Jeff Grubb reiterates that the PlayStation Showcase is happening this month

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ManaByte said:
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tmlDan said:
Honestly, he could be right. They may not have a show planned until June/July for all we know. Hell, maybe not until September.

It's entirely possible, Concord and the Astro game are at SGF, alongside the GOW Ragnarok PC version. oh, and the Horizon lego game.
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That's already too much stuff for SGF, plus SIE still has to show Until Dawn, Convallaria, Lost Soul Aside and GRAVITY DAZE 2.
 
Something weird is going to happen at this business thing but I don't know what. Everything about the timing is targeting consumers and news outlets.

The timing is very US centric and not normally when SIE Japan does something as a business.

Possibilities:
  • Pro Console announcement.
  • Price Cut.
  • Discontinue PS VR2 (very unlikely to be actually said aloud).
  • Formal announcement of re-org with new SIE first party lead now that Herman is in charge.
  • Portable PS4.
  • Consolidation of Bungie.
  • Distinguish day one PC games like Helldivers 2 vs console exclusives.
  • (Absolute long shot) Disney or Apple style event covering games + Pro console with 2 to 3 year roadmap of titles.
  • Partnership with "Microsoft Gaming." (Recognize that they are a new 3rd party partner, better split, CoD "not going anywhere)."
 
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nial said:
What makes you think that?
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schaft0620 said:
  • Pro Console announcement.
  • Price Cut.
  • Discontinue PS VR2 (very unlikely to be actually said aloud).
  • Formal announcement of re-org with new SIE first party lead now that Herman is in charge.
  • Portable PS4.
  • Consolidation of Bungie.
  • Distinguish day one PC games like Helldivers 2 vs console exclusives.
  • (Absolute long shot) Disney or Apple style event covering games + Pro console with 2 to 3 year roadmap of titles.
  • Partnership with "Microsoft Gaming." (Recognize that they are a new 3rd party partner, better split, CoD "not going anywhere
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schaft0620 said:
Something weird is going to happen at this business thing but I don't know what. Everything about the timing is targeting consumers and news outlets.

The timing is very US centric and not normally when SIE Japan does something as a business.

Possibilities:
  • Pro Console announcement.
  • Price Cut.
  • Discontinue PS VR2 (very unlikely to be actually said aloud).
  • Formal announcement of re-org with new SIE first party lead now that Herman is in charge.
  • Portable PS4.
  • Consolidation of Bungie.
  • Distinguish day one PC games like Helldivers 2 vs console exclusives.
  • (Absolute long shot) Disney or Apple style event covering games + Pro console with 2 to 3 year roadmap of titles.
  • Partnership with "Microsoft Gaming." (Recognize that they are a new 3rd party partner, better split, CoD "not going anywhere)."
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They had the business meeting in May last year also
 
midnightAI said:
Guerilla Games? Giving Kojima the Decima engine so he could kick start his studio? He's ok in my book
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And Kojima made Death Stranding a PS exclusive in return. Not really a sign of goodwill, just regular business.

Edit: The deal was made under Andrew House. Or at least he was the one who announced it iirc.
 
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KaiserBecks said:
And Kojima made Death Stranding a PS exclusive in return. Not really a sign of goodwill, just regular business.

Edit: The deal was made under Andrew House. Or at least he was the one who announced it iirc.
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Hulst is the one who gave it to Kojima, in fact the name Decima was decided upon between Hulst and Kojima

www.vg247.com

Guerrilla Games co-founder tells the story of how he and Kojima arrived at the name Decima for the studio's engine

During an interview at Reboot Develop today, Guerrilla Games co-founder Hermen Hulst talked a little bit about how the collaboration with Kojima Productions...
www.vg247.com www.vg247.com

If there was any kind of beneficial results it wasnt because Kojima was making an exclusive for PlayStation (they can use it on PC and find whatever publisher they like by the way) it was because it allowed them to share knowledge and both improve Decima.
 
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yurinka said:
It's blatantly clear that it is GoW because it's the original game where they were working and provided multiple receipts.
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Ok, you don't have anything proving that was the game they were referring to though...

Not even one tweet states THAT was the game they were talking about man.

Let it go.
 
tmlDan said:
Honestly, he could be right. They may not have a show planned until June/July for all we know. Hell, maybe not until September.
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No, it is bullshit. These Sony IR events have always been in the second half of May. There is no way anybody could mix them up with State of Play or Showcase. That dude is just looking for apologies.
 
midnightAI said:
Guerilla Games? Giving Kojima the Decima engine so he could kick start his studio? He's ok in my book
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Not sure how that is related to showing something but ok...

I don't care if he gave decima to the fart sniffer, show me some first parties instead.
 
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Sony's communication this gen has been abysmal

No one knows when the games are coming, nothing is announced or updated
 
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Cyborg said:
I think Business Meeting will be the PS Show he is refering to.
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No, there's a show where Astro Bot, Concord, Gravity Rush 2, the Horizon games and others are going to be shown. All of those reveals are imminent, and none of them would take place at a Sony Group powerpoint presentation.
 
GymWolf said:
Not sure how that is related to showing something but ok...

I don't care if he gave decima to the fart sniffer, show me some first parties instead.
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I was just giving two examples of why you could give him some respect, but time will tell if he's a good CEO or not, he hasn't officially even started the job yet.

I guess I'm just not that impatient, they will show the games when they are ready to show them, we know they are in development and that's good enough for me and I'll get excited when they do show them.
 
midnightAI said:
I was just giving two examples of why you could give him some respect, but time will tell if he's a good CEO or not, he hasn't officially even started the job yet.

I guess I'm just not that impatient, they will show the games when they are ready to show them, we know they are in development and that's good enough for me and I'll get excited when they do show them.
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Sorry but giving away an engine is not enough for me, especially because i didin't give much fucks about the game that was made with that engine.

I don't even want rushed games, but show fucking something, show a 10 min vertical slice like you did in tje ps3\ps4 era that i can get hyped for, even if the game release is not close.

What was the second example?
 
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Borowski_1 said:
Sony's communication this gen has been abysmal

No one knows when the games are coming, nothing is announced or updated
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Would you rather a CGI teaser when the game hasn't even started full development and is only going to be released in 5 or more years?

(I'm being extreme but you get my point, it's better to show games when they are in a state to be shown with final/near final assets, a year before release (2 max) is usually about right)
 
GymWolf said:
Sorry but giving away an engine is not enough for me, especially because i didin't give much fucks about the game that was made with that engine.

I don't even want rushed games, but show fucking something, show a 10 min vertical slice like you did in tje ps3\ps4 era that i can get hyped for, even if the game release is not close.

What was the second example?
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Second example was co-founder of Guerrilla Games

Anyway, you'll see Sony games at the XBox showcase and at Summer Games Fest which are shown within the next two weeks (and maybe a PlayStation Showcase or State of Play when they are ready and not when Grubb says so)
 
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midnightAI said:
Second example was co-founder of Guerrilla Games

Anyway, you'll see Sony games at the XBox showcase and at Summer Games Fest which are shown within the next two weeks.
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I hope so.

Most of their teams have been silent for years so they should have something to show.
 
GymWolf said:
I don't even want rushed games, but show fucking something, show a 10 min vertical slice like you did in tje ps3\ps4 era that i can get hyped for, even if the game release is not close.
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That's precisely why Sony's PS4 output was infested by constant delays. Putting together an ultra-polished vertical slice of a game for an event when there's not much else of the game made to begin with is, as seen in the God of War and TLOU Part II documentaries, a massive waste of time and development resources.

You cannot ask a company to do something so counterintuitive in today's day and age (5-7 years development cycles) and expect your point to be taken seriously.
 
midnightAI said:
Would you rather a CGI teaser when the game hasn't even started full development and is only going to be released in 5 or more years?

(I'm being extreme but you get my point, it's better to show games when they are in a state to be shown with final/near final assets, a year before release (2 max) is usually about right)
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Not showing anything at all is not the solution you think it is


Also:

ND: 4 years since the last game
Sucker Punch: 4 years
Bend: 5 years
Asobi: almost 4 years
Blue Point: almost 4 years

And Wolverine was announced almost 3 years ago



If they got nothing to show, what are they even doing?
 
Perrott said:
That's precisely why Sony's PS4 output was infested by constant delays. Putting together an ultra-polished vertical slice of a game for an event when there's not much else of the game made to begin with is, as seen in the God of War and TLOU Part II documentaries, a massive waste of time and development resources.

You cannot ask a company to do something so counterintuitive in today's day and age (5-7 years development cycles) and expect your point to be taken seriously.
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Yep, asking to show something to get people hyped after years of silent is absurd and should not be taken seriously, i understand :lollipop_grinning_sweat:


They actually made a vertical slice for spidey 2 and insomniac is the most prolific sony team so they clearly don't avoid vertical slices alltogether...
 
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Borowski_1 said:
Not showing anything at all is not the solution you think it is


Also:

ND: 4 years since the last game
Sucker Punch: 4 years
Bend: 5 years
Asobi: almost 4 years
Blue Point: almost 4 years

And Wolverine was announced almost 3 years ago



If they got nothing to show, what are they even doing?
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Not wasting time on vertical slices make their teams capable of producing games every 2-3 years.

Oh wait...
 
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Chill guys, I imagine MS want to get their own show out the way before the state of play Microsoft gaming special gets shown.
 
Borowski_1 said:
Not showing anything at all is not the solution you think it is


Also:

ND: 4 years since the last game
Sucker Punch: 4 years
Bend: 5 years
Asobi: almost 4 years
Blue Point: almost 4 years

And Wolverine was announced almost 3 years ago



If they got nothing to show, what are they even doing?
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Making the games? We know it can take 5 years+ to make games especially to the size/quality of Sony's first party.

(Bend was working as a support studio for ND, they have been working on a new IP since then)
 
Perrott said:
No, there's a show where Astro Bot, Concord, Gravity Rush 2, the Horizon games and others are going to be shown. All of those reveals are imminent, and none of them would take place at a Sony Group powerpoint presentation.
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Oh didnt know that informatie. But seems silly to annouce a PS meeting this late, no time to hype people up about it.
 
Borowski_1 said:
Not showing anything at all is not the solution you think it is


Also:

ND: 4 years since the last game
Sucker Punch: 4 years
Bend: 5 years
Asobi: almost 4 years
Blue Point: almost 4 years

And Wolverine was announced almost 3 years ago



If they got nothing to show, what are they even doing?
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When you list them like that it's pretty bad, given 2 of them are their strongest developers.
 
Jeff grubb isn't reliable and shouldn't be trusted with leaks anymore. There was that one time where he leaked a bunch of dates for multiple shows back in 2020 iirc that turned out to be very accurate, but since then he's 50/50 at best. He's guessing and doesn't actually know anything.
 
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