ResilientBanana
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put two and two together man, you can do it, I believe in you.
Study Shows PlayStation Gamers Make the Most Money Out of All Console Players as Adults
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Felessan
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I will be short - Math is really not your thing.The 1k people in this thread link are not a statistical representation. They are a small group. The point still stands. 1001 people, statistically do not represent me or the rest of the billions ofpeoplegamers. They only represent themselves in that group. Hence why its hardly accurate, and more of a focused group, for clickbait crap. I do however appreciate that at least one person here brought a fair counter argument to my point instead of the childish crapHeisenbergFX4 does.
You just vastly underestimate the speed of convergence. It's simply beyond the scope of your understanding.
Just for you to understand, even the most rigid statistical tests that requires very high significance use small sample, like CPI use only 30k sample out of 130 mil households. And these 30k almost perfectly represents whole country (and CPI much more complex metric than income). So 1k for gaming for reasonable significance is a normal, representative, sample.
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Topher
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64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
Well Nvidia, you see the statistics. Start dropping prices if you want those 5000 series GPUs to sell
HeisenbergFX4
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The Cockatrice
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That made absolutely no sense to my point. No, 1k is not representative at all. You act like you're good at math but logic goes over your head. Statistics are accurate, correct, no one doubts that. How you use statistics is a whole other issue. In this particular case it has no relevance to the real world. I assumed you'd be smarter but I guess you're all just repeating the same words over and over. If I ask 1001 people if you're an idiot based on your posts and the majority agree, based on your "scope of understanding" they are an accurate representation of the whole, not just within them. And we both know, that aint true. If you ask 1001 asian people what they play on, statistically it'll be entirely different than asking 1001 americans what they play on, same as asking 1001 europeans. You cannot logically deduce that out of 1001 people from one state in the US is an accurate representation of the world, no matter what your "math" tells you. Carry on I guess.
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FoxMcChief
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Not in America. People here tend to fail upwards.
Topher
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FoxMcChief
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If not for him, you wouldn’t be able to pay $10 to play the remastered remaster of Horizon on a $8,000 PS5 Pro.
I'm trying but it doesn't make sense
"when you are in the majority of households, and come in at $500 - $700, this is an easy statement to make. I would also presume that they are in a majority more low income homes as well."
Pc is the lowest here and it's more expensive hardware.
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64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
5 out of 4 gamers? well, you're proving the fact true at leastFun fact: 5 out of 4 gamers don't understand statistics
RetroGamingUK
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Well unlike Xbox owners PlayStation owners actually BUY games, so there’s that I suppose.
chokotoureiki
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Remember Chad Warden from the PS3 days?
DrFigs
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I'm not really following your problem with this survey. They're pretty vague about their methodology. but we rely on surveys with less than 1,000 people for basic political polling all the time. and the stakes are way higher for that type of polling.
HeisenbergFX4
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He just doesn't understand surveys and got mad that I suggested he read up on them a bit
I think he got upset I said he was ignorant on the subject of which like I said I am ignorant on many things as well
I try to at least look into subjects after getting called out that I don't know something or don't understand something but some don't
DrFigs
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He seemed very confident. So I wasn't sure tbh
mitch1971
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Look at the little rapscallion begging for the PS exclusives.Meanwhile, on PC,
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lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
console gamers are the true gamer.
We dont complain about game price most of the time, unlike certain group of people who spend thousands on hardware, but goes apeshit when game is 70 dollars, and they also support piracy. Bunch of stingy people.
Masterrace my ass.
We dont complain about game price most of the time, unlike certain group of people who spend thousands on hardware, but goes apeshit when game is 70 dollars, and they also support piracy. Bunch of stingy people.
Masterrace my ass.
ResilientBanana
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Right, a majority of people play PlayStation, which is why the income is higher. Not sure what you are going on about.
DaciaJC
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I think you're getting hung up on the fact that the study did not assess the global population, which is a very valid point. This survey doesn't tell us anything outside of the US, and you cannot use its results to extrapolate to the populations of other countries.
But more generally, a sample size of 1000 is in fact often sufficiently powered to detect statistically significant differences if it represents a truly randomized group from the population being studied.
The Cockatrice
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Im not hung up on that at all. Its the ppl who are replying to me who act as if this represents the entire gaming community. It does not.
Barakov
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Survey methodology seems in fact very weak and not detailed. Looks more like a company which creates such papers as marketing instrument. This “study” seems not even flashed out enough to enter a low grade magazine.
Has anyone found a link to the actual study paper? Just found the prodigy summary page.
About the general “1000 isn’t enough” thingy. Even 100 can be enough, depending on your study goals. In this case the election method isn’t detailed. So I think the 1001 are meaningless and we can’t assume a representative election based on the spare information they provide.
Has anyone found a link to the actual study paper? Just found the prodigy summary page.
About the general “1000 isn’t enough” thingy. Even 100 can be enough, depending on your study goals. In this case the election method isn’t detailed. So I think the 1001 are meaningless and we can’t assume a representative election based on the spare information they provide.
RoadHazard
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Who said it's representative of the entire global gaming community? Nobody AFAIK, this is obviously a US study. You, on the other hand, have claimed multiple times that it ONLY represents the 1,001 people asked and nobody else. Which is incredibly wrong.
Do you not understand how averages work or something?
I never said that, and I don't recall anyone who called you out doing so. Also, for all I know, this survey could be inaccurate, as their methodology could be wrong. The issue is you were acting like having a sample size of 1000 inherently makes a survey inaccurate, which is false. That is all there is to it.
The Cockatrice
Banned
Then you cant read.
I said it a million times over this thread that the 1k ppl do not represent the entire population, thats my main post, and in all my replies here. Facts are in writting, now u guys are changing the narrative. Im talking with children, smh.
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RoadHazard
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SweetTooth
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Playstation gamers keeps winning in life and life choices!!
The Cockatrice
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Oh wait i misread your post. I thought you were agreeing with me over the fact that those 1k ppl do not represnt the rest of the world but you still think they do. My bad about that, guess youre still an idiot.
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Shifty1897
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"Help us solve anime racism, Topher-san!"Suddenly gamers remind me of this Metaphor game I'm playing
Bumblebeetuna
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Who knew that the casuals GAF talks down on, the people who buy yearly sports rehash and play Candy Crush, are the wealthiest 
Gamerfan81
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
What a ridiculous study. Many of the most popular PC games can be played on a ghetto PC from 10 years ago. The top 3 games on Steam are Counterstrike 2, PUBG, and DotA 2, all of which can run on a potato.
If instead they studied, say, the average income of Elden Ring players or Cyberpunk 2077 players or whatever, they would probably come to the exact opposite conclusion.
If instead they studied, say, the average income of Elden Ring players or Cyberpunk 2077 players or whatever, they would probably come to the exact opposite conclusion.
cash_longfellow
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My paycheck determined…
The Fartist
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"Seve-hunnid dollah ain't shit to Cheh Woah"Remember Chad Warden from the PS3 days?
ResilientBanana
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Who are you arguing with?
reinking
Gold Member
Okay. I have held off but I am buying that game today. Do I buy it on P5Suddenly gamers remind me of this Metaphor game I'm playing
or PC 
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
PC just to be able to force AA/super resolution.Okay. I have held off but I am buying that game today. Do I buy it on P5
Topher
Identifies as young
Okay. I have held off but I am buying that game today. Do I buy it on P5
I'm playing on PS5 for the trophies, but PC is probably looks better.
Proteus Maximus
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I've also got the 1tb OLED Steam Deck (etched glass model) as well as all the above. Anything less would be peasantry!Me with all 3 consoles and a gaming pc.
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