pass rather than buy it, that’s a $1 billion-plus loss of revenue. There’s no way they’re going to sell enough subscriptions to cover that loss, even with a more expensive tier.

If they weren't going to buy it, its not a loss of revenue. Do you really think half of Gamepass subscribers buy COD?

It is a potential mtx customer though

 

[ProtoByte]

Most of the guys who play CoD probably play 2 games a year. It, and a sports game of their given national preference.

If they don't have Gamepass already, they're not going to subscribe for the privilige to play "free CoD" when Warzone is right there - if they don't have to get an Xbox or a capable PC beforehand either.

All this does is take a big chunk out of their revenue.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Absolutely insane. They saw that gamepass killed xbox and games from other studios so naturally they are going to try and kill their $75 billion game.

 

[twilo99]

Two points on this:

• No one is going to buy a COD game anymore

• 
  
  lol

 

[Portugeezer]

They're kicking the can down the road, maybe in hope to get some hard sales this holiday?

I don't remember Bethesda games taking this long.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

They're kicking the can down the road, maybe in hope to get some hard sales this holiday?

I don't remember Bethesda games taking this long.

It would have spoiled the June 9th show

 

[Orbital2060]

You do realize its still going to be sold to PS and PC players plus all the MTX and Battlepasses still cost actual money?

Right?

 

[Sneakysnake]

Only the latest? Aw shit, I'd love to replay the first 2 games, and they never seem to go on sale on Steam either.

Those are coming too. The entire COD series will end up on GP.