BG3 or Witcher 3?

Which is the better game?

  • Baldurs Gate 3

    Votes: 140 37.0%
  • Witcher 3

    Votes: 238 63.0%

  • Total voters
    378
OK I will ask you the question again, very very simply: why does Kagha specifically hate refugees more than the other druids?
Kagha is next in line to lead the druids.

Kagha's hostility toward the refugees isn't just about prejudice, its created by her unique personal history and her relationship with a shadowy organization

Her rigid stance represents a conflict within herself. Loyalty to Halsin and his teachings versus her new allegiance to the Shadow Druids. This tension shapes Kagha's distrust and cruelty toward the refugees, pushing her to see them as "outsiders" who disrupt the grove's order rather than people in need of help

She's also struggling with her own insecurities about her position. Halsin, a kinder and more accepting leader, has a lot of support among the druids, so Kagha feels the need to assert herself

The writing here is far from bad or lazy. it's about Kagha wrestling with identity, power, and ideology, and the player can sway her based on what they uncover about her Shadow Druid connection.

It's wild to call Kagha's storyline "bad writing" just because you didn't catch the layers there. She isn't just "anti-refugee" out of some shallow villainy, she's under the influence of the Shadow Druids, a group that believes nature should overpower humanity

Maybe next time spend a bit more time exploring the characters before making sweeping claims about the writing
 
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Kagha is next in line to lead the druids.

Kagha's hostility toward the refugees isn't just about prejudice, its created by her unique personal history and her relationship with a shadowy organization

Her rigid stance represents a conflict within herself. Loyalty to Halsin and his teachings versus her new allegiance to the Shadow Druids. This tension shapes Kagha's distrust and cruelty toward the refugees, pushing her to see them as "outsiders" who disrupt the grove's order rather than people in need of help

She's also struggling with her own insecurities about her position. Halsin, a kinder and more accepting leader, has a lot of support among the druids, so Kagha feels the need to assert herself

The writing here is far from bad or lazy. it's about Kagha wrestling with identity, power, and ideology, and the player can sway her based on what they uncover about her Shadow Druid connection.

It's wild to call Kagha's storyline "bad writing" just because you didn't catch the layers there. She isn't just "anti-refugee" out of some shallow villainy, she's under the influence of the Shadow Druids, a group that believes nature should overpower humanity

Maybe next time spend a bit more time exploring the characters before making sweeping claims about the writing
Lol I'm sorry you think "I'm feeling insecure about leading the grove so that makes me want to genocide a bunch of refugees and align with a secret shadowy organization hated by all of my colleagues" is good writing?
 
Lol I'm sorry you think "I'm feeling insecure about leading the grove so that makes me want to genocide a bunch of refugees and align with a secret shadowy organization hated by all of my colleagues" is good writing?

She doesn't 'align with a secret shadowy organization'. She's under the influence of the Shadow Druids.

She's not an insecure leader trying to bully refugees, she's a character caught between two conflicting worldviews and she's been systematically pushed by the Shadow Druids to see harshness as strength

The game is challenging you to think about Kaghas motivations and ask yourself if you'll condemn her or offer her a chance to redeem herself.

And yes. I think it's good writing.

Do you have more one-liners?

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I see your point but BG3 is a video game adaptation of a tabletop RPG. Any choices you make you'll make you"miss" stuff, being good or bad you'll get you stuff and "lock" you out of others.
I personally don't see it as "missing" stuff but rather consequences of my choices. I really like this approach and wish more game allow players to "miss" stuff because of their choices and in general put more restriction to the players (for example I find personalization in BG3 way too permissive).
I find it a weird thing to say about BG3 or any "true" RPG. RPG is about choice and consequences (and so not seeing the consequences of paths you didn't choose). It's like playing a tabletop RPG and complains you don't see the unfolding of choice you didn't make.

It's because it's imbalanced. The game wants you to play the "good" way. That's where all the rewards are, with little to no downsides. The same can't be said for the other way around.
 
It's because it's imbalanced. The game wants you to play the "good" way. That's where all the rewards are, with little to no downsides. The same can't be said for the other way around.
Right, and that's part of the problem: there's always a "good" and an "evil" way to resolve any given situation. TW3 is so compelling precisely because things are rarely that clear cut, and sometimes you can try to do good and wind up doing evil.
 
Kagha is next in line to lead the druids.

Kagha's hostility toward the refugees isn't just about prejudice, its created by her unique personal history and her relationship with a shadowy organization

Her rigid stance represents a conflict within herself. Loyalty to Halsin and his teachings versus her new allegiance to the Shadow Druids. This tension shapes Kagha's distrust and cruelty toward the refugees, pushing her to see them as "outsiders" who disrupt the grove's order rather than people in need of help

She's also struggling with her own insecurities about her position. Halsin, a kinder and more accepting leader, has a lot of support among the druids, so Kagha feels the need to assert herself

The writing here is far from bad or lazy. it's about Kagha wrestling with identity, power, and ideology, and the player can sway her based on what they uncover about her Shadow Druid connection.

It's wild to call Kagha's storyline "bad writing" just because you didn't catch the layers there. She isn't just "anti-refugee" out of some shallow villainy, she's under the influence of the Shadow Druids, a group that believes nature should overpower humanity

Maybe next time spend a bit more time exploring the characters before making sweeping claims about the writing
All this doesn't matter if its not delivered in an engaging way.

All games have backstories. Very few games inspire me to pursue them.

An example: Dragon Age Origins. So interesting lore i used to search cup boards for books to read.
 
All this doesn't matter if its not delivered in an engaging way.

All games have backstories. Very few games inspire me to pursue them.

An example: Dragon Age Origins. So interesting lore i used to search cup boards for books to read.
Baldurs Gate 3 takes a more interactive approach to storytelling. The lore isn't just handed to you. You have to search for clues, engage in dialogue, and piece things together

The complexity of BG3's branching narrative makes the backstory feel alive and responsive, and that's why it's so engaging imo

It's not about reading a book, it's about experiencing the world Larian created

Baldur's Gate 3 is engaging because it doesn't just tell a story, it lets you live it.
 
Baldurs Gate 3 takes a more interactive approach to storytelling. The lore isn't just handed to you. You have to search for clues, engage in dialogue, and piece things together

The complexity of BG3's branching narrative makes the backstory feel alive and responsive, and that's why it's so engaging imo

It's not about reading a book, it's about experiencing the world Larian created

Baldur's Gate 3 is engaging because it doesn't just tell a story, it lets you live it.
Other games wish you put this much effort in justifying their shortcomings.
 
This is like justifying that Witcher 3 has good combat.

It has evade button. Two attack buttons. Build options. Better combat than Devil May Cry !!!!!!
Stop embarrassing yourself and play some good games

Study the definition of 'engagement' while you're at it because right now, it's clear you don't even know what it means when it comes to storytelling and player interaction

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