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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth PC |OT| The Definitive Edition
Go_Ly_Dow
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So... why do you all hate Gongaga? It was the best map for me, at least I had to engage my brain when exploring. A bit of environmental puzzles to change things up was needed. In general I like this kind of map design (if you played Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns you know what I'm talking about). Also, it's beautiful.
Gongaga enjoyers, where are you?
Gongaga lover here. I enjoyed the difficult navigation lol.
Felt true to the location.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
Gongaga...cool music beautiful environments. A bit frustrating and maze like to 100% but then you find the way and you're golden
Gonzito
Gold Member
The map is definitely beautiful and its actually interesting because in the latest chapters, the graphics get a bit of un a upgrade compared to the first chapters. Corel looks really good, Gongaga looks fantastic, and Cosmo Canyon looks so so good, in fact, the bad texturing issue kinda dissapear and you barely see them anymore.
Its definitely interesting and makes you wonder about this games development, it's like at some point they became more efficient making the graphics
Its definitely interesting and makes you wonder about this games development, it's like at some point they became more efficient making the graphics
mèx
Member
People are discovering ways to improve the shadow resolution (picture courtesy of burgerdog from ResetEra).
This seems to have a big impact on performance, values should be tweaked based on your GPU (those values are ok for a 4080/4090).
Code:
r.Shadow.MaxResolution=8192 ;Default 2048
r.Shadow.MinResolution=8192 ;Default 64
r.Shadow.MaxCSMResolution=8192 ;Default 2048
r.Shadow.WholeSceneShadowCacheMb=2900 ;Default 150This seems to have a big impact on performance, values should be tweaked based on your GPU (those values are ok for a 4080/4090).
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Gonzito
Gold Member
Lethal01
Banned
you mean a single time? maybe twice.
Lethal01
Banned
Does anyone know why the hair looks like complete ass in Rebirth vs. Remake? Is it because of DLSS and the game not being at native res?
These are at 4K max, DLSS, Dynamic Res max 100%, Dynamic Res min 66%, cutscene and gameplay:
This is Remake, also 4K max:
I noticed there was a ton of dithering on the ocean while playing, it was fixed when i switched of DLSS to TAAU that may work for the hair as well.
Were you using the DLSS4 mod?
Alex11
Member
Yeah, TAAU is much better, unless you can do native 4K, that's the best.
No mod, nothing, just those settings and as I said above I changed the max framerate from 120 to 60 and it's less grainy.
I was used to how normally DLSS functions, you know, set it to quality and it remains the same regardless of fps.
Here I think if I have dynamic res max to 100%, max framerate to 60 and I also get constant 60 fps it remains at full resolution or maybe fluctuates between 100% and 66% instead of staying at 66% all the time because it fails to reach that 120 fps that I had previously set, something like that, Jesus, I don't know if anything I wrote makes any sense.
For me it's better than TAAU now, still weird, DLSS quality should look the best.
Celcius
°Temp. member
The Gongaga mini game where you have to get the chickens home by pulling the can/container by a string at the last second was so bad I can't believe they thought it up lol
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Bojji
Gold Member
Holy fuck, you reminded me of this bullshit, lol.
Most mini games and side quest in this game are shit, quantity over quality.
Alex11
Member
I just did both of these right now, fucking hell, the chickens too, at the last chicken, I said "really", I thought I'm gonna have slowly go with that fucking chicken all the way back to town, I was ready to rage quit
Some side quests are really nice, don't understand why they couldn't focus more on that, not every mini game from OG needed to be here as well.
Revolutionary
Member
Finished up Gongaga 100% and while it wasn't as bad as I remember (probably due to no longer being stuck at 30fps), there are many aspects that still firmly place it as the worst map in the game. Repetitive music (especially if you don't activate towers), annoying mushroom jumping and vine sliding navigation, and of course the worst part: it's more Crisis Core garbage seeping its way into the story.
I love me some redheads but Cissnei just reminds me of that godawful piece of shit game.
I will admit that Gongaga looks beautiful, though... especially on PC.
I love me some redheads but Cissnei just reminds me of that godawful piece of shit game.
I will admit that Gongaga looks beautiful, though... especially on PC.
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About 30 hours in now. I'm on chapter 7, see it looks like I'm about halfway through. Pretty much all of my problems still apply.
- I think I'm ready to just declare the combat bad. It's a mix of real time and turn-based that fails to excel at either. They would have been better off picking one direction and doing it really well rather than making some kind of hybrid.
- The voice acting is so much better than Remake. I don't know what happened, but it's a lot less cringe while leaning into the campiness where appropriate.
- The side quests are on another fucking level compared to Remake. There's actual writing and variety this time, which is great.
- Most of the mini games should have been cut. I've found myself either using guides or cheats just to get past them once they got boring, which was usually within a few seconds of starting them.
- The card game is fun when you actually get good cards. I wish it was more prevalent in the game.
- I was wrong about the open-world content. It's actually worse than Ubisoft. I played through Assassin's Creed Syndicate late last year and that had a dramatically better world than this.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I have it fully downloaded on Steamdeck but I'm waiting on playing the game till it's fully patched
Nickolaidas
Banned
I read somewhere that modders don't know how to do proper edits on the models in this game yet, which explains why so far all we get is recolors and taking off a couple of clothing from the vanilla models.
mèx
Member
Didn't know we had a member of the Italian parliament in disguise on GAF.
Well, there is this one. Currently and unsurprisingly it is one of the most downloaded mods.
Kumomeme
Member
Gonzito
Gold Member
Cap the framerate at higher than you can achieve, or preferably mod it to remove it entirely. Disable vsync (choose the vrr option), then cap the FPS and vsync in NVCP.
Mine is much much smoother after doing that. I was getting mild frame time spikes spinning the camera with the default in-game FPS and vsync. With system controlled version it's now a flat line all the time.
Donald mac Ronald
Member
How. You edging yourself?I am preparing myself for the day
Nickolaidas
Banned
Holy shit, I couldn't believe what a difference VRR made, it was like 90% of stutter fucked off in a jipee.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Vsync should be avoided the maximum possible, especially in-game vsync options.
Nickolaidas
Banned
I think it depends on whether you have a monitor or a TV. Telling my nvidia to have its own vsync On helped me a lot with my LG TV.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Try the "fast" option on Nvidia control panel before full vsync.
Aye. That's the one I use. Coupled with the Ultra setting in the Latency option. The description indicates it's as close to vsync as possible without the tearing. I've a gsync so I'm not sure how true the tearing bit is.
Alex11
Member
Gotta say, Yuffie is fucking annoying, if she says "materia" one more time I'm gonna fucking lose it. I get it game, she likes materia, let it go.
For me, almost every scene she's in it's like she doesn't belong there, like a cartoon character or a parody, I get she's supposed to be the comic relief, but it feels too much or wrong.
I liked the music in Gongaga, it was so unique, a different vibe from all the other areas, how it looks, not so much, it was a bit too samey everywhere you go.
Cosmo Canyon is gorgeous, I like it till after you talk to that old fart, after that, when you take control of Red, I feel the game is taking a weird turn with the Gi stuff, for me it sort of breaks the pace of the story, I feel like it would wave been a good companion side quest.
In fact, there a few of the main quests that would wave been better as companion side quests.
For me, almost every scene she's in it's like she doesn't belong there, like a cartoon character or a parody, I get she's supposed to be the comic relief, but it feels too much or wrong.
I liked the music in Gongaga, it was so unique, a different vibe from all the other areas, how it looks, not so much, it was a bit too samey everywhere you go.
Cosmo Canyon is gorgeous, I like it till after you talk to that old fart, after that, when you take control of Red, I feel the game is taking a weird turn with the Gi stuff, for me it sort of breaks the pace of the story, I feel like it would wave been a good companion side quest.
In fact, there a few of the main quests that would wave been better as companion side quests.
asdasdasdbb
Member
If you played the OG, you would understand why that's there, haha.
If they do Wutai in Part 3, that whole sequence will probably be overhauled a bit.
Alex11
Member
Yeah, probably, I said it a few times that I didn't play the OG and I know about the story more as a big picture, not all the small details.
I'm just saying how it feels to me as how it's presented here, like a new game, without nostalgia.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Just started this. I expected to be wowed more with the graphics...still really looking forward to diving in but I just expected a little more.
mèx
Member
It's an open world game made with a heavily customized version of UE4 held together by duct tape. If you start to look at the details it breaks apart. Lighting, shadows, textures... there is always something looking wonky. Some things are getting fixed by modders, but there are some fundamental issues with the techniques employed by the devs here. I wonder if they will switch to UE5 for part 3.
Still, the general image looks nice, in big part due to the art direction. All environments and towns are modeled with care and the main character models are really good.
Alex11
Member
After 90 hrs, the open world stuff+mini games finally got to me in Cosmo Canyon.
I'm sorry, but when a mini game inside a side quest so late in the game has multiple tutorials, yeah, that's a no no for me.
I get it, content and all that, but don't put that mini game inside a side quest that has an interesting story.
I don't even want to use guides to say finish with the mini game quickly, I'm finding hard to even finish the story now, it has become so tiresome and I really like the combat and music in this game and can't believe I'm feeling this way.
I'm sorry, but when a mini game inside a side quest so late in the game has multiple tutorials, yeah, that's a no no for me.
I get it, content and all that, but don't put that mini game inside a side quest that has an interesting story.
I don't even want to use guides to say finish with the mini game quickly, I'm finding hard to even finish the story now, it has become so tiresome and I really like the combat and music in this game and can't believe I'm feeling this way.
asdasdasdbb
Member
NuclearDiarrhea
Member
Seen a lot of people online saying that they dropped the game once they got to Cosmo Canyon due to open world burnout, which is a shame, but understandable, and yeah, having that minigame in such an important side quest is stupid as fuck.
The game would benefit greatly if there was some sort "critical-path" mode which would just have the main quests and green side quests available and disable all of Chadley's stupid activities except the summons. They could have items and materia that you would normally get from Chadley's open world activities be distributed as rewards for completing the side quests instead. It would make for a shorter but better paced game.
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asdasdasdbb
Member
If you kinda feel that way you should just stick to the main story.
Alex11
Member
It is a shame, but you know it's weird as the burnout doesn't come from combat or story stuff, it's all the little annoying things which become big if they force it upon you if you wanna do that side quest.
It is a really nice quest and what mini game to put there, that Gambit whatever, Jesus, I fail even on easy, lol, I mean, I think it had like 5-6 tutorials, lol, what? With individual and multiple commands to those robots, at what point too much is too much?
Exactly, it's so good when you're exploring and stumble upon something on your own, then fucking Chadley calls to say "nice work, bye", man, shut the fuck up.
xenosys
Member
The FOV mod designed by Lyall really is superb.
The ability to extend the camera right out either in battle or when you're exploring really helps with the experience. Instead of having a 1-3 option, you can extend it out to 10 if you want.
If a modder can do this in a week, then Square Enix not offering this level of customization for players is baffling.
The ability to extend the camera right out either in battle or when you're exploring really helps with the experience. Instead of having a 1-3 option, you can extend it out to 10 if you want.
If a modder can do this in a week, then Square Enix not offering this level of customization for players is baffling.
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Mister Wolf
Member
I was just thinking about this today. My only "PC" is my steam deck, and I don't have a PS5. I actually already bought Rebirth, but I just can't bring myself to start it. It just dawned on me today how "special" of an experience I feel like FF7 Remake was, and I feel like I would be getting a "lesser" experience on the steam deck, without that movie type experience.
At the same time, I'm deathly afraid I'm going to have the game spoiled for me, so I almost feel like I'm in a bit of analysis-paralysis.
I can't justify buying a PS5, and CERTAINLY not a full blown gaming PC, but much as I love the steam deck, I just don't think it'll do justice to the game.
Anyone happen to work at sony who wants to pull some strings and hook a brotha up with a PS5? (still crazy to me that Rebirth didn't get a special edition console).
At the same time, I'm deathly afraid I'm going to have the game spoiled for me, so I almost feel like I'm in a bit of analysis-paralysis.
I can't justify buying a PS5, and CERTAINLY not a full blown gaming PC, but much as I love the steam deck, I just don't think it'll do justice to the game.
Anyone happen to work at sony who wants to pull some strings and hook a brotha up with a PS5? (still crazy to me that Rebirth didn't get a special edition console).
Mister Wolf
Member
Buy a used PS5. Should be plenty on Ebay.
SkylineRKR
Member
I see side and minigame fatique kicks in here and there. You can ignore them, however, a lot of good stuff is behind them. But the game is doable without doing all those. Or check what rewards you would like, only to these.
And chadley takes away any kind of exploration. You're not really finding things by yourselves. This is an issue I hope isn't there in 3.
And chadley takes away any kind of exploration. You're not really finding things by yourselves. This is an issue I hope isn't there in 3.
Lucifers Beard
Member
Only started this a couple days ago immediately after wrapping up Remake (which I don't have strong feelings for). It's so far a lot better and even though I'm only on Chapter 1 still, from what I've played everything is better. Combat is more interesting, the story is well told and it looks awesome.
I'm definitely not interested in trying to 100% the game or see all of the content so I think I'll be OK when it comes to the open world stuff. I'm just going to do the things that seem interesting to me and probably mostly just press forward with the story.
I'm definitely not interested in trying to 100% the game or see all of the content so I think I'll be OK when it comes to the open world stuff. I'm just going to do the things that seem interesting to me and probably mostly just press forward with the story.
Alex11
Member
This is my gripe, story stuff behind minigames, that isn't good game design.
Also the mini games, for example, the card game, I have a deck unmodified since before half way, I just restart and RNG does its thing.
The same is this last one, Gambits, sometimes I can't win on easy, others win on hard, just a matter of luck and it has these systems and subsystems with a bunch of tutorials, seems to much, they should be more fun and a little less trial and error.
I agree that the game is doable with just the story, but all these things still make up the whole game, content is content.
It may seem like a lot of bitching on my part, but it's just because I like the game as a whole, the combat is very good, addictive, fun and the music, it's just amazing.
It's a positive critique, if the 3rd solves these things, for me it would truly be a masterpiece.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
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extended versions of catchy fun music
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