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Jason Scheier on DEI Consultants: "Too Much Diversity isnt the problem"
Varteras
Gold Member
Gotta love how he frames this. As if that is the only thing gamers have been complaining about. But, you know, when it comes to things like this, it wouldn't be a Bitch Schreier thing to say if he wasn't screaming about his Far Left ideologies as loudly as he could. Nice to see him still on a platform being run by a guy he can't stand, that was, according to him, supposed to go down in flames weeks after he bought them. A nice little reminder that his soyboy ass doesn't have the fortitude to stand by his ideals in the face of losing money and exposure.
Nostalgic Nightmare
Member
Me playing NES/SNES/Genesis/pc engine/saturn/neo geo/ps1 as the industry rots from within thanks to greedy execs and danger hair medicated activists who think sexuality is personality.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
DragoonWalker
Member
Diversity was coming along just fine and naturally if slowly until these vocal militant idiots came along and made it a problem. Or maybe it was Wall Street who pulled one over all of us as a distraction. Now it's had the adverse effect of creating resentment and anger between different groups, setting back race, gender, and political relations in society decades backwards. It's all a tiresome blame game, hand wringing of personal responsibility, lack of self reflection, aggressive hypocrisy, opportunistic power grab, fearmongering shield, hidden agendas, ideological trojan horse, you name it.
I don't want to be around the day when white people can't take it anymore being blamed for all of society's woes and nuKlan members come breaking down my fucking door.
I don't want to be around the day when white people can't take it anymore being blamed for all of society's woes and nuKlan members come breaking down my fucking door.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Yes, as "reviewers" are evidence of anything. Meanwhile we literally do have evidence of said reviewers being told what to say, how to say it, and trying to shut out others who do not follow the hive mind. They have shown that they are not to be trusted on *anything*. Not suggesting you should listen to me, but come up with your own views and opinions based on the customer base and seeing gameplay, trailers, and a demo for yourself.
We also have decades upon decades, going nigh on a century in the entertainment industry showcasing that IPs alone can sell based on the name and that the average consumer does not do a lot of research into what they buy. It takes years for continued mediocrity to start to show a decreasing trend, as we see with the Marvel films and Star Wars media. Spider-Man 1 had its issues, but it didn't have the horrid writing, forced DEI design, or cringey sidequests where they treat BIPOC and LGBT as the only form of Diversity that exists in NYC.
But you will make some handwavey remark because you truly believe in the DEI cancer that pushes a black and white dichotomy and "oppressor vs oppressed" victimhood mindset.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
Of course they were. "ACAB" became a major thing after Spider-Man 1 released and the open antisemitism we see today? We can't show Jewish people in a good light, not in these mentally deranged spaces filled with Pro-DEI folks. They consider Jewish people as "oppressors" exclusively.
Hawking Radiation
Member
The one and only press sneak fuck with aspirations of being a cuck.
Crawl back into your hole Jason.
Crawl back into your hole Jason.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Diversity doesn’t mean forcing people to think what you think and live in your make-believe world and force certain language.
As soon as you expect actions from others, you’re out of line. Live and let live and shut up about who you wanna fuck. 5 year olds don’t need to hear about it.
As soon as you expect actions from others, you’re out of line. Live and let live and shut up about who you wanna fuck. 5 year olds don’t need to hear about it.
Cyberpunkd
Member
All the things he mentioned are valid problems. So is having a political agenda on the part of game developers (and you can make a case such agenda is more or less controversial depending where you live in the world).
ChuckeRearmed
Member
All this DEI is basically a way to inflate budgets.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Way to be the most reductive shill of all time once again JS - well done, enjoy your ERA 'freshly rimmed' glow.
BearNecessity
Banned
DEI is just capitalism, and Im pro capitalist.
When publishers see that pokemon or mobile dota game with a 30-50% female audience theyre salivating. Thats what they want. They dont actually care all that much about feminism.
When publishers see that pokemon or mobile dota game with a 30-50% female audience theyre salivating. Thats what they want. They dont actually care all that much about feminism.
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ZehDon
Member
I think Schreier is once again conflating the point. He's pointing out issues with the business of making games, whereas people are pointing out issues with the games those businesses are making. Those are two different points. Shitty practices in the video game industry have been around longer than I've been alive. When the dust settled, devs used to exit the endless development fever dreams with milestones like Kings Quest, Thief, Halo 2, Metal Gear Solid, Donkey Kong Country, and Red Alert to show for their blood, sweat, and tears. Art that was, arguably, worth it. Now, the practices are still mostly shit, but the devs are forced to pinch out soulless husks like Saints Row, Crackdown 3, Redfall, Anthem, TLOU Re-re-re-release, and Concord.
If nothing changes and the business practices are still pretty bad, but the quality of the games dropped noticeably, then what did change? Right or wrong, people are pointing to the DEI boogeyman.
If nothing changes and the business practices are still pretty bad, but the quality of the games dropped noticeably, then what did change? Right or wrong, people are pointing to the DEI boogeyman.
Tomeru
Member
I miss the days when rats and ponies complained the other companys' game being too grey and brown.
Exactly this.
Just finished invincible season 2. Very diverse, feels natural, not forced and is great.
Playing banishers: ghost of new Eden. CRAZY forced, disingenuous and kinda revisionist. It’s set in 16th century America, peak patriarchal society, highly religious and bigoted time….yet half the cast seem to be LGBT, 30% of all haunting cases so far are gay or lesbian couples, and the main character reveals herself to be bi. Boss women everywhere dissing male characters of stature (would in reality have likely got you beaten or killed back then), many women in positions of leadership, which just wouldn’t have happened. Nobody bats an eye at the two main characters interracial relationship.
Like, isolated, non of these things are an issue ofcourse. But all together, in a setting as they are means context matters. It kinda ignores the reality that the freedoms and equality these groups now enjoy needed to be hard fought for, RECENTLY. It was not like this back when this was set, suggesting it was is to rewrite history. We already have right wing twitter downplaying past bigotry, saying stuff like
“you know, I really don’t think slavery was all that bad, and was likely beneficial to them”
and other such nonsense. Having stories that go out of their way to communicate that everyone was basically gay back then anyhow, and women were bosses and held in esteem, and people were pretty okay with black people, really isn’t helping anybody, and feels incredibly preachy and disengenous.
All that aside it’s a pretty good game, and really very impressive what they have built as an AA title.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Exclusivity isn't Diversity. Its Exclusivity.
But they will figure that out one day.
One day. But not soon. There are soooo many people who haven't yet figured out that equity is not the same as equality...
DEAD ORIGINAL
Member
That gay mission on Spider-Man 2 was cringe and boring even if they were straight it would be cringe and boring, we never saw them before or after so why we're we meant to care I tried throwing a barrel at them when they kissed but sadly they don't get hurt.
PeteBull
Member
And male asians, as proven by new Assasins Creed.
PeteBull
Member
Thats why we gotta hit them where it hurts, in their wallets, so far we doing great job, gotta keep going and we will have more games like stellar blade, and not saints row reboot
HerjansEagleFeeder
Gold Member
DEI is funded and incentivised by ESG, which would be categorized as textbook Socialism if it came from a public entity directly. Supply and demand have absolutely nothing to do with this.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Well, the problem isn't even DEI stuff in itself, if everyone got what they wanted and no old IPs get changed to favor these new policies, almost nobody would be complaining, we have a very inclusive media industry since forever from Japan, and everyone is happy with their content because there's always something for someone, but these western studios are giving it all to the DEI worshippers and we miss those other things and elements in media a lot because everyone is focused on something else and drastically changing what we already liked in order to appeal to them, they seem to not be inclusive at all, seeing it from that angle
FewRope
Member
It's okay to be a cuck I guess
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Fake
Member
Of course Jason will say is not a problem. He defend the cause. He is a 'ex-Kotaku'.
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BlackTron
Member
I feel like this big crusade is to force people to consume what they are told so that will not happen. It's an attempt to train the masses to accept this as normal as the stuff they bought yesterday and keep doing it. That's why the reviewers and journalists are all loyal or else. Anyone who attempts to have an original thought pointing out the obvious is vilified.
tmlDan
Member
They seem to completely ignore those groups, lets not even get into ethnic, cultural and religious groups inside those regions. When have they included the multiple cultural groups in europe as well? the Baltics, hungarians, finnish, swedish, Portuguese, italian, turkish etc. All these people live in America as well.
All completely ignored in the DEI buckets albeit them also being minorities, oh sorry, they only see visible minorities cause they are the real racists
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No way that's the reason. Because Insomniac games are scoring well with the media and the gamers. And their games are selling great! By every metric you can think of, Insomniac games are doing great. It's not due to Blackrock.
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Slimboy Fat
Member
I don't like when the characters look transgender or when fantasy medieval Europe has the racial demographics and social code of a 2020s American university student body or when revanchist feminists write the script for my quintuple-A cinematic narrative 90$ "experience" that took 7 years to develop.
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AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
It isn't how much DEI groups are compensated.....at least I don't think that is the issue, It has to do with how much influence they have over the narrative and try to ham fist their personal politics into games.
A truly diverse game would have all kinds of viewpoints. I think Mass Effect is a great example as it has people with all sorts of viewpoints, even racists and mass murderers, but they put all that aside to work together.
A truly diverse game would have all kinds of viewpoints. I think Mass Effect is a great example as it has people with all sorts of viewpoints, even racists and mass murderers, but they put all that aside to work together.
Quantum253
Gold Member
She wants someone to come and physically fight for having a differing opinion! What could go wrong!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sounds fascist.
Quantum253
Gold Member
You have to feel really comfortable to make a statement like that to the world. Sean Strickland can probably do something like that, but If someone takes her up on that offer it will turn into a big issue and become a victim of her own making.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Almost like she is afforded all that comfort and privilege and not a "victim."
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
On point
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Christ she's so fucking hideous. Smug cunts are the absolute worst.
Im assuming she's gotten plenty of offers to get her ass kicked, but she's just either ignored or blocked them. Or contacted their wives.
Im assuming she's gotten plenty of offers to get her ass kicked, but she's just either ignored or blocked them. Or contacted their wives.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Or played the victim saying she is getting "threads online."
Gambit2483
Member
And of course will play the role of the victim if anyone actually takes her up on her asinine invitation. They win either way.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Schrödinger’s Feminist
A woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered, until something happens. Then she chooses which state benefits her the most…
Quantum253
Gold Member
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Bkdk
Member
No there isn't diversity in the western designs, where are girls like eve or lily or juliet starling in the western AAA games, in games design by shift up, they really got girls of all types and all skine colors and skin tones, from ugliest to hottest, check out how truly diverse from their nikke game. vs. the western AAA ones.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"Diverse" just means certain collectivism checkbox demographics. Like the good bigots they are.
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